It worked! It worked! Put this on your car!

[Tsiyu]

I have avoided playing the anti-choice wild card. You know, how they blow up photos of aborted fetuses to gigunda proportions and force people to see them?

I thought it might seem tacky to display any pictures of Iraqi war dead during the campaign. But the campaign's over. And dead babies need to be forced down every Repukes throat right now.

So I put up three graphic, tragic pictures of mutilated Iraqi children, along with the signs "JESUS WEEPS-100,000+ DEAD" and "WHILE REPUBLICANS GLOAT OVER SPOILS OF WAR" complete with bloody hand dripping red on my rear car window.

I also put one on the side window: "WANT MORALITY? OUTLAW DIVORCE!"

Well, NOBODY tailgated me! Isn't that amazing? Even on heavy city streets, two lanes held WAAAAAAY back behind me. If someone got caught behind me at a red light, they looked like they'd rather be anywhere else.

ANd the best part? Pulling into Wally World Mega Strip Center ( daughter's eye appointment) a woman behind me was acting strange. She ended up driving like a psycho, cutting over another parking lane( kids all over the lot) only to cut diagonally in front of me and race into the parking spot I was aiming for.


Aha! Her blood red car bore a b/c and a '"Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you" God' bumper sticker she REALLY wanted me to see! Even if she killed someone to do it!

I ended up parking right at the Wally world entrance where many people saw and several came right up close to look at the pictures.


Show them the truth, People. They don't get to trademark Jesus.

Plus, no one will dare tailgate!

[Ducks In A Row]

1. take a picture, I want to seeeeeeeeeeee

[Tsiyu]

9. Alas, Duckie, no digital camera

plus anonymity be a good thing.

[signmike]

18. Hide your car

when it gets dark tonight, BHG - those are vindictive people.

[Tsiyu]

21. I live in the deep, dark woods. Honey, they'd be crazy to come out here

Plus my weirdo dog has taken to sleeping on the car. Come on down!

[leesa]

58. I'm sorry. You are more worried about your precious car than democracy?

A true materialistic, 'doesn't get it at all' American.

[Tsiyu]

67. I gave my vehicles up to animals years ago

A draft horse scratching his butt on the mirror til it falls off, pawprints all over the car, Hay and spilled grain in the trunk.

Some day I'll get me a gay-roj

[tsuki]

2. Where do I get one?

[Tsiyu]

10. make your own!

I printed some pics I found on DU, and just did Word documents for the others, then used double-sided tape to attach inside the window.:)

[tsuki]

17. Got it. Thanks.

[benddem]

3. way to go!

the funny thing is that nothing I ever learned about jesus led me to believe he'd want "I Love Jesus" or "real men love Jesus" bumper stickers.

[Tsiyu]

11. I hear you.

Next? Jesus was a girlie man!

[kiki]

110. I'm an atheist, but...

Not to denigrate your brothers south of the border, but that huge statue of Jesus in Rio... I can't help thinking that, if he ever saw it, he'd kick it until it fell down...

[Misunderestimator]

4. Good for you! Show them reality.

[Tsiyu]

12. They DO not like it!

Lots of hard looks, lots of people in denial. One old lady did a double take and came back to just stare at the picure of one baby.

[Baja Margie]

5. Outasight

[Tsiyu]

13. Thanks Baja M

:)

[seabeyond]

6. and keep telling us the stories. n/t

[Tsiyu]

14. The local cop is always amused at my car, I think.

He never follows me unless I've redecorated the car. He followed me through town today.

But my town is pretty good about letting people have their own opinions, and the county went for Kerry, so.....

[seabeyond]

26. not fair. so i pull into store today, next to a car with kerry stickers

this is so unusual. re defeat bush, a couple kerry stickers. i see it is a accord, i really want to wait by the car, but i head into hte store. i see a woman, standing tall walking proud and fast, i point to her and say, do you have an accord. yes she say.

i was floored, just floored. can see a dem from a mile away, amongst a crowd of people. so i had a fun little chat with her

[Tsiyu]

51. Cool that she still keeps the stickers on

My son was so depressed he made me take them off. And with the war dead pics , it's probably best to keep this a separate issue.

But I see a few, and yard signs still up (K/E) and give the thumbs up every time! One guy had a "BUSH MUST GO" sticker next to his Kerry. Makes your day, doesn't it?

[fasttense]

121. I LIVE IN THE HEART OF EAST TENNESSEE AND I LEFT MY

Kerry bumper stickers on. What are they going to do? Arrest me? No one has said anything. Even all the people who use to talk to me at church are avoiding me.

[Sydnie]

7. Can you share the pics you used?

I am so in need of something like this myself! I want to get the message out everywhere I go just how pissed I am that they are doing all of this "in my name".

[Tsiyu]

15. I will try to get my daughter to add them here

she knows how to do it. I'm a computer spazz.

One is "The Littlest Terrorist"

or try
http://www.einswine.com/atrocities/iraq/?pic=166

[seaj11]

37. Thanks for the suggestion! n/t

[Tsiyu]

52. You're welcome! n/t

[Ladyhawk]

44. That turned my stomach...ouch. :(

:cry:

[Tsiyu]

53. I know. It really hurts

and I can't keep the hurt to myself any more.

Powerful stuff.

Sorry if you're hurting, too :hug:

[Ladyhawk]

56. I want to make the reich-wingers I know LOOK at the pictures nt

[kittenpants]

70. that gallery should be required viewing for bush voters

is that what "family values" looks like? are those the "morals" they voted for!! I'm glad you're making them look.

[ReadTomPaine]

81. They would just laugh, open a lawn chair and start eating popcorn.

[JNelson6563]

85. *sob*

Powerful.

[Pachamama]

114. I couldn't look at them all...it turns my stomach...my heart is aching....

And to think that the bloodbath just continues...for what?

:cry:

[AllyCat]

8. Nice!!!

Can you post a photo? I'd love to see that. I'm considering something similar, but haven't figured out what to do yet. How big is it?

If you post a photo, make sure your LP is covered.

Before the election, I had a B/C, praying Calvin, Christian Fish-festooned car come up behind me at a light. They pulled around me (light still red) into a crosswalk, cutting off a pedestrian, and the woman and her two kids not a day older than 10 yelled obscenities at me out the windows and gave me the one-fingered salute.

These people are not Christian. We aren't going to hurt those who are by calling it like it is.

[Tsiyu]

19. You got it, Ally Cat

One little kid was glaring at first, but kids are smart. I just smiled like I would any kid and he smiled back. A sweet, sad smile.


The words I did in like 72 pt all caps, boldface. Fold to shape after printing as Landscape. Pictures around 5 by 7 so as not to obstruct, but I'm gonna make them bigger. I put:


PICTURE/JESUS WEEPS.../PICTURE/WHILE REPUKES.../PICTURE

and I drew the hand and used red colored pencil for blood. ( I was pretty steamed this morning).



You can come up with your own ideas. DUers are smart. Don't let them get away with this "we are morally superior" bullshit.

[Deja Q]

16. Yeah, but they'll try to cut in front of you and then use the pics as

means to avoid their reckless behavior by saying they're distracting.

[Tsiyu]

20. Nothing much scares me anymore, I'm afraid

tasted death too many times.

I will only live once.

I've lived a great life when it didn't suck.

I'm going to say what I have to say.

They can choose not to look.

[NorthernSpy]

22. War Stops a Beating Heart v^v^v^v^v^\....................................

I also think that we should show up at antiabortion protests with big graphic posters of our own...

Nice work, man!

[Tsiyu]

24. That's beautiful!

and thank you :cheers:


I agree about the protests

[AwakeAtLast]

62. So does capital punishment

Nobody around me who claims to be pro-life gets that!

[Mad_Dem_X]

123. Good idea - also "War Kills Children"

To counter their "Abortion Kills Children" signs.

[MagickMuffin]

23. I'm working up fliers

along the same line as what you are doing.

Although I thought plastering them on car windshields at churches on Sunday!

Isn't that the way the Rovians play the game?

[Tsiyu]

25. Hell....I mean....Heck yes!!!!

I was thinking that, too. My daughter suggests just setting up on a busy corner, like the pro-lifers do, with huge pictures we wave at passersby.

It's all well and good to say they support the war. They damned well better take a look at what they support. Don't you think?

[greenbriar]

27. OH snaps

thats a great IDEA...

Flyers to pass out at church like they did "voters guides"

[corker]

30. post flyer here

and i'll post them on some cars...(at church)

[Comadreja]

31. Mine is tame by comparison

I keep thinking of all the families with kids in Iraq. But then I think, if we don't "unsanitize" this bloody atrocity, who will? People are not moved by words anymore...it has to be a picture.

[Tsiyu]

34. That's a cool symbolic statement. I like it Axel!

I know what you mean. I hate to use someone else's death to promote a candidate. That's why I wouldn't do this prior to Black Tuesday. But to protest this unjust war? I think the families AND soldiers want the truth to be known.

[CornField]

54. I really like that graphic. May I use it?

[Comadreja]

59. It's at...

www.whodies.com, in full size jpg.

[MagickMuffin]

28. Hell yeah...I mean Darn tootin'

I did a search of pics. And it was and is hard for me because I have a very hard time looking at the mutilated bodies, but I know that this must be done to show these the sheeple what the consequences of war is all about. It's easy to be pro war when you aren't faced with the reality of those consquences....

I found some very disturbing pics. I plan on using about 4 to 6 per flier.

[Tsiyu]

40. Way to go, Muffin

You rock!

[Wols]

29. You are my fucking hero!

You rock dude!

[Tsiyu]

35. Thanks Wols! What a nice thing to say!

And I'm a girl, but I do have a boy's username so I get that a lot;)

[OnionPatch]

32. Bravo for You!!

I was thinking the other day what cowards these people are that they can vote for more war as long as they never have to see it or notice it. I was thinking I wished I had the address of every one of those evangelical Bush voters, I'd send them all some pictures of the evil they have sanctioned.

[Tsiyu]

38. Just do it, Onion Patch.

Teling the truth is such a release. Because I have seen the pictures of the Iraqis killed, and because 100,000+ and 1200 soldiers killed are too much a burden on my heart, I want others to understand.

People are so blind to the reality of this war. But the blood of it is on all of our hands....

Just work on one or two churches. The true Christians will be grieved. the phonies will laugh at you.

That's how you tell the sheep from the goats....

[OnionPatch]

61. Anyone have the mailing list?

n/t

[Roon]

33. Excellent!!

[Tsiyu]

41. Thanks Roon!

:cheers:

[Roon]

47. Wish I had a car...

or I would display the pictures myself. Hey, I live in a big city, perhaps a sandwhichboard of some sort while I wander up and down the outside mall? I wanted to freeway blog so bad before the election but was unable to, this would even be better.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

36. Wow! Good job! You are a brave soul.....

n/t

[Tsiyu]

42. Nah. Just a troubled soul

who can't bear to think of the suffering my leaders are causing.

yesterday i did something so stupid. i burned my hand on the Coleman Lantern. And it hurt so damned bad in that one little spot, i started thinking about the babies burned all over their bodies, and I can't understand Repukes who say "bring it on."

[The FBI Monkey]

39. *applaudes*

wow, If I had a car I would do that! I pinned a sign on my backpack saying "Im in mourning for my country" after Bush won and I got odd looks too :-P

[Tsiyu]

43. Good for you, FBI Monkey

Do whatever you can, wherever you can.

:toast:

45. EVANGELICALS HAVE THE SAME DIVORCE RATE AS GENERAL POP!

They are full of HOLY CRAP

Protest in front of their churches!

[Tsiyu]

48. Yeah, the looks I don't get when they see

the OUTLAW DIVORCE! sticker are priceless. They jerk their heads around real quick. The south has the highest rate in the world ( To quote Tom Waits, I've been married so many times I've got rice marks on my forehead. That's the truth.)

I think a mass protest over the divorce rate, and what divorce does to children would blow their minds. And you can quote their Lord directly on that issue. Jesus never said anything about homosexuality OR abortion.

[Cattledog]

82. Actually it is higher!

A recent study found that the highest divorce rates in the country are in the "Bible Belt" the lowest are in the North East.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/10/31/walking_the_walk_on_family_values/

[Roland99]

104. And Atheists had a lower rate of divorce than did Christians.

[G_j]

46. good work

nothing like a bit of reality. I applaud you!
:toast:

[Tsiyu]

49. Thanks G_j!!!!

Sweet words.

Nothing beats ignorance like a reality check....

Have a great night :beer:

[G_j]

84. Mark Twain's "The War Prayer"

has come to mind once again..

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/making/warprayer.html

[CornField]

50. I have this odd feeling I'd be arrested in Iowa for that

I was walking downtown one night with two signs -- on my way home from a Women for Peace rally. One sign read "My brother died in Vietnam. Where was Bush?" the other had a coffin and read "Who dies for Bush's lies?" I watched as two patrol cars drove by very slowly. Hell, I waved and smiled at them because I thought they might be wondering if I had car trouble or something. When they came around the third time, they stopped and got out of the car to quiz me about my signs.

If those two signs put their under-roos in a twist, I can't imagine what photos of dead Iraqi children would do to them. (or, more to the point, what they'd do to me)

[Tsiyu]

55. The key may have been "Bush" in the sign

All these law enforcement folks have had their disaster/riot training and many are eager to sniff out a "terraist."
my town is VERY small and everyone knows me. And outside of town, I just don't worry. Tennessee cops overall are pretty cool. I went through a roadblock with my "Annoy a Republican: TELL THE TRUTH" sign and they were as kind as always.


But sorry for your troubles.

The Constitution still functions, but only on the fumes of liberty not snuffed out by the fascist Bushistas.

[MagickMuffin]

57. I've been offline working something up

It's very graphic but to get the sheeple's attention it has to be.

I apologize to anyone this might upset.

I saved this in different formats, if anyone is interested PM me and I'll send you pdf, eps, or any other format you choose.

[Tsiyu]

66. Thank you SOOOOO much

You can say anything you want

Above a picture:

"Does a Christan nation do THIS?"

"I desire mercy, not sacrifice." God

"Blessed are the peacemakers"

"Woe to you who are rich now."

"Whatever you do to the least of these, you do also to me." Jesus

"Did Jesus tell you to do this?"

There is a whole 'nother aspect, if wounded soldiers would consent to their photos being used. But I will save that for another thread.

Just think of the possibilities: "This Veteran is glad you got a tax break!"

[knight_of_the_star]

74. I know one

I'm thinking of putting the following under a few pics:

"At least they're liberated."

[July]

83. Can't you use photos that have appeared in the press?

Would you still need permission if it has already been published widely?

[Gregorian]

60. I like it. I like it.

Man, this feels good. Like David felt when he first saw Goliath stumble. Sort of like that? I guess we have to start really getting out there. Way out there. Show them what the media won't. That's it. We have to do what they won't do. Show them the death they are voting for.

[Tsiyu]

65. Yes, Gregorian, we can BE the media

Festoon all of our cars with the real news.

I swear, it freaks people out. They either back way the hell off or they try to get away from me as fast as they can. Most Tennessee men are gentlemen, so none have tried to bother me, even if they glare.

But people are really floored by the pictures.

[bobbieinok]

75. possibly because most people without the internet HAVE NEVER

SEEN THE PICTURES OF DEAD AND WOUNDED IRAQI CHILDREN?????????

[Rhiannon12866]

63. This won't have any effect on those who are already seriously delusional

Yesterday, I cringed when they had film footage of injured children, in Fallujah, on the news. And my Freeper mother had absolutely no sympathy. She told me that if I like them so much, I should go over to Iraq and take care of them. Hate is hate, whether it's terrorists or innocent children.;(

[Tsiyu]

68. Yeah, I know that and sorry about your differences

I'm sure your mother drives you insane.

But you know, what the hell happened to that whole friggin line about "We're going to help the Iraqi people. We're doing this for them as much as for ourselves."????????????????????????????????


Now, we don't give a fuck? We invaded their country on false grounds, killed 100,000+ of them, failed to secure the citizens but made sure to get to the oil ASAP, allowed our American corporations to make insane, absolutely SINFUL amounts of $$$$$$$$ in the deal, and they are supposed to just take it?

It hurts that some men and women are this coldhearted. Jesus loves every child, if the bible is at all truthful. If it's a lie, then stop wrapping their murders into a convenient Christian package.
A lie is no reason to invade another country, unless you're down with the idea of your own nation being arbitrarily invaded.

No, not everyone will catch it. But they feel that lump of guilt. Evil people -unless severely mentally ill - always know they are evil. Karl Rove gloats over just how effectively evil he is. But there's a conscience in there. Somewhere. It's not up to us to change people. But we can tweak them into changing themselves sometimes. Don't fool yourself.

[Rhiannon12866]

72. She sure does. Because she attends church, she considers herself

a Christian. And, because I don't, I'm some kind of heathen. The night before "shock and awe" began, someone on DU posted a photo of a little Iraqi boy concentrating very hard, trying to float a candle in the water, during a candlelight vigil. When I saw the first horrific bomb blasts, I cried for that child. I wondered how he was, if he was scared, or if he was even still alive.;(

I guess I blame the media in this. You're right, after all the other reasons for invading Iraq, WMDs, ties to al-Qaeda, participation in 9/11, melted away, the one that they still clung to was "helping the Iraqi people." So why isn't anybody in the media calling them on this last, desperate reason that they gave? Thousands are dead, and more are dying as I type this. They are being blown to kingdom come in this bloody assault on Fallujah.;(

51% of the Iraqi population is 15 and under, so the majority who are being killed in this terrible war are children. And it's not just that they are being shot and bombed, but they are being killed and maimed by picking up unexploded cluster bombs, unguarded equipment and weapons, made ill by the unsanitary conditions that are a result of this war, and don't get me started on the depleted uranium.:grr:

I don't think that there's hope for my mother. When I cringed at those first obscene photos to come out of Abu Ghraib, she walked in, took a look at the TV, and said "good." Everybody else that I know feels as you and I do. But I'll take your advice seriously, during the next Freeper encounter that I have. Maybe guilt is the way to make these people see reason. But I just wish that the damn media would start speaking up. "Liberal media,' my #$%$&!!:grr:

[HuskerDem]

71. If she's a Christian - Ask her if Jesus would approve of her hard heart

And the slaughter of innocents. Tell her to try cracking open a New Testaments or the Gospels in particular and see what she finds in there.

Tell her she taught you better than that.......... She'll LOVE that.

[Rhiannon12866]

73. My mother goes to church all the time

And she keeps a bible by her bed, though I have no idea if she reads it.:shrug:

She knows better than to think that she taught me compassion. I got all I have of that from my father. But since he died, and isn't here to speak for himself, she constantly tells me how "ashamed" he'd be of me, because I grew up to be a liberal. I know better than to believe that, but it still hurts.;(

[HuskerDem]

77. Ouch, mom has some serious issues

Could I suggest a book?

Toxic Parents : Overcoming Their Hurtful Legacy and Reclaiming Your Life
by SUSAN FORWARD


It helped a friend of mine who's mom was an alcholic and blamed her for it. You can find it on Amazon or B&N.

[Rhiannon12866]

78. Thank you so much.

Actually, I started seeing a therapist, last year, and she used the same word, toxic. I will check this out.:shrug:

And, as far as alcohol is concerned, this does play a part, and I have given in to it, as well, just to cope, so you are truly prescient. But I am planning on moving, this month, which should help, but this is still always with you, as your relatives are, since you cannot pick them.:-(

Thanks so much for caring enough to post this. I cannot tell you how much I appreciate it.:pals:

BTW, if you order books through the Animal Rescue Site, you provide a bowl of food for a homeless animal, for every dollar that you spend. B & N is one of their sponsors, so I will choose them. For me, all of whose animals are rescue, and who has friends working at this thankless task, this is important. Thanks, again.:-)

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites.woa/wa/gotoSite?destSite=AnimalRescueSite&origin=reminderT

Rhiannon :grouphug:

[HuskerDem]

95. Thanks for letting me know about the Animal Rescue Site

I'll order all my books through there now and tell my friends too. I have a really serious soft spot for the puppies and kitties. I encourage everyone to adopt from shelters and shun the puppy mills.

You are very welcome about the book. Good luck with your move. Sometimes distance can do miracles. I hope you can find a therapist in your new area that is thoughtful and wise. Don't get too down on yourself or think that you will turn into your mom just because you've had a nip o' the sauce now and then. You are taking control of your life and it's direction which would indicate to me at least that you are on a healthy path.

Godspeed to you.:hug:

[Rhiannon12866]

97. Thanks so much, my friend

Both of my dogs, as well as my previous pets, have been rescue. So I recommend this site, which I click on, everyday, to provide food for homeless animals. My pets have been there, both dogs and cats. My Sara was minutes away from being gassed in Ohio, where she was found as a stray, and was transported by a kind of "underground railroad" of people, who brought them to various rescue groups in NY and VT, where they have tougher animal protection laws. My tiny dog belonged to a wealthy woman who died, and her estate never claimed either him, nor his biological sister. They were placed separately, which was a tragedy for him, since he looked to her as the leader. When I adopted him, he immediately bonded with my cocker spaniel, as the sister who he lost, but I lost her a year ago, despite extraordinary veterinary measures. We haven't had an easy time.;(


This kind of encouragement is the thing that keeps me going. I spent last weekend at my house, and didn't drink at all, but had to go home to finally take a shower, and my bigger dog was more then ready to go, since she just can't spend all her time as a "couch potato," like my little guy. He's okay with his, but she is an active dog. I have to solve this, while keeping my sanity. Thanks so much for your advice and support. I need to make this a permanent solution for all of us.:pals:

[da_chimperor]

64. Very cool stuff, good to hear it worked! eom

[Tsiyu]

69. Thanks Holy Chimperer

BE THE MEDIA!



:toast:

[ellie]

76. My DH and I were

talking about getting some posters made up with photos of dead Iraqi children and going down to the abortion clinic and telling the pro-lifers that they were hypocrites if they support the war. Then we will stand back and watch their heads explode. We will also take pictures of them and the cars they drive in. If they want to feel persecuted, I will comply.

[MagickMuffin]

80. Perhaps my last post would strike a nerve

I know it upsets me to see these little children who don't have a choice about what is happening to their country.

The little children who don't understand why the Americans are bombing their country.

The little children who will grow up for the rest of their lives with the fact that they may not have a mother or a father, a hand to eat with or a leg to stand on.

They did not plan on having to wake up for the rest of their lives hating Americans because of "our" leaders greed for oil, power, and their war profiteering.

They did not ask to be liberated.

[Tsiyu]

99. Awesome idea. elite

They don't want their tax dollars supporting abortion? I don't want mine supporting the murders of children for oil and corporate greed.

[MagickMuffin]

79. Here's another one to consider

Notice what is written on the child's pic.

It says it all don't ya think?

I thought I scared every one off with my last pic, though!

[MagickMuffin]

87. I don't know what happened to my pic

Maybe it got removed because of it's size????
Anyway here's a smaller version

[NickiWitch]

89. Thank you!

This is a great idea. The pictures are disturbing, but it's what the "moral" majority is choosing to ignore and needs to have put in their face.

[MagickMuffin]

96. I agree with you

I have a hard time viewing all the tragic pics of Iraqi civilians, but I just felt like the people who don't have any idea of what is really happening over there should be confronted with the truth.

After all Dickhead Cheney didn't even want the civilian casualties numbers to be made public. Kinda like out of sight, out of mind.

[Tsiyu]

98. Thank you for all you've done, Muffin

I posted one of them on the car this morning.

One person can inspire many to courage....

[DoYouEverWonder]

86. Here's another

What Part of Thou Shalt Not Kill
Don't You Understand? Jesus


If they are going to show me blown up pictures of unborn fetuses, then I'm going to show them the real horror of their war for Bush.

You can't follow Jesus,
If you choose to follow Bush.

[Tsiyu]

100. Thanks for this very sad sight

May this babe's face change a heart somewhere :cry:

[underseasurveyor]

88. OOH OOH OOH ................... Here's some great Jesus pencil drawings

You could say something like, 'This is what Jesus had in mind not... then show a pic of murdered Iraqi babies. The first picture is my favorite. Look at the expressiveness captured in their faces. Gives me a tear for what it should be.



I think that makes a pretty gut wrenching statement. Your Idea is fantastic Buddyhollysghost.....Excellent!

[Swamp Rat]

93. Here you go RFK2... it wasn't easy making this bumpersticker.

:(

[underseasurveyor]

94. OMG Swamp Rat straight to the heart

I can't hold back the sobs.

Thanks so much for doing that. I'm printing some out to put in my front window, on the back door and the window in my car, etc.

[Tsiyu]

102. Very nice, Swampy. Thanky

Great Job. I will save and print.

So sad, those pictures, eh?

[Rhiannon12866]

117. That's very well done, though it rips your heart out!

Thanks so much for your excellent work!;(

[Tsiyu]

101. Very cool RFK2!

I will definitely use these.
Thanks so much for your help.

Let's show them what Jesus truly stood for....

[datasuspect]

119. hmmm . . . .

here is probably what most of the repubs have in mind though:

[underseasurveyor]

126. You got that right LOL

I think Jesus wants his image restored and even though I am not religious in any sense of the meaning, I'm more than willing to help the guy out ;-)

[LibDemAlways]

90. Mine is going to say:

IF YOU VOTED FOR BUSH,
YOU VOTED FOR THIS (Pic of Maimed Iraqi child)

Maybe will give one or two of them pause.

[Tsiyu]

103. Awesome Message

Be prepared to never see tailgaters again. At least not in the red zones of Tennessee!

[Zookeeper]

91. OK...I'm going to be a little contrary here....

(which wouldn't surprise anyone who knows me..;-) ), but my concern with the very graphic photos is having them seen by small children who are unable to put them in context. As a parent, I dealt with that driving past Fundies holding gory photos of (supposedly) aborted fetuses. And if I wasn't already hostile toward the anti-choice protesters, that would have made me hostile.

I do like your idea, BuddyHolly'sGhost, and my van is plastered with bumperstickers and other little messages. However, I would encourage everyone to give some thought to who will be seeing these images. Plenty of those photos clearly relate the pain, suffering and injuries without showing brains falling out of a person's skull.

[Tsiyu]

106. None of the photos I posted is this gruesome

for this reason. But I want children to ask their parents:

"Why is that baby in bandages?"

I want dialogue. I want to force parents who voted for * to tell their children the truth. Maybe they won't. Maybe they will drive past really quickly. or hold back from getting close.

Reality sucks. My concern is for our troops, first, being the mom of a Vet, and for the children, because the Jesus I learned about as a child would be weeping over the carnage in Iraq.

Children deserve the truth. And every chance we can give them. I'll take the chance. My sorrow over what my government is doing is too overwhelming.

[Zookeeper]

108. I had a feeling that you would be sensitive...

to the issue of young children seeing the most gory photos and being frightened without being able to understand.

I really was being a devil's advocate for readers who may not be tuned in to the fact that there isn't much to be gained by completely freaking out little kids. Even if a parent took the time to explain the things we are hoping they would explain (and how many fundies and freepers are going to do that?), to a four, five or six year old it would be meaningless.

And, as I posted, I certainly resent the fundies shoving their gory "fetus" photos in my kid's faces. There were enough photos in that group that showed the pain and horror without being graphic enough to traumatize a little kid.

[MagickMuffin]

112. My intentions are not meant for the children

My intentions are strictly for their parents.

And again like I've said in previous post my intentions are for the windshields of cars parked at churches.

Sometimes we cannot avoid things that children may or may not see. But if they are exposed to the realities that we as adults have to face, then perhaps we can shape the way they will perceive the world in which they live.

I find it hard to look at the reality of what our government is doing in our names, but face it we must.

I hope that I don't offend anyone here. As I do understand your concerns!

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[Fatima]

105. This is a REALLY COOL thing you've done and thank you

for rattling the conciences of those who dismiss the deaths of Iraqis as inconsequential and meaningless- right, left and center. Thank you.

[Tsiyu]

107. You're so welcome, Fatima

My heart is breaking more every day.

i must do something or it will burst

[buckettgirl]

109. i really want to do something like that...

but i am truly afraid of being persecuted by my neighbors and such...
I live in a town of around 2000 people and i go to school in a town of around 25000 people...and these are "moral" people, but they get pretty vicious sometimes... what can i do to protect myself should i decide to go visual with controversial bumper stickers or pictures?

[mzmolly]

111. Remember those horrible semi trucks with a fetus on the side?

Perhaps we should have started our own campaign? Though I'd not want to terrorize children in that manner. :(

[Zookeeper]

113. Yes, my kids saw the semi with the giant bloody fetus photo...

on the side. My youngest just turned ten, so I don't think any of them were traumatized. But, don't you just love the irony of those bozos being so concerned with the innocent unborn, yet don't see a problem with slapping preschoolers in the face with bloody pictures. They are the ones always screaming about how parents should have control over what their children are exposed to, yet they take it upon themselves to decide what other people's kids should see.

BTW, as far as the fetus photos go...one could blow up a photo of any kind of surgery and claim it's a photo of an abortion. We also need to be sure that any photos of Iraqi tragedies that we display are not easily questioned as to authenticity. Swamp Rat's choice higher up in this thread is a great one for that reason.

[Pachamama]

115. I saw one of those trucks last week on election day in Ohio.....

I think that we should have someone start doing a campaign like this across the country.....I'm sorry if children got upset if they saw that while in the car, but maybe those same kids are being raised in families that are teaching them "family values" and how great Bush is...teach those values....

[Pachamama]

116. You mean these trucks?

http://www.abortionno.org/RCC/keystates.html

[mzmolly]

118. Yes, perhaps we should counter with trucks like these?

We could pluck a few of their own bible versus and plaster semi-trucks all around Merika!

http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

Warning horrid/graphic content.

These people never cease to amaze.

[Pachamama]

124. It actually would be a great idea to this...

Not only does one counter their message with a message of our own, its taking a page out of their book....Amazingly, it would be fairly simple to set up a 501 non-profit, tax exempt (as they are) non-partisan organization that could be funded by "donations" (hey - if every DUer gave $20, that alone would be $1MM. Amazingly, one could even be "creating jobs" while doing this because of the Drivers one would hire to drive these trucks....These people, especially people on DU who need some part-time work because of being laid off could be paid for their time...

We need to start "thinking" strategically like the Neo-cons and fundies...fight fire with fire....

[Minimus]

127. my gawd. I have never seen those trucks. I cannot believe

that shit.

I skimmed through that site and the one picture title: "Do this to your baby and this may happens to your breast" is outrageous. There is NO scientific evidence to back the claim that abortion causes breast cancer.

How do they get away with this crap?!! I am fuming!!!!!!

[Pachamama]

128. When I was in Ohio on election day & saw one of these trucks driving next

to us, my friend and I couldn't believe it....it not only made us sick, it made us angry that sick people could drive a truck around showing something like that...it qualifies as corpse abuse as far as I'm concerned....

And to your point, they clearly make statements that are not substantiated but also who is to say that these pictures were in fact of aborted fetuses, not fetuses that died in utero and had to be expelled...

I looked on that site and it looks like there are cases against these people but it does go to show you what we are up against and to what ends they will go....that's why I think we need to start countering them with our own "shock and awe" campaign...

[notundecided]

120. "Bush Sucks"

I put a "Bush Sucks" sign on my truck just above my
Kerry/Edwards sticker. I seem to get a lot less tailgaters now.

[thebaghwan]

122. How about: "Defend Marriage-Outlaw Divorce

n/t

[nodehopper]

125. tacky during the campaign?

that's when it should have been seen! why tacky then and not now?