We got Diebolded, folks!! This is how we prove it! READ THIS NOW!

[ElementaryPenguin]

http://www.crisispapers.org/essays/e-voting.htm

Time to move on this with Bev Harris!

It DOESN'T MATTER that Kerry conceded - it's the actual tally that is binding!!!!

[billbuckhead]

1. Until we get rid of these machines our democracy is nonexistant

[ElementaryPenguin]

2. True. And proving this fraud is how we get rid of them!

:mad:

[ObaMania]

3. We don't have anyone..

.. BBV exposure was a complete failure, why would anyone want to revisit anything to do with Diebold? Heck, they seem to be the only thing that was right with the election.

[bloom]

4. It should be up to the people - we are the ones who voted, after all

If we can prove Kerry won and he doesn't want to do it - then it would be up to Edwards, etc.

[flobee1kenobi]

5. the problem is...

who do we prove it to?
congress?
the courts?

its all the same branch of gov. now

[Cleita]

7. How about all you people who still have a Democratic

Governor? I don't. I have Ah-nold but I think you could take it to the Democratic governors. I my case I still have Democratic senators we can take it to. We need to try.

[wildflower]

8. Possible to send straight to the media?

Will any of them report it?

-wildflower

[BevHarris]

6. Quit the whining, we can prove this. Penguin is right.

n/t

[Proud_Lefty]

9. Yes!

How many posts do you see where DU members are furious with John Kerry for not fighting? And then we see so many of us doing the same thing. Penguin, Bev! What do we do? I'm either fighting or leaving the country and the latter happens to be too much of a hassle right now (and not as intriguing).

[ElementaryPenguin]

20. We f*cking fight! We at DU have ALL known about BBV for a long time!

Bev and others explained it - and it frickin' HAPPENED!!!

[JPace]

12. Are there any Dem leaders out there willing to take

the lead on making an issue of this?

[ElementaryPenguin]

13. Waxman, Wexler, Rush Holt... These would seem among the most

approachable. However, are interests may best be served from here on out, if we realize that WE ARE the Democratic Party!

[ElementaryPenguin]

21. Wouldn't it be fabulous if we could get Soros to finance this investigatio

There MUST be a way!! M Moore might have some ideas how to finance Bev and her folks. It would be nice if we could prove some semblance of a smoking gun (I suppose the exit polls suffice).

[Orangepeel]

10. If you believe BBV is a problem, then it is not about this election

the issue is larger than bush or kerry. it is about democracy.

don't get caught up into proving that bush was illegitimately elected; if you can, prove that fraud was committed somewhere -- no matter to how small a degree -- so we can work on fixing it for the future.

Me, I don't believe electronic voter fraud happened here in Florida (we got similar percentages of the vote in the southern counties with BBV as we did in 2000 -- it was the northern counties that screwed us). But, I do think electronic voter fraud is possible so I hope you can prove it.

[ElementaryPenguin]

14. We CANNOT allow BushCo to get away with stealing 2 elections in a row!

But you're right! This IS about the future of our badly ailing democracy.

[shance]

11. Thank you EP***The power and responsibility belongs to us now.

This is good stuff.

[ElementaryPenguin]

16. You're welcome. We can (and often do) accomplish great things here at DU!

:bounce:

[slor]

15. Get this info to KERRY!!!! n/t

[ElementaryPenguin]

19. I just forwarded this to someone close to one of the heads of Kerry's camp

Anyone out there with any other connections are certainly encouraged to do likewise! Think outside the box, folks!

[slor]

17. Get it to Kerry HQ ! n/t

[AntiFascist]

18. Look at it this way....

Putin blatantly ended democracy in Russia by having to take autocratic control of his government. In the U.S. the process has been more insidious, being aided by Diebold. How many more elections will we have to endure this, will this be the state of affairs from now on?