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4dog (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 07:46 PM Original message |
The Latest Bin Laden Video Tape Is A Fraud |
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cubsfan forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. Maybe maybe not |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. Looks like the same guy to me n/t |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 07:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Agreed. |
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ROH (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-31-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
134. Isn't the beard the easiest part to duplicate, and ... |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 02:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
73. Me too |
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CosmicVortex21 (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-31-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
132. Me too. |
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Sannum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Hmmm... |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. shhhhhhh |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 08:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Is it o-kay |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 08:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. It is more than OK with me! I just had to eat my hat and confess that I |
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The Minus World (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 02:17 AM Response to Reply #19 |
72. Misoverestimated, indeed! |
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maryallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #72 |
79. "Ticket to ride" |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 02:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
75. Why do you think you're so much smarter than John Kerry? |
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dad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 08:14 PM Response to Reply #75 |
116. 8 |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
87. That is Osama. You can tell by the details he provides in his speech. |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #87 |
104. LOL now if you want to talk about the actor's SCRIPT |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. Looks like him to me. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
6. That's what I believe. Just tooooo damn convenient. And anyway, |
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Thtwudbeme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 07:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I agree; I just wish the producers of the tape would have just |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
7. name any celebrity |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 07:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. There is a bulb on the end of his nose |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 11:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
58. The nose is NOT the same to me |
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greyfox (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
110. Ecactly... |
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ilovenicepeople (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 11:45 PM Response to Reply #110 |
126. his eyebrows seem higher and his nose is different looking? |
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LiberteToujours (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 05:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
112. A voice of reason |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
8. Looks like Fred Sanford. |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
41. Elizabeth!!....Lord Amighty....I'm a comin' to join ya! :) |
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are_we_united_yet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 10:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
123. Did OBL mention Whopper Choppers in the video? |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
12. The eyebrows and cheekbones don't match, |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
51. The current one looks more like the real thing than-- |
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rooboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
13. It's a Halloween prank. n/t |
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PyschoSteve85 (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Its fake |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. I completely agree |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. Nope, it's him. |
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Cookie wookie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
17. If it's Osama, he's put on weight |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 08:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. So glad you posted your findings. I'm sure you're right. |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. Babu Bhat? |
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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
22. Here's my blowup of the 2 pics that look fairly similar |
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The empressof all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. The one on the left looks like Bush |
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FizzFuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. thanks for the enlargement....they look different to me |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 11:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
127. To me, it looks the same |
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hangemhigh (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #22 |
89. Election Eve Osama-It's an animated version... |
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bacchant (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 12:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
92. It could be distortion caused by light and duping degradation but |
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belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 10:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
120. I'm not much for tinfoil, but those do look quite different, it's true. |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
24. Here's a sharper pic from the tape |
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4dog (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
25. If Osama is addressing Americans, why doesn't he speak English? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. He should, he had very good (expensive Western education |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #25 |
82. Does El Chimpo use their language when addressing them?... |
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Sebum (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
26. Was it a marionette? |
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Ima (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. TYG |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
28. It's Pete Townshend |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
29. Looks like he's been eating well. And he's aged. How old is he??? |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. He would be 47 |
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Sinnerman (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
31. Speculation on MSNBC that this is Karl Roves October Surprise |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I dunno |
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OneTwentyoNine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. This tape DOES NOT help Bush....repeat after me |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
84. the TERROR card helps bush |
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ilovenicepeople (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-31-04 01:15 AM Response to Reply #38 |
128. If the tape does'nt help bUSH, |
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ROH (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-31-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #128 |
130. No... |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
32. why is he so far away from the camera? |
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Nordic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
34. Wow. Based on that still image, no, it is NOT Osama Bin laden |
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ROH (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 11:26 PM Response to Reply #34 |
56. Also... |
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kysrsoze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 02:28 AM Response to Reply #34 |
76. WTF are you talking about? Of course it's him. We didn't kill him. |
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JPace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
35. They have a way of studying the voice (print?) |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
36. If it's a fake, it looks pretty good... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Deleted message |
Ima (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. whats up with you? |
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sr_pacifica (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
40. Doesn't look the same to me n/t |
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sr_pacifica (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
42. There are better images--go to gettyimages.com |
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Nordic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 11:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
63. Yes, here are two shots from getty images -- |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
44. You Betcha..It's just waaay Toooo Con-veeen-ient.... |
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Cat Atomic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
45. Looks like bin Laden to me. I'm surprised that so many people here |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Read #44 |
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shugah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
46. sometimes |
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Kathryn7 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Make the picture a little narrower and a little taller |
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Qanisqineq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 02:54 AM Response to Reply #49 |
78. That was my first thought |
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belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #49 |
122. Oh, a compression would make sense. |
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CityZen-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
50. It's!!!!! |
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ever_green (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
52. That picture is distorted |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 11:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Closer but still no cigar |
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sleepyhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
109. I thought of steroids too. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
53. I was right. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
55. agreed. it's designed to give * numbers a boost just like a terror alert |
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GettysbergII (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
57. Hmmmm. The scum also rises. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. rise to the top |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
60. the top pic looks like the guy we call "fat Osama" |
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Nordic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 11:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. you mean this guy? |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 02:39 AM Response to Reply #62 |
77. yeah, that's him |
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truthseeker1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
106. what's marfan's syndrome? |
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ilovenicepeople (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-31-04 01:29 AM Response to Reply #106 |
129. Mr. Bentley on The Jefferson's had Marfan's syndrome |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-29-04 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
61. The eyes are all wrong |
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kwyjibo (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
64. Wag The Dog, anyone? |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
65. You gotta admit, tho, this is a solid improvement over the first Fat Osama |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
66. I think it is most likely fake - perhaps a brother/relative....eom |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
67. the strikes had to be carried out "within 20 minutes before Bush or his |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
68. n/t |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 01:56 AM Response to Original message |
69. Looks like the same guy to me |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 02:00 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. It looks like the same guy to me too but there was a foreign guy on CNN |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
71. It's a different person |
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ROH (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
115. The beard has to be the easiest part to duplicate... |
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the_outsider (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
74. Politically it does not make sense for them to release a fake video today |
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screembloodymurder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 10:43 AM Response to Reply #74 |
80. You forget what their campaign is about. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. and we all know what happens when they play the TERROR card |
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the_outsider (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. I know Terra has worked for them in the past but... |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #93 |
111. OBL is their trump card |
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the_outsider (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #80 |
94. But they have not mentioned OBL or Al Qaeda too much |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #74 |
83. Okay....when have they NOT lied to us on ANY subject? |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #83 |
88. You smell it correctly |
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nefarious (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 11:07 AM Response to Reply #74 |
85. Makes no political sense if that is all they're going to do |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
86. How come he hasn't aged? Aw, come on. |
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sr_pacifica (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. You don't see it? |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. I'm just repeating the question of the What Really Happened link |
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bacchant (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
90. THREE THINGS could help establish |
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truthseeker1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #90 |
113. Oh yes, the CIA |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #90 |
121. Poppy's old friends at the CIA? |
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fear the donkey (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
91. Wrong Way To Handle Tape! |
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fedsron2us (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 01:36 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. No way is this guy going to be captured or killed |
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the_outsider (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
96. I do not think it helps us at this point to insist that it's a fake video |
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LifeDuringWartime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
98. why is he sitting at a table? |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Cheney told him to insist on being seated. Like the debate. |
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smitty (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
101. ubl alive |
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ROH (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
102. These tapes that we are shown are generally low quality... |
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Lizzie Borden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #102 |
125. Forensic scientists use ears |
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retread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
103. It's Bin Laden. He looks different because he has been |
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Ima (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. not him |
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wovenpaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
105. Throwing in my 2 cents: As an artist, |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
108. I have seen all of his tapes |
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LiberteToujours (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
114. It looks the same to me |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
117. "Fat Osama" has lost weight since his last appearance on film. . . |
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ROH (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 10:02 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Changing Content |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 10:30 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Thanks for the exact quote. Is there an online link I could bookmark? |
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ROH (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-30-04 10:55 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. Link |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-31-04 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
131. is this the first time we've seen him sitting at a western style table |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-31-04 12:34 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. The Chinese use tables too, don't they? |
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WoodrowFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-31-04 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
135. looks like the same guy to me |
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maveric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-31-04 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
136. New Osama's nose is wider at the nostril area and flatter at the bridge. |
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