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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:39 PM
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"stacks of registrations had the same handwriting"
Yes, because volunteers are TOLD to fill out the registrations for voters, so they don't make a mistake.

That is legal and proper, as long as the voter signs it.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&ncid=2026&e=2&u=/latimests/20041027/ts_latimes/signsofvoterfraudappear

Signs of Voter Fraud Appear

By Richard Serrano and Ralph Vartabedian Times Staff Writers

LAS VEGAS - Partisan registration drives have swept through battleground states such as Nevada, Ohio and New Mexico. Hundreds of thousands of new registrations have poured into county and state offices and strained the systems in these states.

But as workers closely examined some forms, they found clear cases of fraud. In some instances, stacks of registrations had the same handwriting. In others, names were lifted from phone books and signatures forged. And many of the new registrations were duplicates of already registered voters.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:42 PM
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1. How did they know signatures
were forged or names were lifted?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:44 PM
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3. doesn't say. Maybe they assumed that if the handwriting
was the same, then the rest of the document must be bogus.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:44 PM
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2. I printed registration forms for people so they would be legible
The writing was really bad when holding a clipboard
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:45 PM
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4. did you check the form after they filled it out? nt
nt
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 07:08 PM
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8. Yes, added zip codes etc. and hand delivered them to VoteMob
So they could hand deliver to Board of Elections. We did not mail them.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:46 PM
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5. And there were online registrations.....
....That came from....the SAME Internet Service Provider!! What frigging morans...
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:48 PM
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6. yes, more than one person used the same online form. it's horrifying! (nt)
nt
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:51 PM
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7. Nathan Sproul's group again...AZ, ORE, and Nevada
Meanwhile, the Republican National Committee (news - web sites) has funded one company at the center of allegations, Voter Outreach of America Inc., which is active in Las Vegas and across the nation. It was set up by Nathan Sproul, former chairman of the Arizona Republican Party
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 07:20 PM
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9.  registration fraud, not.
I know a few people who registered twice, so a duplicate is not necessarily a sign of fraud. Neither is the same hand printing, I printed for everyone and called them at home to dblecheck any info they left out, etc. Sadly a lot of people don't complete it well enough on their own. And yes, the opposition will challenge on that.
I registered hundreds of people here in Hoboken, and since everybody's a Dem here, including the bad guys, the ones that were destroyed were chosen because I or others they knew in the opposition signed as witness. These were actually ripped out of the voter roll books by poll workers, not thrown out in the garbage. It took a drive to the county courthouse to get an order to vote to fix that. We had submitted regs directly to the county,and were prepared with alphabetized copies of all registrations taken in because people had seen this happen before. Hopefully most groups took these precautions too.
Keep in mind though that these phony Dem registrations must be the work of dirty tricksters to discredit us. Using an address for empty lot will surely get you flagged, even here in in Hoboken. It's too planned and too obvious to catch at the polling place that I'm sure it's a set up to justify the way they will try to throw out many more with minor misspellings, ink blots, etc. It's a smear that if someone misspells or writes slightly illegible to call it fraud. The same idiots who think those poor people in florida could see their own chads will buy this Dem fraud bullshit. I can't believe they would compare fraud by theft and destruction of registrations to fraud by forgetting to check a box or something.
Yikes.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 08:08 PM
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10. interesting
I didn't realize that the empty lot address might be the oppositon trying to discredit.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:39 PM
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11. they need some "fraud" to disenfranchise so many and get away w/ it...
it would be so easy to do. you could walk up and falsely register a dozen times a day, and then check off democrat. who would know, until they are being scrutinized later?
i keep hearing fraud fraud fraud on the repugs part, but what we mainly see is that they people left out a detail, check a box, or were kind of illegible. meanwhile, they know there are dem's regs being thrown in the garbage, lots more lost in the mail.
they have to spread some kind of crap about dems. then people will think, hey, everybody does it! the accusations are flying back and forth...
this is what i get for living in hoboken, it's made me hopelessly cynical. because here it was an effective strategy for the pols. any dirty thing they were accused of, they shot back louder that no, the other side did it. A friend who heard loud anti-Semitic remarks at an event complained appealed to the mayor to stop the ugliness. his response was to shout loudly, "what did you call me? a f&#ing ethnic slur? a stinking dirty *@#*+% !!
The good news is that now, this man is in jail. But he did win that election. I stayed away from politics a long time because of that man.
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