Guess who Savage Weiner blames for the decline of Western Civilization?

[KamaAina]

Specifically, I mean, not just us "pinko commie Islamo-fascist liberals".

Guess who he singled out last night?

Allen Ginsberg.

That's right. Savage Weiner spent several precious minutes of air time last night on a lengthy diatribe against the evils personified by... Allen Ginsberg.

That would be the same Allen Ginsberg with whom a young Weiner famously corresponded about the virtues (or lack thereof) of young Pacific Island men, as discovered by Radar magazine:

http://www.radarmagazine.com/freshintelligence.html#

RIGHT-WING SHLOCK-JOCK MIKE SAVAGE HAS A SECRET. Since recapping his racist and homophobic rants in our premiere issue, we've learned that the ex-liberal (aka Michael Weiner) whose syndicated radio program The Savage Nation (aka Sieg Heil on the Dial) was scooped up by a desperate MSNBC was once a close friend and pen-pal of Beat poet Allen Ginsberg. It took a search of the Howl author's collected letters at Stanford University to discover just how close:

March 8, 1970
Dear Allen:
After speaking to you on the phone about how nice the black-white thing is in mountain villages in Fiji, I walked downstairs to the school courtyard, where a little–known black brother looks at me, takes my hand gently, we do some old–world Lower East Side finger tricks, and he peacefully kisses the back of my hand – I do the same for his hand. I told him about our brief talk, and he says, "I must have felt the vibes."
Michael Weiner
Botany Dept.
University of Hawaii
Honolulu, HI

So, in just the past few weeks:

* Weiner's homoerotic correspondence with Ginsberg is, for lack of a better word, exposed.

* Weiner goes off on a caller he assumes is gay (it was a prank call, we now know), calling him a "sodomite" and telling him to "get AIDS and die".

* Weiner then proceeds to lay a heavier-than-usual thou-art-evil trip on... Allen Ginsberg.

You figure it out. "Methinks he doth protest too much"...

Note the return address on this letter. I now have a dirty little secret of my own. I devoutly hope that Weiner does not start pining for the old days to the point where he comes back here! :puke:

[Emboldened Chimp]

1. Real brave of the Savage Wiener

to pick on a dead man. What an asshole this guy is.

[Ellen Forradalom]

2. That's not a nice way to treat your skinny-dipping partner.

Where have manners gone in this society?

[ibegurpard]

3. Makes me wonder if Ginsberg spurned him at one point.

Kind of like when the closeted neighbor kills Kevin Spacey in "American Beauty" after he comes on to Spacey thinking he is gay and Spacey rejects him.

:shrug:

[RummyTheDummy]

8. That's sort of what I was thinking.

I have a feeling Weiner was way more into Ginsberg than Ginsberg was into him, if at all.

[Generic Other]

4. He's been "drinking turpentine in Paradise Alley..."

"Where are we going my little Weiner? Which way does your beard point tonight?"

[RandomKoolzip]

5. Ah! I am shocked!

Okay, who knew it all along?

But I guess those people who work so viciously to stamp out irreducible concepts like homosexuality do so because they see their reflection in them. Weiner has some real self-esteem issues.

[jpgray]

6. Not Ginsberg's biggest fan, but he owns Savage

.

[opihimoimoi]

7. Kama, forget that toad already. he one lolo guy

come, we go eat Allen Wongs or Sam Choys

[tom_paine]

9. He just hates the Jews

Substitute "Jew" for "Liberal" and you will quickly see what I mean.

[dsc]

10. Why are only evil rat bastards speculated to be gay here?

I have never once seen a Nader is gay thread. I have never seen once a Wellstone is gay thread. I have never once need a McCain is gay thread. I have never once seen a Hillary is gay thread. I have never once seen an Elenor Roosevelt was gay thread. I have never once seen a Nadler is gay thread.

But gee can I see all the evil rat bastards are gay threads. W is gay, Limbaugh is gay, Robertson is gay, and now Savage is gay.

Why is this?

[ibegurpard]

11. I don't know about the other ones...

... but there was a discussion here a little while ago about some correspondence between Ginsberg and Savage where the Weiner was using some pretty interesting language.

Anyone remember which thread it was?
BTW, I'm gay and I think that information that would call into question the sexual orientation of gay-bashers like Savage is fair game.

[RandomKoolzip]

12. Because they present Anti-gay ideas to the public.

What we're outing here is hypocrisy. If somebody's gay, secretly, and frothing at the mouth at how evil gays are, then that's hypocritical and stupid and ought to be pointed out.

[Old and In the Way]

13. Because it's true?

Never heard about Robertson being gay, but maybe Wiener and Jeff Christies could hook up and do some finger tricks.

[PretzelWarrior]

14. because of saying "Thou doth protest too much"

best exchange in American Beauty was the retired military dad going on about them faggots and his son playing with his mind on that one.

[jpgray]

15. Glad to see them throw an Oscar his way

for Adaptation--Cooper did a great job in American Beauty.

[KamaAina]

16. Because, one hopes, non-evil rat bastards are out of the closet

"The only safe closet is the voting booth".

Robertson is gay?! That's a new one on me!!

[Classical_Liberal]

17. Alan Ginsberg is a neocon hate object

That is where the old ones like Podheratz got their start.