Harry Shearer can kiss my ass!

[The Night Owl]

What the hell is Harry Shearer's problem? The election is close as hell and what does he do? He releases an embarrassing video of Edwards spending a lot of time combing his hair and checking his face before some TV appearance. Why release that before the election?

http://slate.msn.com/id/2108216/slideshow/2108085/entry/2108087/speed/100

Edit: Added link.

[hiphopnation]

1. link?

[LiberalVoice]

3. Nice pic!

Outkast kicks ass!

[BiggJawn]

2. Because Karl told you to.

Duh?

[hiphopnation]

4. did I miss something here?

Is Shearer pro-Bush?

[The Night Owl]

5. Shearer is either a Bush supporter or a total moron.

We all know what the media did to Howard Dean for being too exhuberant at a campaign rally. Imagine what the media will do with the video of Edwards acting prissy.

[tigereye]

24. there is no way that Shearer is a Rep.

he is a skewer of those in power, though.

[Mojambo]

6. No. He's a comedian

People around here need to realize that everyone is not as partisan as we are.

Shearer thought it was funny.

[hiphopnation]

9. I agree.

A brilliant comedian, at that and, after reading the article, I didn't find anything that would make me hostile towards him because this video might be damaging to the K/E team. Sheesh. Talk about reactionary.

[bullimiami]

10. right he is a comedian.

go to harryshearer.com
click on leshow / archive and find the show for oct 3.

listen to hard work.

i dont know his politics but his satire is equal opportunity.

[catzies]

14. Exactly. Just like Jon Stewart. Neither are blind partisans.

And they're not stupid, either.

[rinsd]

19. Agreed....

"Oh my god he made fun of dear leader, destroy him!"

C'mon. What are people going to do when comedians start making fun of Kerry as the Prez?

[The Night Owl]

23. Were you under a rock when the media destroyed Howard Dean for yelling?

When the media goes 24-7 with video of Edwards looking prissy, I hope you remember what you wrote here.

[Forkboy]

29. yeah rinsd

I'll be here with Night Owl holding YOU responsible for the coming Kerry/Edwards loss because of this clip!!

You damn dirty apes!!!!

:P

:)

[rinsd]

41. Well if that is my burden to bear.....

...so be it.

;-)

[Mojambo]

54. Then your issue is with the Media

Not Harry Shearer.

[The Night Owl]

94. Yes, the problem is the media

Yes, the main problem is the media, but Shearer knows that. Shearer knows what the media can do to candidates who are caught looking silly, so why does he release video of Edwards looking silly? Because he wants to torpedo Kerry/Edwards.

Dukakis. Hello?

Dan Quayle. Hello?

Howard Dean. Hello?

Am I getting through here?

And for the record, no one is stopping Shearer from putting his "art" out there. That does not mean that I have to applaud him for making my guy look silly.

[Terran]

Do you really need to be told

that nobody gives a damn if comedians make fun of Kerry and Edwards *after* the damn election? But this shit just hurts thier chances right now. If Shearer is indeed a Democrat, it was stupid of him.

I'm sick of people defending non-partisans at a time like this. Non-partisan = stupid.

[Mojambo]

56. That's a Free Republic mindset

We're better than that. I hope.

[Terran]

71. No. If Harry was a repub making fun of Bush,

the freeps would be advocating violence against him. That's the FR "mindset". I'm just being realistic. Making fun of our candidates right before an election hurts our candidates. If you want them to lose, then fine. I'm merely saying Harry Shearer is an idiot IF he wants Kerry to win. I want Kerry to win, and it's clearly unwise to do anything that helps the other side. If you can't deal with even that elementary level of partisanship, than I suggest you are a tad too sensitive for DU.

[Mojambo]

72. I'm too sensitive?

For not getting upset about a joke made by a comedian?

Okay.

[Terran]

76. Not upset, just stating my opinion. n/t

[Mojambo]

81. We're cool

No worries

[rinsd]

70. "With us or against us"......

....where have I heard that before. This about making America better not exchanging one narrow mindset for another.

I'm sick of partisans being thought police.

[Terran]

74. Do you want Kerry to win or don't you?

I'm not the thought police. I have no control over what anyone says, nor do I desire such control. But it's a simple fact, two weeks before the election: anything and everything can and will be used against our candidates, and Harry Shearer just handed the other side ammunition.

Why don't you go stand on the sidewalk with a sign that reads, "Kerry for President...or Bush. Whoever." Narrow mindset my ass.

[rinsd]

123. No I want him to lose [/sarcasm]

"Harry Shearer just handed the other side ammunition."

No, Harry Shearer created an art exhibit in which he made fun of pols before they went on camera and Edwards was one Dem amongst mostly RWers.

He's a poltical satirist for crissakes who according to those who listen to his show rips Bush a new one all the time.

And I would rather be called a fence sitter than some rabid partisan who screams about insulting "dear leader".

[Robbie67]

124. that's kinda distressing

but, uh, do you attack Jon Stewart as stridently when he makes light of Kerry?

[Redleg]

7. One of my right-wing colleagues was watching and laughing.

I said to him "that's not nearly as funny as watching the video of Bush claiming that he never said he wasn't concerned about Bin Laden.

[otohara]

17. Or Sitting For 7 Minutes in Silence

when told the country was under attack

[soleft]

8. They must have threatened his life after he did Teddy Bear Picnic

he was surprisingly quite the a-hole on Olberman last night as well, falling into the category of comedians who'd rather get an easy laugh or seem Milleresqely "hip" rather than promote truth and help get Bush out of office

[hiphopnation]

11. right

because it's every entertainer's job to take a stand in any political season and risk becoming a partisan hack a la Miller. Otherwise they're either apologists or enablers. :eyes:

[soleft]

33. he took that risk and became one

apologist, no, enabler, perhaps

[NYCGirl]

12. It's an art show of raw feeds of people on cable...

he also includes Cheney, Nader, McCain and others. They're waiting to be interviewed before the live feed kicks in. It's the same sort of tape that Michael Moore used in the beginning and end of F9/11 as a framing device.

[The Night Owl]

20. The clip of Edwards is easily the most embarrassing of all the clips.

The Bush administration is constantly looking for ammunition to make Kerry/Edwards look weak when the nation is at war. Shearer just gave Bush/Cheney more ammunition.

Don't get me wrong- There is no substance to the video of Edwards looking prissy, but since when has substance ever mattered to the media?

[tigereye]

25. at least he has hair to comb

;)

[LordshipLadyship]

100. "The clip of Edwards is easily the most embarrassing of all the clips."

Just direct them to the Bush one at Smoking Gun. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/gbhair1.html

[Enraged_Ape]

13. Never have understood what anyone sees in Shearer

For years this guy has had numerous movie and TV roles (including a stint on Saturday Night Live), a pathetic radio show, and a weekly column in the L.A. Times in which he never has anything to say. He is also, amazingly, one of the half dozen people on Earth privileged enough to be granted a viewing of the Jerry Lewis film "The Day the Clown Cried". Not even Dean Martin got to do that.

Not once in more than 20 years have I have ever laughed at ANYTHING Shearer has ever said or done, with the possible exception of a few lines spoken on the Simpsons, which were all written by people other than Shearer. He is more Pauly-Shore-like than Pauly Shore. He makes Nipsey Russell look like the funniest man who ever lived.

[NYCGirl]

16. Not even this??

[Enraged_Ape]

26. Not even that

Shearer rode on the coattails of the giant talents of costars. He was like Ringo in the Beatles, or Chris Collinsworth on "FOX NFL Sunday".

[hiphopnation]

21. I'm sorry

but I can't accept your premise that just because the lines on the Simpson's are written by other folks that his vocal talent doesn't make the lines even more brilliant. The total is more than just the sum of its parts. He plays upwards of 15 characters on the Simpsons, each one as hilariously executed as the last, IMHO. Lovejoy, Skinner and many more. The words sitting on a page wouldn't do much more than make you chuckle.

What about Spinal Tap? He lent his talent to the brilliance of that film just like the other two did. Most of it was improv! Simply hilarious. I haven't read his column and only heard his radio show a few times, but I remember liking it.

On edit: We wouldn't even know the meaning of the term "Eeeexcellent" if it weren't for Shearer. And because of that, this picture would not be funny:

[Enraged_Ape]

30. I, too, am sorry that Shearer is not funny. It truly is sad.

Yeah, he does a lot of voices on the Simpsons. And I guess he must do a halfway decent job because I, occasionally, do laugh. But a whirling dervish of wit he is not.

[hiphopnation]

35. And my favorite "two dollar wine"

is not a 1968 Bordeaux, but I still drink it every night while watching Simpson's re-runs and they still make me laugh.

[Name removed]

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[Enraged_Ape]

44. Oh, man, there are a lot of "Escape from NY" fans on this board

I really wish you hadn't said that.

[RummyTheDummy]

51. A good popcorn flick?

Maybe. But high art it isn't.

[Enraged_Ape]

58. Did I ever once say it was?

[hiphopnation]

60. Did anyone here every say

Shearer was a "whirling dervhis of wit"? No. Some of us just think he's a talented guy. Hmmmmmmmm

[Enraged_Ape]

64. And some of us think that psoriasis is funnier than Shearer

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on some things, my non-Kerry-supporting friend.

ON EDIT: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make yet another assumption that you were my friend. Or even friendly. Please forgive me yet again.

[Forkboy]

68. How long O Lord...how long?

why do you think he doesn't support Kerry?

[hiphopnation]

69. Indeed we will.

"Eeeeexcellent"

But you forgot to apologize for assuming that I'm not supporting Kerry either. I've given you no info, either way save my very presence on this board and you really can't even be sure then.

This is about Mr. Shearer and this, *GASP* video of John Edwards primping his hair. I mean, HOW DARE HE release this fodder for Fox news to drive home to their already convinced base to...ummm....vote against Kerry/Edwards...which...they're going to do anyway. I mean. Of all things!! Entertainers should know better! Especially non-funny ones who don't deserve one fifteenth the adoration that they enjoy! I swear!

[Susang]

83. Too bad Shearer is banned from Fox News

Otherwise they could have him on to bash Kerry in person. :eyes:

Perhaps we should quarantine all the comedians we don't agree with until after the election. Especially really funny ones who starred in Spinal Tap. Then maybe there will be peace on DU. :evilgrin:

[Mike Daniels]

96. I actually thought Shearer was the best part of Spinal Tap

IMHO, Derek Smalls actually got most of the best lines and scenes in the entire movie.

[tigereye]

27. I really like his radio show

listened to it for years and I think he is a very good satirist and I think he is very funny. Spinal Tap was very funny. Have to disagree with you. :)

[Enraged_Ape]

31. Spinal Tap was funny

But it weren't because of him. He ruined almost every scene he was in.

[hiphopnation]

38. "Saucy Jack"

the musical about "Jack the Ripper". That was his!!

:D

There's so many more.

[Mad_Dem_X]

55. "You're a naughty one, Saucy Jack!"

Great movie; many quotable lines. :headbang:

[rniel]

93. i love his radio show

actually comes on on npr in idaho on saturdays. he's so funny. hammers on bush and right wingers for the entire show. that's his whole show.

[rinsd]

32. You didn't laugh during Spinal Tap?

No Mighty Wind even at the end when he was in drag?

A few lines of the Simpsons? Christ he does 1/3 of the characters?

He also wrote for SNL during its initial heyday.

Look I'm not saying he's the funniest guy. I enjoy him but there are certainly people I find funnier and more enjoyable. But it seems to me that his score on the hilarity meter depends more on his politics than his actual humor for too many people here.

[Enraged_Ape]

34. Shearer feeds off the talent of others

Like a freakin' artistic vampire. When left to his own devices, he makes Joey Bishop look like Oscar Wilde.

[hiphopnation]

36. Right.

Like Elvis, who didn't write any of his own songs. :eyes:

[Enraged_Ape]

39. I was thinking more Davey Jones

But I'm glad you're hip to the idea.

[hiphopnation]

43. "Cheer up Sleepy Jean"

Great singing voice!! Love some of that stuff. He definitely shouldn't have been so "big". Pfft!

[Enraged_Ape]

49. I forgot about that one

That's a good song. Davey did a good job with it. He also performed well on the Neil Diamond tune, "Look Out (Here Comes Tomorrow)".

Okay, I'm sorry I dissed Davey Jones.

[Lerkfish]

92. musical/cultureal taste is sooooo subjective, its pointless to argue.

for example, i agree that shearer has never made me laugh out loud, even on the old SNL he was competent but no more. Nothing against the guy, but he didn't stand out (of course, with that lineup, it would be hard for anyone, but I digress)

And, I liked escape from new york. I hate Barry Manilow's music. I don't like most rap but I like Outkast, I hate reality shows but I like sitcoms...yadda yadda yadda.....
its all personal preference....the kind of music you like or what ever does not reflect on your worth as a person or your ability to make a cogent point.

unless, of course, you think Pauli Shore is funny. then, I'll have to give you SUCH a pinch!

[mitchum]

126. LOL!!!

Y'know, I'm staying out of this whole Shearer funny/unfunny thing, but "when left to his own devices, he makes Joey Bishop look like Oscar Wilde" is fucking funny :)

[Robbie67]

114. You're entitled to your opinion

I find Shearer hilarious, talented (I seriously doubt he's not involved in Simpson's script chnages, and you do all those voices), and I find his show (a show more about media than anything else) extremely satirical and humorous. I also enjoy his taste in music for the show...a very eclectic collection.

[montanacowboy]

15. Last night he was on Olberman

and trashes Kerry -

[Forkboy]

18. I worry more about people looking to comedians for guidance

[chimpy the poopthrower]

22. What is supposed to be so funny about that clip?

Can somebody please explain it to me? It's a guy combing his hair. HAR HAR! :shrug:

It's not like he stuck the comb in his mouth like Wolfowitz.

[NYCGirl]

28. I don't think it's supposed to be funny...I think it's supposed to be an

unfiltered look at political people. Seeing them "off guard" is fascinating; we don't get to see them in their less public moments.

[chimpy the poopthrower]

40. Eh. Even from that perspective...

...it's still just a guy combing his hair. I still don't see anything the least bit extraordinary about it. Is there something I'm missing in this that gives us some deep glimpse into Edwards' soul?

Did Harry Shearer himself "expose" this video -- where did it come from?

[NYCGirl]

53. The video is from a satellite wild feed. Here's a 1999 article from salon

that explains much more:
http://archive.salon.com/tech/feature/1999/07/29/wild_feeds/

"I did not wash my hair last night because I felt a certain amount of stiffness was probably healthy," Dan Rather says to a producer as he prepares to go on air with a report from Soweto, South Africa. "What do you think? OK, OK, the question is whether or not to wash it for tomorrow, but we'll make that decision as we go along, I guess."

Such are the weighty choices our news anchors are forced to make from day to day. Rather likely did not expect to be discussing his coiffure on public view, but he is. This peek behind the curtain of the TV news business is known as a "wild feed" -- one of the unscripted, random moments found in the raw satellite transmissions used by TV networks and affiliates to send live sound and video from one location to another. The feeds are sometimes scrambled by the networks. But often they aren't, and they can be intercepted by anyone with a satellite dish who knows where to point it. Wild feeds reveal some of the embarrassingly creaky machinery beneath the high-gloss Oz of broadcast television -- and these days they can be found online.

[Enraged_Ape]

37. I'm sure Shearer thinks it's laugh-out-loud funny

Because Shearer, as I've stated repeatedly, is a pseudocomic, who absolutely must own pictures of a powerful Hollywood agent molesting some kind of farm animal. Nothing else could possibly explain his success in "the business".

[NYCGirl]

47. Perhaps then an art gallery wouldn't be the best place for it?

From the slate article:

He has a particular fascination with silent feeds, and since 1988, he's worked in that medium on HBO, at Los Angeles' Museum of Contemporary Art, and even in the window of Barney's New York. "The whole project," he told me at the opening of "Face Time," "is called 'Non-Talking Heads.' "

Why is the silence so disconcerting? Perhaps because it underscores that these non-talking heads are stuck in a no-man's land that's neither public nor private. Each has his own strategy for negotiating this TV purgatory. Larry King, peering at a monitor off-screen as he waits to go live at Ronald Reagan's funeral, chews popcorn with open-mouthed abandon. He looks like your Great-Uncle Ira pigging out on the Early Bird Special. Peter Jennings, sitting in the ABC newsroom, takes notes and strokes his mouth, not inelegantly. Bill Kristol smiles, and smiles, and smiles, and, finally, gives up. Judy Woodruff, standing outside Boston's FleetCenter during the Democratic convention, knits her brow worriedly. Henry Kissinger looks bored. Newt Gingrich looks tired and eventually closes his eyes. (Is he asleep?) Ralph Nader endures the application of hair spray; God knows what toxic chemicals are contained therein, but it's a small price to pay to change the world. John McCain looks expectant, light shining in his eyes. I'm going to be on television! Paul Begala scowls.

In the raw feeds, the non-talking heads seem both more and less human than they are on "real" television. More human, obviously, in the sense that each has developed an idiosyncratic style of waiting his or her turn. But also less human because every facial expression is placed inside the frame of a TV screen, which in turn is placed inside the larger frame of the work as a whole. These aren't people; they've been cruelly objectified into absurdist art. Sad to say, they are much more compelling in silent repose than they'll ever be once they finally get to speak about the Iraq war, or the budget deficit, or the latest political polls. We'll stop staring as we listen to what they say. But we won't listen very hard.

Edited to add link:
http://www.slate.com/id/2108216/

[hiphopnation]

48. How's this working out for you?

The whole "taste police" thing? Letting the public know when they've completely miscalculated a celebrated career. Good money in that line 'o work? Good luck. :thumbsup:

[Enraged_Ape]

50. Hey, one of your buddies just knocked me for liking...

"Escape from NY".

But last time I checked, neither Kurt Russell, John Carpenter, nor even Adrienne Barbeau dissed our candidate for President, then tried to make our Vice Presidential candidate look like a self-obsessed little priss. Wish I could say the same for your beloved Shearer.

[Forkboy]

52. fuckin comedians!

[Enraged_Ape]

61. I really resent that

To call someone a comedian implies that they are actually, you know, funny.

[Forkboy]

65. well then,rest assured,you have nothing to worry about

[hiphopnation]

57. Hadn't even heard about the great "diss"

until just now, since I don't watch cable news. It's not making any headlines, that I've seen, and I do a pretty thorough round up. So it must really be hurting "our" candidates chances. It's really making some political tidal waves. I'm sure this will sway those four Florida voters teetering on the fence.

BTW, who is this "our" anyway?

[Enraged_Ape]

59. Oh, I'm sorry, I just assumed you were voting for Kerry

I don't know where in the heck I got that idea.

How's Ralph doing these days?

[hiphopnation]

63. BWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAH

You've assumed so much in this little exchange, why stop now?

[Forkboy]

67. This is getting embarrassing

not for me,mind you...I'm loving the show!

[noonwitch]

45. Edwards should just laugh it off, it's the only response that will work

If he tells people that he thinks it's funny, it takes the attack aspect away from it.

[IronElder]

46. Hey, Don't have cow man!

Let's face it Shearer used to be a comedian, now he is little more than a part-time cartoon character. We all know that politicians, and actors put on makeup and do there hair before an appearence..I think we should (NOT) spend our time reacting in a way they want us to react. Think about it

[VOX]

62. Harry Shearer makes **$5.5 million/year** on his "Simpsons" work alone!

This is up from the "paltry" $2.2 million he was making before this year's renegotiation.

I don't begrudge him this {although it's pretty far from hard-earned, and his easy efforts hardly contribute much to the betterment of society}, but Shearer {literally} cashed in his "outsider" status long ago.

As a multi-multi millionaire, he now enjoys the fat-cat tax breaks that the * administration affords him.
- - - - - -
Note -- can't link, these news items are grom a Lexis-Nexis search...
Los Angeles Times
May 1, 2004 Saturday
Home Edition
SECTION: BUSINESS; Business Desk; Part C; Pg. 2
LENGTH: 170 words
HEADLINE: California;
'Simpsons' Cast, Fox Reach Deal
BYLINE: Scott Collins, Times Staff Writer
<snip>
Under the new four-year deal, the cast members will each get approximately $250,000 per episode, or $5.5 million a year, but no profit stake, sources said.

The actors are Hank Azaria, Nancy Cartwright, Dan Castellaneta, Julie Kavner, Harry Shearer and Yeardley Smith.
<snip>

ADWEEK
May 26, 2003 National Edition
LENGTH: 2225 words
HEADLINE: Ay, Caramba!; 'The Simpsons' heads into its 14th year with no end in sight
BYLINE: By Alec Foege
<snip>

Harry Shearer and Hank Azaria-won new contracts in 2001, paying each $100,000 per episode, amounting to $2.2 million per year.
<snip>

[rinsd]

73. Gee how much is Michael Moore worth?

Are we now judging people by how much money they make?

BTW, how much money do you think the Simpsons have brought in over the year? Billions? Keeping Fox Network afloat?

But yeah hate the actors for asking for their due compensation...

The mind boggles...

[VOX]

77. Moore works hard, puts himself on the line, and he hasn't sold out...

Shearer, by contrast, takes no public stand, nor does he put out any discernable efforts to effect a change the horrible direction that his country is headed in.

Shearer is playing it very safe. Of course he is entitled to make all the $$$$$ he wants.

But he used to pose as an outsider in his Credibility Gap days in the 1960s. And now, it appears that he's quite comfortable with things just the way they are. He used to speak out; now, he takes questionable pot-shots {which make terrific fodder for the right wing, by the way) at those who profess to be interested in change.

I do begrudge Shearer that.

[Forkboy]

87. It would appear that you are wrong

see post #78

[Deja Q]

120. That only proves the whole system is asinine.

That or we should all become actors. :eyes:

[Catherine Vincent]

66. Did he put spit in the palm of his hands and spread it on his hair?

[Forkboy]

75. I wonder if the clip was as funny as this thread

:shrug:

[Susang]

80. It's pretty funny

I wish I was in L.A. to see the gallery show. I'll bet it's impressive with all of the feeds going at the same time.

[chimpy the poopthrower]

84. Please explain the joke to me.

It's a guy combing his hair. I'm not saying this just because I like Edwards. I seriously do not understand what's funny about it. If it was a clip of Bush combing his hair I would feel the same way.

[Susang]

88. It's funny in a voyeuristic way

The silence makes it even more so. You aren't supposed to be watching, it's like being on the other side of a bathroom mirror. It's like a window into someone else's vanity. Watching Edwards fight with that one lock of hair made me laugh because I do the same damn thing myself every day. It humanizes the subject while at the same time giving the viewer a sense of watching something that they're not supposed to see.

[Susang]

78. Your critique of his art can kiss my ass!

Why release this before an election? It's fucking art about the election, that's why! It's showing in an art gallery, not on Fox News! If you didn't bother to actually read the article that accompanied the Edwards clip, his other subjects were overwhelmingly conservative, including Newt Gingrich, Henry Kissinger, Larry King, Dick Cheney, among others. I don't they'll be rushing to showcase this clip of Edwards, if they do, there are plenty of clips out there that make them look as ridiculous.

If you had bothered to check Shearere's website, you might have found his video "It's the Stupidity, Stupid", which got him banned from Fox News. It's about how a small amount of people hated the Clintons so much that they made us all have to listen to it for eight years (and how Clinton inadvertantly helped them).

He's a comic and social satirist. He has no obligation to follow your agenda. Edwards wasn't doing anything that any of the other candidates haven't done (those with hair, anyway), so just try to worry about the shit coming from Bush and Cheney and maybe leave the artists alone? Silencing dissenting opinions is not what our side's supposed to be about, after all.

[The Night Owl]

97. Don't put words in my mouth

I never said that Shearer should be silenced. I am merely criticizing Shearer. Perhaps you would like to silence me?

[Susang]

108. You're doing a good enough job of that yourself

So if you are okay with Shearer's work being shown, then what the hell is the point of this thread?

BTW, I would never want you silenced, it is far too much fun arguing with you. You really should post more often.

[The Night Owl]

113. I'll give you an analogy since you still don't get it.

Imagine that someone were to expose embarrassing photos of you. Legally speaking, you might not be able to stop that person from exposing those photos, but does that mean that you should avoid criticizing that person for exposing those photos? Of course not.

Yes, I am okay with Shearer's work being shown. Does that mean I have to like it? No.

Shearer is trying to embarrass Edwards. Why he would do that right before the election is anyone's guess, but my guess is that he wants Bush to win.

[Susang]

127. You are the one who "doesn't get it"

You completely misinterpreted the intent of the project. Edwards (as well as the other subjects) was fully aware he was on camera. All of the people are. If you had read the article, you would have known this. That's why they're silent in the clips, they've learned from other's past pre-show gaffes.

If you think he wants Bush to win, why do you suppose he showed Kissinger, Gingrich and Cheney during their live feeds? Oh right, he must hate Democrats. :eyes:

on edit: Try reading this to see how he really feels about Republicans and Democrats. Then you'll at least know something about his opinions before you judge him. http://www.lacitybeat.com/article.php?id=568&IssueNum=32

[porphyrian]

79. How does that hurt Edwards or Kerry?

People, bush is toast as long as we make sure he doesn't steal it. The sin of the Democratic party is its inability to laugh at itself. Learn to take a fucking joke already.

[Butterflies]

82. The clip is boring. I only made it about half way through.

I don't see it as a big deal - you know they ALL get made up for TV. How insecure of their masculinity do men have to be to see this as a big put-down of Edwards?

[Susang]

85. That's exactly what I thought

When I watched it, I thought: "I mess with my hair more before leaving for work in the morning and I'm not going in front of a camera". Hell, at least he was nice to the stylist. I worked in film and tv and that's more than you can say for many of the "talent". ;-)

[The Night Owl]

101. Google Edwards now

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=edwards

From the above search...

News results for Edwards - View today's top stories
Edwards criticizes Rice over speeches - Seattle Post Intelligencer - 3 hours ago
Right wing flips its wig at Edwards having hairdo - Sydney Morning Herald (subscription) - 5 hours ago

:grr:

[rinsd]

122. Now you can watch it fall....

Now its behind Edwards slams Cheney Scare Tactics and Edwards calls Bush Incompetent headlines.

And it will likely continue to fall.

[ghostsofgiants]

86. Ugh

[Forkboy]

89. LMFAO

:thumbsup:

[The Night Owl]

90. The media never makes mountains out of molehills? Tell that to Dean.

Do I care about Edwards spending a lot of time combing his hair? Of course not. Of course, I also didn't care that Howard Dean sounded silly letting out a scream, but that didn't stop the media from making him a laughing stock.

And, the fact that this thread has exploded so quickly proves how damaging the Edwards clip can be.

[Forkboy]

91. No it proves how idiotic some can be,and how many like to

point out said idiocy.

[ghostsofgiants]

95. Disco!

Now move along folks, nothing to see he...OH MY GOD A HORRIFIC PLANE CRASH! Everyone, gather around. Don't be shy, gather around.

Meh, I'm bored, I'll shut up now.

[hiphopnation]

103. Judging from this thread

you're not the only one. Catch that Yankee/Red Sox game last night?

[ghostsofgiants]

109. Haha, nope.

I loathe baseball and sports in general really. I did however watch the Director's Cut of Donnie Darko, which was quite good.

[hiphopnation]

110. You know

I generally am not much of a sports person myself. I enjoy basketball but have never liked watching baseball on TV and have probably been to five games in my whole life. I'm usually never the one asking other folks about sports, I'm just so curious about the great curse of the bambino and would love to see Boston win it.

[Freddie Stubbs]

98. Dean's chances were over weeks before the Iowa 'scream'

He had already dropped in the polls before this.

[The Night Owl]

99. The media went 24-7 with the Dean scream because he dropped in polls?

Sorry, I don't buy it.

[foo_bar]

107. the media went with it because it was funny

It was like watching an anvil drop on some poor guy's head. That's comedy. If it happens to you, then it's tragedy.

[Freddie Stubbs]

117. No, but the scream was not the reason for the drop in the polls

since it happened BEFORE the Iowa primary.

[Forkboy]

102. How dare you interupt this flame war

by injecting a different flame war into it?!?!?

:spank:

[hiphopnation]

104. LMAO!!

:thumbsup:

Flame War #3: I don't like your screenname. It insults forks and boys at the same time. FOR SHAME!!

[Forkboy]

105. How dare you?!

:D

[Susang]

106. I am furious with your post

It is insulting to dares of all types! :P

[Forkboy]

128. hehe....This thread was way too fun!

:D

[Robbie67]

112. Howard now makes fun of his "scream" for commercials.

Dean may have been exuberant, and a biased media certainly played it up (think Mary Cheney), but that "scream" did nothing to damage Dean. He'll be back.

[Robbie67]

111. Harry Shearer is one of the good guys

please don't make the mistake of hating him

He does a Bush Sr. / Bush Jr. "chat" every couple of weeks. Biting, hard-hitting, and hilarious.

Shearer does Jon Stewart kind of work...you gonna condemn Stewart for his less flattering pieces on Kerry?

Something tells me that Stewart was talking to more than just the Crossfire team.

[Gabi Hayes]

115. A fricking MEN to that

I listen to LeShow just about every week and he is VICIOUSLY antiBush

He almost NEVER even mentions Kerry

you can check harryshearer.com and go to LeShow....check ANY archived show and see for yourself

I'm very sad to see this brouhaha over the Edwards thing, and agree that the timing is not good, to say the least

but rest assured that Shearer is no friend of the fascists.

if you can find it headed in any of the show listings, check out Dick Cheney's Underground Diary: "he's just a heartbeat away....from history."

he's very biting, but it's tempered with great subtlety; dryness along the lines of Spinal Tap

[semillama]

116. It's actually not well known generally,

but Harry Shearer has had a vendetta against Kurt Russell for years. It's gone so far as Shearer sneaking into houses of Russell fans and pissing in their cheerios in the morning. Pretty crazy, but it explains a lot.

No one is quite sure what started the vendetta, but it may have something to do with someone getting fucked because they can't take a joke.

[Robbie67]

119. that's a serious charge

anything to back up that claim?

[hiphopnation]

121. *ahem*

have you read any of this thread?

[Robbie67]

125. I haven't seen a link

that backs up that charge

[Deja Q]

118. Tell him to go back to playing Monty Burns. He can't say anything else

correctly.

Shearer is as much of a repuke as Burns is.

[semillama]

129. I read the whole thread and it's all hilarious

Look - folks are getting all worked up over a relatively unknown comedian playing a clip of Edwards on a website, right? doesn't that strike anyone as just slightly ridiculous? I mean, does anyone seriously think that some undecided voter will somehow be reading Shearer's website, come across that clip and think to themselves "My God! I can't bear to have a vice-president who comes his hair that way! Cheney certainly wouldn't do that!" and then goes and votes for Bush?

Plus, the vehemence of some folks against Shearer is in my OPINION, flatly ridiculous and thus open to ribbing.

"Shearer is as much of a repuke as Burns is" is a prime example of
that. I mean, how many folks here were critical of Edwards during the primary if they were supporting someone else? Are they suddenly as much repukes as Burns?

Also, "fuck 'em if they can't take a joke" should be instruction no. 1 for how to view folks posting on the internet, and I certainly think that applies to me. I've been burned before on taking folks seriously when they weren't, so I usually think carefully about whether or not a person is being serious before extending my head crest in a purple display of outrage. I generally save that for folks like the Ohio Sec. of State, that bastard, why i oughta-
(puffs head crest dramatically)