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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:48 PM
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BBV - Mistakes on San Bernardino County Ballots
SAN BERNARDINO - Many absentee voters in the 31st State Senate and 62nd Assembly districts will receive corrected ballots later this week after the party affiliations of candidates in the two races were left off ballots already mailed.

http://www.pe.com/localnews/sanbernardino/stories/PE_News_Local_bballots06.e98a.html

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harmonyguy Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:12 PM
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1. And, if I'm not mistaken, that was AFTER our pal Scotty
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 01:18 PM by harmonyguy
gave a $400,000 no-bid contract to have them printed properly !

I'll find and post the link.
HG

Edited to add link:
http://www.co.san-bernardino.ca.us/sbco/cob/AG081704/ITM33/W0083201.PDF
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:22 PM
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2. But if we try to observe the process we are...
waging "jihad" or we are "infiltrators"

:eyes:
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harmonyguy Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:29 PM
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3. E-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-h !
Can't we just be waging integrity and credibility?

It's too bad, that they have to couch everything in the common parlance of their 'global war on terror'

HG

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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:30 PM
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4. No kidding re
"too bad, that they have to couch everything in the common parlance of their 'global war on terror'"
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claudiajean Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 03:27 PM
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5. Although I am reveling in Scott's error...
...due to the fact that he's always had an undeserved superior attitude, I think the 400,000K no-bid contract was for sample ballot materials, not the actual ballot mailing.

Nevertheless, there are a truckload of voters (60,000 is a lot) out in San Bernardino County whose voting has been impacted by this error. Not to mention the cost.

(The fact that SB Co. is saying they don't know what the reprint cost will be is a tacit admission that the error was their fault, not the printer's.)
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harmonyguy Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:44 PM
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7. Thanks claudiajean - you're right. Contract was for samples
My mistake - sorry.
HG
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claudiajean Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:51 PM
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10. I'm just totally amazed at all of the good stuff you are digging up....
...in the past couple of days.

My goodness, there's something in the water out there.

Mistakes are a fact of election administration life (there's no such thing as a perfect election), but all of the ballot printing errors make one wonder if the vendors are trying to score points for the DRE's through making the ballot printing porcesses a living hell for the election administrators.
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harmonyguy Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 06:09 PM
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13. Well thanks, I'm getting better at digging.......nt
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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:40 PM
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6. Unless They Have Changed Contractors...
the real ballots for San Berdoo are printed by K&H Integrated Printing Solutions in Everett, WA. This is the Sequoia ballot printer. Remember that Konopacek moved from Snohomish County(Everett), where he was the elections director to San Bernardino.
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harmonyguy Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:46 PM
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8. The samples were from Consolidated Printing
I wondered why the switch from K&H, but then I only just realized that these were the sample ballots.

BTW, why do you folks need sample ballots, anyway?

HG
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:17 PM
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9. Sure...
in case we have to correct voters mistakes. Just kidding.

:shrug:
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claudiajean Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:59 PM
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11. Some states have them because there are so many issues and races on...
...their ballot that folks need to know what-all they will be voting on ahead of time.

Some states, like California and Florida, use sample ballots, other states like Washington and Hawai'i use voter's pamphlets to accomplish the same goal. Voter education and information, essentially.

I know that I need to take a cheat sheet into the booth with me when I vote, as although I have a clear choice in many races, our ballots are really long and crowded, and there's always an obscure judicial race or a housekeeping matter such as an Engrossed Joint House Senate thingamajig that allows the investment of the public employees retirement fund in some way that didn't exist fifty years ago and the description of which is guaranteed to cure insomnia, and after doing all of my homework, there's no way I'll remember my choice without a written list.
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claudiajean Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 06:04 PM
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12. I actually have respect for K&H - I think the mistake is San Bern's...
...or else they wouldn't be "paying". They would make the printer eat the cost.

The K&H crew always seemed like stand-up folks (unlike some printers I could name...)
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