Need help debunking

[urbanguerrilla]

My friend who works at Movie Gallery is getting an advance copy of the Fahrenheit 9/11 DVD tonight, but he's also intrigued by "Fahrenhype 9/11," and is renting that as well. Don't get me wrong, I hang around in a liberal crowd that's voting for Kerry anyway, but I know, just KNOW, that they're going to talk about "Clinton was handed Osama on a platter" meme. Now I'm ready to automatically counter with my "Clinton missed Osama by minutes and Republicans obstructed his fight on terror" counter-attack since I'm really the only active political junkie in the crowd, but I don't really know the specifics of debunking the first one, even though I know it's been debunked here before.

I don't even wanna leave one slither in giving even the smallest victory to the thugs.

Thanks in advance!

[urbanguerrilla]

1. self-kick

[toddzilla]

2. from what i remember..

the person supposedly offering osama, didn't have him and had no credibility that they would even be able to get him. More bullshit.

[NYCGirl]

3. Here's quite a lot on the subject from Joe Conason:

http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2002/01/15/clinton/index.html

Excerpt;

Perhaps the most sensational charge against Clinton to emerge in the months since Sept. 11 is the dubious claim that he somehow let an offer from Sudan to turn over bin Laden slip through his fingers. Sullivan blatantly misrepresents a definitive article that appeared in the Washington Post on Oct. 3, 2001, on this topic. "The Sudanese government offered to hand over bin Laden to the United States," Sullivan writes. "Astonishingly, the Clinton administration turned the offer down." But that phony accusation is exploded by the very first sentence of the Post article, which says only that Sudan offered to "arrest Osama bin Laden and place him in Saudi custody."

Specifically, the Post reported that during secret negotiations in 1996 between American officials and Sudan defense minister Elfatih Erwa, "The government was prepared to place in custody and hand him over, though to whom was ambiguous. In one formulation, Erwa said Sudan would consider any legitimate proffer of criminal charges against the accused terrorist. Saudi Arabia, he said, was the most logical destination." The Post then detailed efforts by the White House and the State Department to induce the Saudis to accept custody of bin Laden, which the authorities in Riyadh adamantly refused.

Nowhere does the Post's carefully worded story state that Sudan agreed to "hand bin Laden over to the United States" -- because that never happened, except perhaps in Sullivan's imagination.

[tishaLA]

4. Tell him or her to read

The September 11th Commission Report, which wholly debunks this piece of RW bullshit.

[Shaowen]

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