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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:03 AM
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What to make of this ????

Considering THIS..sorta recvent news ....
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/06/21/moon/index_np.html

And before that news linked above there was..THIS...
Copied around 1/30/02 from alt. activism

This one's interesting. I've attempted to acquire the FOIA documents
from the IRS and U. S. Treasury for about five months now and have been getting the run-around. "We're unable to locate the records you have requested" and other lies -- when in fact I offered the document number,the date of the document's filing, and other relevant information which pinpointed the documents I was after exactly.
After persisting Iwas informed the documents had been found but that
less than half of it was going to be forwarded by the IRS to the U. S.
Treasury for further culling. The fact is that these documents were
never lost or difficult to find since citizens have been trying to get
a copy of them since the investigation in to the alleged blackmail and
extortion was completed and resulted in the documents being sought.
Now I'll have to file civil redress to obtain documents that by law aresupposed to be released by the IRS and U. S. Treasury after the passage of the Freedom of Information Act. The documents in their complete form contain evidence that should put a number of people away in prison for a long, long time, it is highly suspected, and it is that reason why the documents are being kept from the public, it's further suspected.

-=-

January 24, 2002

Page 1 of 2:

PRESS RELEASE

ATTORNEY GENERAL ASHCROFT REQUESTED TO COMMENCE CRIMINAL AND TERRORIST

INVESTIGATION OF AMERICA'S OWN TALIBAN - THE "CHURCH" OF SCIENTOLOGY,

ITS LAWYERS INCLUDING FORMER LOS ANGELES POLICE COMMISSION PRESIDENT

GERALD CHALEFF, THE LOS ANGELES DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE LOS

ANGELES CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

The United States Attorney General, John Ashcroft, has been requested
to commence an immediate criminal investigation into allegations and
evidence involving the Church of Scientology's seven years of alleged
R.I.C.O. activity against Los Angeles lawyer Graham E. Berry.
The complaint also requests a grand jury investigation of related
public corruption involving certain of the Church of Scientology's
lawyers, former LAPD Sergeant Eugene Ingram, the Los Angeles District
Attorney's Office, the Los Angeles City Attorney's Office and the
State Bar of California.

Mr. Berry's detailed 134 page criminal complaint describes the
activities of a number of Scientology retained lawyers including
former Los Angeles Police Commission President Gerald Chaleff and
former Los Angeles County Criminal Courts Bar Association Donald
Wager.
In addition, the criminal complaint describes egregious conflicts of
interest involving Los Angeles Superior Court judge Alexander
Williams, III, who is no stranger to public controversy involving his
alleged lack of appropriate judicial temperament.
Mr. Berry's complaint also alleges that the Church of Scientology,
certain of its lawyers and private investigators, blackmailed the IRS
Commissioner during the George H. Bush and Clinton Administrations to

grant the Church of Scientology a one billion dollar tax relief

package and tax-exempt status.

Page 2 of 2:

The complaint also details the Church of Scientology's "secret"
written policies in support of terrorism, crime and the totalitarian
take-over of all governments and the elimination of all other
religions.
Of particular note is evidence regarding the use of tax-exempt monies
in Church of Scientology ordered forced abortions and
concentration-like camps on United States soil.
Mr. Berry's letter was also been filed, on January 23, 2002, as an
Exhibit in the case of Barton v. Berry, USBC CD Ca, Case No. ADV
00-02187.

Mr. Berry's criminal complaint and request for criminal investigation
is attracting significant worldwide Internet support and debate
already. It is also expected to receive a number of European
governments. A related Internet petition has gathered nearly 1,000
signatures. The criminal complaints, civil rights complaint, hate
crimes complaint, fraud complaint, request for grand jury proceedings
and criminal investigation may be read at a number of web sites
including:

http://www.lermanet.com/reference/GrahamBerry/criminalcomplaint.htm

http://holysmoke.org/cos/docs/gb-ashcroft-complaint.htm

http://www.freedomofmind.com/groups/scientology/scientology.asp

Further information can be obtained from:

GRAHAM E. BERRY

3384 McLaughlin Avenue
Los Angeles, CA 90066
Phone: (310) 745-3771
Fax: (310) 745-3772
grahameb@aol.com

-- You love drugs! You love drugs, don't you?! You better

not say anything about my mother! Don't you DARE say anything

about my mother! -- Scientology's International President (Audio

files of this nutter at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice

"What is the name of scientology's secret books?" -- a.r.s. query

"Mein Kampf." -- David Rice
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:07 AM
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1. Republicans love law enforcement...
As long as the laws are being enforced on someone else !
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:17 AM
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2. Ridiculous hyperbole
I've studied the claims against scientology very closely and I've come to the conclusion that anti-scientologists are as nutty as they claim the scientologists are.

There's no doubt that their beliefs are totally oddball, but they have a right to believe whatever they want. There have been more deaths associated with Christianity than there have been with scientology, and I do think they are discriminated against. People aren't held there at gunpoint ... adult Americans use their free will to join and stay in, and sometimes leave, that organization. If people are sorry they spent a lot of money on the organization, that's too bad. No one controls their money but themselves. No one MADE them buy all those courses and stuff. It's buyer's remorse, if you ask me.

Leave them alone already. They haven't pulled a "Heaven's Gate" for goodness sake. And no, for the record, I am not and never have been a scientologist.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 01:19 PM
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3. Agree... they may be wacko, but so too are so many "Christian" sects.
and after the state of Texas refused to acknowledge the Unitarian Church-- one of the oldest denominations in the country- as I recall, which included many of the founding fathers.... I've come to the conclusion that this is an orchestrated attempt at moving towards "religious purity" and a true theocracy. People better wake up....
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happynewyear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 01:22 PM
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4. yeah like the "Assembly of God" ?
Ever ran into any of these CULT members that believe in this crap? If not, you have been truly saved. Talk about SICK! Yikes!

:dem: :kick:
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