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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:04 PM
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Time poll is bullshit
here is why:

all the othe polls do not agree with there numbers

Poll was conducted by Schulman, Ronca, & Bucuvalas. What is the reputation of that firm? I don't know

It does not even seem reasonable that the RNC convention would cause that big of a bounce. There weren't that many people who really watched it

I will wait until next week before I trust any poll

Don't forget AOL/Time Warner major bush contributers
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:06 PM
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1. I don't think it's even worthy of notice.
Any poll that differs from the averaged results of other polls by that great a margin is obviously erroneous.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:09 PM
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2. Yeah, I'm fascinated by all the doom and gloom
And I've found a few more people to add to my already bulging ignore list. It isn't surprising to me that I see lots of threads full of "ignored" today. One just has to suss them out a bit in advance.

Lick Laura's Bush - Drop Bush Not Bombs! - FUCK BUSH
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:10 PM
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5. Wait tell the end of next week
I am going to throw so much shit at these chicken littles who are yelling that the sky is falling.

WE HAVE THE ISSUES
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:09 PM
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3. I agree
When I was a clinical chemist we always used controls

In this case the polls and the controls among each other, and time is the only one outside of two standard deviations...

Something does not smell right
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:12 PM
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7. Reflecting opinion or
Leading it. It would not be the first time the polls were used. I remember the 2000 election when ther was a sudden shift to Repubs on Fri-Sun cycle.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:09 PM
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4. There's a rule of thumb I use for polls.
Now, I don't necessarily trust polls, but I could probably never force myself to stop reading them. So, when I see a poll with odd results - the recent CA poll that had Bush within three points of Kerry, for instance - I simply wait for more polls.

The next polls will either confirm the odd poll or reveal it to be an outlier - and generally the latter is the case.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:11 PM
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6. exactly
what I guess is bothering people is the publicity they are giving it

In my view it should motivate us even harder
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:17 PM
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8. Yes. It should make us all the more determined to put egg
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 07:18 PM by elperromagico
on the collective face of the media.

Back in 2000, Gore trailed for most of the election. But the American people still preferred him to George W. Bush when it came time to vote. And I have no doubt that the same will hold true for John Kerry. The only difference will be that, this time, we won't quit until Kerry's in the Oval Office. :D

The media calls elections before they're finished. Democrats don't. End of story.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:23 PM
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9. Of course, even if there was a bounce..
11 points is just silly, but even if there was a bounce, the real point is where the bounce is.

Bush could gain a 25 point lead, but if it is all in red states, so what?
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Jesus H. Christ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:25 PM
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10. As a rule of thumb...
any election poll more than, say, a week before the election is pretty much meaningless. Wait until after the debates before you start paying attention.
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Razoor Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:35 PM
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11. not giving the time poll a second thought
I am still ever confident that we will win in November and Bush's bounce will fade away like they always do. WE have the issues to run on. bush doesnt even have a record to run on. nothing at all except saying 9/11 but that can only go so far but running that into the ground. so dont give up just because of some poll.
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