"Liberals are not for anything that the Bible teaches"

[young_at_heart]

"They are for abortion, gay rights, everything that the Lord Jesus Christ says is wrong. I don't see how a Christian could be a Democrat and feel good about it, when they are for every sinful thing that the Bible says is wrong".

Letter to the Editor in my paper today.

[bossfish]

1. Well, personally...

..I AM for concubines

:)

[drdigi420]

2. You say that like it's a bad thing

[Maeve]

3. Yeah, sinful stuff like taking care of your neighbors...helping the poor

Judging not...all that anti-Christian stuff. :eyes:

[Southpaw Bookworm]

42. Not to mention

... Loving the little children
... Doing unto others as you would have them do to you
... Turning swords into plowshares
... Condemning those who would make riches from religion
... Healing the sick

Man, looks like we're going straight to the lake of fire!

:eyes:

[NMDemDist2]

4. remove the beam from your own eye

before you look for the mote in mine.

didn't Jesus say to give to the poor? and love thy neighbor as thyself?

leviticus (the only book in the Old Testament that mentions homosexuality that i have heard) also says it's ok to sell your daughter, to kill anyone who touchs shellfish or pork

google the "letter to Dr Laura" and you'll get a few more "biblical" issues

[dbt]

5. Please help educate a heathen.

I need chapters and verses where Jesus says abortion and gay rights are wrong. I thank you in advance for your help.

:hi:
dbt

[politicat]

21. He didn't.

However, he did say some nice things about Judge not, lest ye be judged (Matt. 7:1), to pray only quietly and secretly (matt 5:7) and not parade one's faith in the streets (or the papers, I guess); to no be boastful (Matt 6:1-3), avoid hypocrisy (Matt 7:3-4), to encourage progressive taxation (Mark 12:42-44 - the Widow's mite story); treat others as you wish to be treated (Luke 6:31-34) and be merciful (Luke 6:36)

Jesus never mentions either - all mentions of homosexuality are by Paul (and we know what a flake paul was); and all of the abortion discussion are in the old testament. Both quites, as it happens. Exodus 21:22-23 "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life."

Hosea 13:16 "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up."

Now, that latter one makes me think that abortion is okay if god is using it against his enemies.

Yeah. I'm cynical about the bible.

Pcat

[Sandpiper]

6. When did Jesus ever talk about

Gays or abortion?

[JHB]

7. I don't believe "the Lord Jesus Christ" said one word about...

...abortion or gay rights.

He DID talk a lot about compassion, humility, forgivness, and something about turning the other cheek, seven time3s, or seventy times seven, as need be.

If the writer doesn't see how a Christian could be a Democrat and feel good about it, maybe s/he should try becoming both (because s/he's obviously neither).

[KitSileya]

39. Wonderful retort.

If the writer doesn't see how a Christian could be a Democrat and feel good about it, maybe s/he should try becoming both (because s/he's obviously neither).

Good one! I absolutely agree.

KitSileya
-Christian, Democrat, and able to let people be both, either, or, or none.-

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. Whoever wrote it doesn't read much of the Bible.

I'm not a Christian, but the teachings of Jesus (the parts not rehashed by Paul) certainly strike a chord with this Democrat/Socialist.

Jesus had a few unkind words to say about the rich and powerful and a lot of fine things to say about caring for the poor and powerless.

[Kid_A]

9. Your paper needs a better screening process for the letters they get.

My local paper would NEVER print a letter with a 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC return address on it.

[johnnie]

16. Heh..funny

Took me a second.

[Texasgal]

10. Ummm...., which bible would they be referring too?

I have often corrected my conservative/babtist family on misinformation regarding the bible. Babtists are the very worst! ( I hope I have not offended any Babtist folks out there) My family's church is SOUTHERN BABTIST.

[forgethell]

15. If you grew up in the Baptist church

why don't you know that it is spelled 'Baptist'?

Just curious.

[politicat]

24. because there's a huge difference between BaPtists and BaBtists.

The former are excellently represented by Jimmy Carter.

The latter are like my father - beat the wife, beat the kids, lie at work, steal from the boss, cheat on your wife, father illegitimate children and pay for a couple of abortions, pay child support on the others that their mothers want to keep at the expense of your legitimate children's well being, raise hell, drink to excess, cuss, and be a general tartar and cuss Monday through Saturday, and go to meetin' clean and cheery on Sunday morning and be certain that god's going to love you.

That's the difference.

Pcat

[PA Democrat]

11. How about this for a response

As a Christian and a Democrat, might I remind you of the wisdom of Matthew, chapter 7:

Judge not lest ye be judged. For as ye judge, so shall ye be judged. And with what measure ye mete, with the same shall it be measured to you again. Why seest thou a mote in thy brother's eye, and perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or why sayest thou to thy brother: suffer me to pluck out a mote out of thine eye, and behold a beam is in thine own eye. Hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pluck out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

[AntiCoup2K4]

38. Verily

Yea, I could not hath said it better myself

[GiovanniC]

12. One of My Religious Coworkers

Was complaining about how the Democrats always want to raise taxes to fund stupid things like -- I'm not making this up -- Education. He's a Repub but he goes by the Libertarian belief that government should not fund any education, that it should all be up to local communities.

I asked him who's face was on the dollar bill. He looked at me strange and said, "Why?"

I asked him again.

"George Washington."

"Then render unto Washington what is Washington's and quit complaining about teaching second graders multiplication."

He wasn't very impressed.

[Kanary]

13. That's hilarious. They pride themselves on their biblical knowledge,

then show their complete ignorance of what is actually written there.

I guess, besides the collection plate, they also collect brains so they won't be used. :crazy:

:grr:

Kanary

[shraby]

14. Part of the ten commandments

Thou shalt not kill.

Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Thou shall not steal.

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Which ones did the Republicans obey at their convention?????

[Kanary]

20. How 'bout...... "Thou shalt have no other God before me"?

The way they worship $$$$ certainly won't be going over so good when they get to the golden gates....

~~guffaw~~

Kanary

[devinsgram]

17. Please show where in the Bible where Jesus said that.

[Beaverhausen]

18. jesus thought taxes were OK too-and separation of church and state

Render unto Caeser that which is Caesers'
and render unto the Lord that which is his

[johnnie]

19. My favorite passage has always been...

"When thou thinkith someone might do thy harm, slaughter them like a lamb. Then slaughter any man, woman, and child who is in the same land as that person. To be sure that his sins will never cometh upon thee, slaughter a few hundred thousand more in other countries. If any man questions you, cast them down beneath thee, for they are not lovers of God"

[Selwynn]

28. Can I get a reference?

[johnnie]

30. Sorry

I guess I should have added <sarcasm:off>

[Kanary]

22. I hope you're getting some good fodder for a reply

If not, try Jim Wallis' website.... you ought to find some *really* good ones there.

:hi:

Kanary

[young_at_heart]

25. Yes, except this person would never listen to me

Here's some more of what he said, "The way I think about it is this: If they are not for the things of Jesus, I am not for them". This person is so brainwashed that it would be useless, I believe, to try and change his mind. What I will do, however, is complain to the editor about printing such stupidity.

[Kanary]

26. I will understand whatever you do. We all only have so much energy.

However, in this case, *I* certainly wouldn't see it as an attempt to educate this poor excuse for a human. I would look at it as an opportunity to speak to those who also read that ignorant "letter", and may not see the other side of it.

Kanary

[young_at_heart]

32. Good point!

Thanks for you input.

[UdoKier]

23. I'm for anything in the Bible that correlates with logic and common sense.

IE: The Golden Rule - Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself

If it conflicts with common sense, logic and human rights, it belongs in the trash can.

You can have mumbo jumbo in your house, but I will have no part of it.

[Selwynn]

27. Jesus never said a word on abortion or homosexuality... he did...

...say some words about being peacemakers, non-violence, and care-taking of the poor and "least of these."

[leesa]

29. The Lord Jesus Christ never said any of those things were wrong

I wish these idiots would actually READ their bibles.

[mitchum]

31. A stupid letter writer who listens to con men in collars....

rather than the words of the Nazarene

[CBHagman]

33. There's virtually nothing in the Bible about abortion.

However, it is possible to make both a pro-life and a pro-choice case based on Scripture. For example, in the Old Testament (one of the books of the law; I forget which one), it says that a woman who is injured by another person and miscarries must be compensated, but there is no suggestion that the miscarriage is an actual murder.

The Old and the New Testament have passages that could be useful to pro-lifers, such as the Gospel passage on St. John the Baptist leaping for joy within his mother's womb.

However, there are plenty of devout people who are also pro-choice (Orthodox Jew Joe Lieberman, for example).

The Gospels contain no passages on homosexuality, though there's a lot on the spiritual dangers of being judgmental, feuding, lack of generosity to the poor, etc. The entire book of Matthew in particular is full of things that ought to make a lot of us squirm.

[tandot]

34. another freeper who apparently thinks Jesus talks to him

hey freepers, take your meds for God's sake...

These idiots don't even know what 99% of the Bible says.

I don't know how a Christian could be a Republican and feel good about it...with Bush killing all those innocent Iraqi babies and all their families.

[library_max]

35. Read 'em the Beatitudes.

Christ's commandment to love your neighbor as yourself.

Christ's admonition to the rich man to sell all that he has and give the money to the poor.

"You cannot serve both God and mammon."

"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's." I love reminding right wingers that Jesus was pro-taxes! He also made a tax collector one of his twelve apostles.

[VOX]

36. Yeah. We liberals do such un-biblical stuff like feed the hungry...

and build shelters for the homeless; fight for the rights of those less fortunate; spend time in AIDS hospices; comfort the elderly; ensure that the mega-wealthy are held accountable; fight for peace instead of war; look for the good in all people; want safety, education and health for our children; and believe that government can actually affect society for the good.

Nah, you won't find a word about any of these in the Bible! :evilgrin:

[slojim240]

37. If they can show me one place were Jesus talked about homsexuals

abortions I'll vote for Bush. I can show them where Jesus did say you should pay taxes (render unto Caesar) ans where he did pay taxes. In fact, his family was on their way to pay taxes and be counted in the census.

[Disturbed]

40. Language.

Why does Old English make the statements in the bible sound so religious? Ya know, the "thou","thine", "spaketh" etc.

Until I was about 14 I thought that was how the folks at that time actually spoke. ;)

[Nevernose]

44. "Thou" and "you" had different connotations

Thou and you were hopelessly mangled in the Middle English period, but, in essence, thou was a way of addressing commoners and you was a way of addressing nobility. Also, the King James Bible to which you are referring ("'thou', 'thine', 'spaketh' etc.") is considered Modern English, not Old English. It's not a separate language, since we can easily understand it, unlike Middle and Old English.

Just thought I'd throw that in there -- I have to justify all of those outstanding student loans somehow, right? I wonder if I could get a government grant to support my habit of ranting about linguistic trivia on the Internet...

[thebeaglehaslanded]

41. Those child-molesting priests read the Bible often...

and yet the Bible didn't seem to stop them from doing sinful things. Just goes to show you that even professed Christians can be for sinful things "that the Bible says is wrong".

[sweetheart]

43. faith hope and love these three

but the greatest of these is love.