Challenge the Rigged Voting Machines

[Proud_Lefty]

I just went to a meeting where a DVD featuring Bev Harris and the problems with these machines were featured. As the election gets closer, and the Bush administration still has yet to even offer any plan for any of the issues, I'm becoming increasingly convinced they don't care because they already have it rigged through the voting machines. We see it coming. Can we stop them at the pass?

Is there any way we can organize and reach out to others to tabulate and count our own votes? We can carefully document the names and numbers, and if their numbers are less, in any given county or precinct, we can challenge their totals. It's a tremendous undertaking throughout the entire country, but wouldn't it worth it? It's not scientific or under any particular legislation, but neither are this privately owned voting machines.

Your thoughts?

[Eric J in MN]

1. I want a group to pay Zogby to do exit polling on Election Day

so that if the Republicans steal the election, we'll know it.

Also, realistic testing of electronic voting machines on Election Day.

[NoMoreMrNiceGuy]

2. Remeber when the exiting polls out of FL correctly said Gore won...

the ministry of truth quickly put out that exiting polls are not to be trusted anymore....gee they worked for decades but now they are not to be trusted. We need hard documentation. This is very scary folks and we haven't given this topic enough of our time...I'm guilty too. One thing is for certain if they steal this election there will more people in the streets than you saw in NY today...they better realize that.

[shance]

3. Can we purchase the video for screening parties?

However late in the game it is still a good idea to continue to inform friends and family and spread the word about this issue, because it will not be going away after the election. Of course, the more information that is known about electronic voting and the potential for fraud, the more it will raise much needed concern about the vulnerability of the upcoming election and elections to come if we continue to utilize a voting method that has proven to be unsatisfactory.

Also, especially for us here in California, its important we contact our respresentatives, the Secretary of State's office and the Attorney General's office to ask why these machines are going to be allowed in our election, even with all the information including the GEM's gliches which reveal the ease of breaking into the balloting data and manipulating the results. It's been proven through the work of Bev Harris, Andy Stephenson, and others that there is no logical reason for these machines to be in use.

It also would seem to be a violation of the Voting Rights Act by allowing the tabulation of votes through *invisible* computer tabulation, because it lacks the mandatory transparency standard that is required by law, which states that counting votes must entail full independent supervision from the original casting of the vote to the final tabulation.

[Proud_Lefty]

4. I'll try to find where the DVD can be bought

Probably through Bev Harris' website. There were several suggestions today about voting absentee and bringing another copy to polls on election day. But others in the group saw not much help in that tactic as the pollster would just put it into that invisible not traceable voting machine for you.

As concerned as people are, and as many people as there are that are willing to donate their time, you would think we would insist on counting at least the democratic votes (since people voting democrat will be adamant that their vote is counted) precinct by precinct so any low ball numbers could be easily challenged.

It might be too much to undertake, but if Bush wins through cheating
AGAIN, something's gonna happen, and I'm sure you're right that the NY protest today will pale in comparison.