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serryjw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 01:44 AM Original message |
What is AFFORDABLE healthcare? |
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4morewars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. For starters : |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 01:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Also, hospitals should be NO-FRILLS. |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Some of that "crap" is important to mental health |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Put in a window with a tree outside. |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Clearly, you aren't able to hear what I'm saying. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 01:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
34. There is a limit to everything. Why you defend wasteful spending.. |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 01:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. As I said, you are clearly too angry to hear. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 01:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Angry? I'm not the one hurling insults. |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Yes, your anger shows right from the first post, and the insults |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I am angry at healthcare being unaffordable due to gouging. |
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politicat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Japan has "socialized medicine." |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Well, it's quasi-socialized. |
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politicat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
47. I read it; doesn't seem that outstanding... |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Thank you, politicat. There's obviously something else going on here |
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poliguru (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. This is very true |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 08:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. I'm sure there is lots of research to make the case quite adequately. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. By the way, I totally agree with you RE premature discharges. |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 10:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
61. No, it's related to the exorbitant greed of the insurance companies. |
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4morewars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Miami Children's Hospital... |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. The treatment there was excellent, but how much more could they do... |
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pstokely (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 07:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
56. they are going after the rich |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 08:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
30. Much of that kind of hospital spending |
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serryjw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Actually MORE! |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Yes I do.. in 1980 |
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LibraLabSoldier (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. It is perfectly doable. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. We live in San Francisco on just under 30K |
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rsmith6621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. What about Pharmacy Companys |
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poliguru (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 03:04 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Giving away those samples is important |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
51. I don't have a problem with samples per se... |
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serryjw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-28-04 12:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
62. Absolutely CORRECT! |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 09:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
32. How?? |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. As I said, we're not doing too well... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
4. Median wages $33,000 |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. Two ways to approach it.. |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 07:50 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. Your first plan leaves out ANYONE who is NOT EMPLOYED. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 08:04 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I "assumed" that unemployed people would be covered |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 08:21 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Yes, many Dems "assume" that everyone is taken care of. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 08:24 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Of course it matters |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 08:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Once again, you have assumed incorrectly. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 08:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I only "know" from personal experiences.. |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 08:43 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Then those people are lucky indeed. |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 09:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. My neighborhood "non-profit" catholic hospital |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 09:27 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Thank you for speaking the truth! |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
10. What is affordable depends on where you are on the ladder.. of course |
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LibraLabSoldier (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:26 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. As citizens of the Richest country on earth.... |
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DeadHead67 (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 03:08 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. My Doc' doesn't charge me for office visits. . . |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 08:58 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Personal solutions solve nothing. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
41. In a sampling of 225 nation's infant mortality rate, a measure |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 03:29 AM Response to Original message |
20. Universal health care should be like Social Security |
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flaminbats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 09:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
60. Republicans see COBRA as just another handout! |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
39. Well, I think we need a single payer system for health care. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Of course we do. It works great all over the world. |
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MissMarple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
44. U.S. is so large and diverse single payer probably won't work. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 03:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Better minds than any of ours have figured out over |
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MissMarple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Americans want a lot of different things re health care. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Apparently you haven't bothered to look at the website. |
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MissMarple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. So, wave a magic wand, mine's broken right now. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Social Security works fine for my husband and me. |
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MissMarple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 07:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Privatization S.S. and Medicare would be a terrible idea. |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 06:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Sarcasm *always* helps to get health care. |
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MissMarple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 07:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. You don't like Harry Potter? |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-27-04 08:03 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Theoretically, we're all on the same side here. |
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MissMarple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-28-04 01:31 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. So...if Cleita's wand works better than mine, I'm uncivil. |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-28-04 01:39 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. grip yourself, sweetie |
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MissMarple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-28-04 01:49 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. You just hate it when I say that. |
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CHIMO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-28-04 02:16 AM Response to Original message |
66. Good Health |
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