Has it occurred to you that the CIA Czar post is the End of America?

[UdoKier]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040823/ap_on_go_co/intelligence_reform&cid=512&ncid=716

WASHINGTON - Senate Intelligence Committee Republicans proposed removing the nation's largest intelligence gathering operations from the CIA and the Pentagon (news - web sites) and putting them directly under a new national intelligence director.


Is it just me that thinks this is the biggest power grab and shift into full-on fascism this country has ever seen?

Think about it. In spite of the Bushies attempt to BLAME the CIA for all the "faulty intel" about WMDs, we all knew two years ago that the CIA's intel at best showed a POSSIBILITY of SOME WMD development, MAYBE. But the Bush administration liquid papered out all the doubt-signifying qualifiers, cherry-picked the intel, combined it with absolute garbage Cheney badgered out of the guys at the Pentagon, and a bunch of obvious lies from Chalabi & Co. to make their (still pathetically flimsy) case for war.

But under the new system, you have a czar, appointed by the president, briefed daily by the president, beholden to the president, and whose agency will essentially become an organ of the executive branch.

Aren't thay just trying to create a "new CIA" that will answer only to them, and ALWAYS give them the intel they WANT, paving the way for successive wars of aggression in the future?

Am I a crackpot, or am I just stating the painfully obvious?

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

1. ?

>and whose agency will essentially become an organ of the executive
>branch

They already *are* an organ of the executive branch.

[UdoKier]

2. Technically, yes

But I mean more as in "personal toy of the president".


The present CIA has some autonomy and integrity. It serves the country before the president, doesn't it? Why do I suspect that the new one will simply be a huge Oval Office dirty tricks crew?

[T Bone]

3. I always thought the president was supposed to be intelligence czar?

I thought it was the president's job to assess the intellugence from ALL the various sources and make policy and executive decisions in that capacity?

Oh that's right we have a FUCKING INCOMPETENT in that position right now, who is UNACCOUNTABLE and wants to insert yet another layer of bureaucratic UNACCOUNTABILITY between the intelligence and HIS DECISIONS about it.

I say we elect John Kerry the new intrelligence czar !!!

GET US A MAN WHO HAS THE BRAINS AND ABILITY TO DO THE FUCKING JOB !!

VOTE JOHN KERRY !!

[Nordic]

4. "I say we elect John Kerry the new intrelligence czar !!!"

Right on! The Dems need to use that line!

[Syncronaut Seven]

5. It's not just you.

This is the biggest power grab and shift into full-on fascism this country has ever seen.

Whatever the outcome, it will fundamentally change the nature of our country forever. :scared:

Our only hope of salvation is a fully informed and participatory democracy. Until we wean ourselves from the glass tit and identify what's really important to us, that ain't gonna happen.

[Nordic]

6. you're stating the obvious, but nobody else is stating it

so it's very important that somebody bring this up.

It's very scary.

Just today I saw these news stories on republicans wanting this, and it did set off a red flag. "hm, if republicans want it, why?"

Obviously they're up to no good, and you totally nailed it.

The whole point of the spooks and analysts at the CIA is that they're supposed to be truthseekers and give the classified truth to the people in charge so they'll know what to do with it.

Of course Bush/Cheney changed all of that with the whole "let's invade Iraq" plot.

[ComerPerro]

7. Check it out, I found someone that Bush might want to appoint

http://www.holonetnews.com/50/news/1344_3.html

The name is Armand Isard.

SBI CENTRAL, CORUSCANT - Armand Isard, Director of the Senate Bureau of Intelligence, has been empowered by the Supreme Chancellor's Loyalist Committee to reform the Republic's largest intelligence organization in light of increased security concerns.

"For too long the unscrupulous have been taking advantage of chinks in the bureau's armor. I say, ‘no more.' The SBI will be a vital weapon in the fight against those who would fragment our Republic, and not a tool of convenience for the wealthy and corrupt," said Isard.

To that end, Isard has formed a Crisis Branch, a temporary division of Intelligence historically created when the need arises. Running this new branch is a committee of hand-picked Intelligence subdirectors from planetary bureaus throughout the Core Worlds. This is the first time in over 60 years that a Crisis Branch has been formed.

The first act of the Crisis Branch has been the firing of 32 remote intelligence subdirectors throughout the Mid Rim, an area Isard described as "rife with corruption."

"There comes a time when a structure is so riddled by greddleback bugs that you have to tear it down and build anew. If that what it takes to root out the corrupt, that's what I will do," said the determined Isard.



I found this site when I googled "Armand Isard", the Palpatine-appointed head of Imperial intelligence in the Star Wars Universe.

Creepy, isn't it?

[Tsiyu]

8. No, The Repukes are the Crackpots

Millions of them ready to hand over their freedom on a silver platter to the men Jeebus put in power. THEY are the crackpots.

We stare in disbelief at the way the Bushistas are blatantly raping America, and beating the hell out of her before they finish up. But the slackjawed, zombie Right seems to be in LaLa Land, expecting Jeebus' men to care for each and every one of their itty bitty souls.

I don't understand either, but just be glad you aren't alone....


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