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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:07 PM Original message |
BBV: Report from last Wednesdays meeting with the Secretary of State Ca. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. so what's your next move? |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I would tell you...but then |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Well Good Luck... |
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greatauntoftriplets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. If I know this guy.... |
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mbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Has Bev talked to the Kerry people about this. Stephanie Cutter |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. We are quite accessible... |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. Have you tried to contact FL Sen. Graham, author of voting reform bill? |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. Is there any legitimate reason for a "second set of books?" |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. No there isn't...but this report does not mention |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Unbelievable! Why aren't our Democratic Senators screaming about this? |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. It is part of the solution but not the only one. |
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donkeyotay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 02:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. this is the biggest Republican twofer ever |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. GbnC, I have a question regarding opti-scan machines. |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. No it will not solve it. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
6. it must certainly be frustrating to see it moving so slow |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:19 PM Original message |
Criminals hiring criminals and and theft facilitated by government |
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
42. that's business as usual for this cabal for the last 50 years n/t |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
7. You are not wrong |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. "He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, |
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Boredtodeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Perhaps it has something to do with |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Bev did not "call him out" |
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Boredtodeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. OK, if you say so |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 12:03 AM Response to Reply #24 |
56. Why would Bev 'call out' someone who has been an eloquent....... |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. Kevin Shelley has been under constant fire for a couple weeks |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Shelley started caving in around the same time |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. No one believes that Assnold is really our Governor. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 10:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
55. They'd need to rig a helluva lot of machines to give Bush CA. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. No shit. |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. and "Recounts" are Done with The Same Optical Scan Machines |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. From precinct walking the past few weeks, it seems |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Absentee is no safer... |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Absentee ballots would provide a paper trail, which could be hand counted |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. The laws in most states do not allow the hand counting... |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. The absentee ballot would be a paper ballot, wouldn't it? But in FL, NO |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. In 2000, Katherine Harris instructed counties that a recount was not an |
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RedEagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 12:30 AM Response to Reply #41 |
57. Can you source that? |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 12:51 AM Response to Reply #41 |
59. Read this and tell me what you think. |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
25. This account is a little inaccurate..... |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Question: Who all would have access to the machine running GEMS? |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 07:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. As an example...in King county Washington... |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Do all opti-scan systems have this fatal flaw, i.e., Accu-Vote Optical Tab |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. If the system is feeding votes into the GEMS server |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Do all the opti-scan systems use the GEMS server? Or just Diebold? |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. No only Diebold |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. That's a really good question, no one really seems to know! |
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nofurylike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
31. have you met with Jimmy Carter on this? |
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. I was just going to post the same. take it to Jimmy Carter-- |
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Also go on AIR AMERICA with it and try O'Lielly & Hannity- they cant |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I contacted the Carter Center. org prior to the 2002 elections..... |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Pat...it is up to all of us now... |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 09:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Not after what I've seen! |
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SophieZ (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. There is one possible last ditch plan. |
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hedda_foil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 07:35 PM Response to Reply #53 |
72. Yep, Ellen and Voters Unite are working with |
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nofurylike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 01:56 AM Response to Reply #44 |
60. ** !! URGENT!!** you all have worked incredibly hard |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. meeting with eh people being leaned on |
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
43. G_dBushnCheney - so what do we do to help? how can we |
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. GBNC Course after they change results, someone coud have our own hackers c |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. There is no place in a Democratic Republic |
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 09:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. GNBC- there is nothing honest about these globalists - the intent |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 09:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I have to go with Andy on this one...... |
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Zan_of_Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 12:41 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Intent is world domination and they don't play with integrity and honesty. |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 08:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Well our investigations are not free. |
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-22-04 09:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. GBNC - I volunteered to Bev's e mail & never heard back about |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
62. No one will take this seriously, but I'm going to try again anyway..... |
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cthrumatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. we need to raise the tone of our outrage immdeiately or another |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. If enough people participate in a week long general strike and consumer |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Good luck trying to organize that....... |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 06:19 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Pat, the problem is that the republicans will not take any |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. "I guess it is just best to sit back and relax on the couch,....... |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-04 04:46 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Pat: I understand that hacking an election is wrong. But the fact is: |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
64. Two Questions |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. The members of the VSP considered it a closed, private meeting..... |
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Zan_of_Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. A similar dodge was used in Georgia. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-23-04 06:37 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Looking for one brave election official... |
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