Howard Dean - Classy and Gutsy

[mandyky]

From the Dean blog -
"a veteran of WWII who was passionately against the war in Iraq asked the governor, 'Will you be the first one to stand up and tell the parents of those slain soldiers how senseless it was."

"And the governor looked straight at him and said 'No sir. I will not, and I'll tell you why. I would never exploit or intrude on the grief of anyone.'"

For the media - that definitely ain't pandering!

[Bombtrack]

1. why do you have an anti-DLC signature, when Dean is a DLC dem?

just curious

[pruner]

2. how do you figure…

when the DLC and DLC candidates (read: Lieberman) are busy issuing statements every day proclaiming that Dean's left-wing policies are gonna hurt the Party's chances at winning the White House?

[Bombtrack]

8. Lieberman did that on his own

he didn't have to ask anyone's permission

and he said that Dean was unelectable because that is what he believes, and what most people who've assessed the situation well enough believe

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[Cha]

12. No! Most People do Not "assess" that!

And lieberman is a puke ..I wouldn't listen to what he says about the weather.

[w4rma]

22. Lieberman did that with Al From's and Bruce Reed's support, IMHO

An internal Democratic Leadership Council memo leaked to press on May 14 says:

"But the great myth of the current cycle is the misguided notion that the hopes and dreams of activists represent the heart and soul of the Democratic Party."

Al From, founder and CEO of the Democratic Leadership Council and Bruce Reed, President of the DLC, yesterday circulated this memo to “Leading Democrats” in which they argue that traditional Democratic values are “an aberration” and that the thousands of grassroots Democrats inspired by Governor Dean’s message to “take back our party” are “activist elites” and not “real Democrats.”

This vicious attack was not just an attack on Howard Dean, but an attack on the very people who care about health care for all Americans, who care about adequate funding for school boards, and who care that this country provide moral leadership in the international community.

We need your help to respond now. Tell the Democratic Leadership Council today that this kind of divisiveness will not win back this country.
https://secure2.convio.net/dfa/site/SPageServer?pagename=copy_of_takebackdemocrats

DLC | Memo | May 15, 2003
The Real Soul of the Democratic Party
By Al From and Bruce Reed
http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=251690&kaid=127&subid=900056

[Cha]

3. Why don't you know that Dean can't be labeled?

[poskonig]

4. Dean is more represenative of the DLC's rank'n'file

rather than the DLC's inept leadership.

[UnapologeticLiberal]

21. This may be true

We had a big rally for Dean to coincide with the DLC National Conversation in Philly, and afterwards we went and mingled with some of them at the Irish Pub. A lot of them were interested in Dean and seemed receptive. It is just their leadership (From and Reed) whom I don't like. Most of the delegates to the convention, which included a lot of state and national elected officials from all over, seemed pretty cool, and they definitely seemed like regular Democrats...not Republican-lite. The ones I talked to were just as angry at how much the Bush administration is screwing this country over as we are.

[mandyky]

6. Because of two statements the DLC made about

my man Howard!

[Bombtrack]

9. So if a yankee bench coach critisized Soriano,

it means soriano isn't a yankee?

[Cha]

10. Not a good analogy! Dean is not an Al From or Bruce Reed

kinda guy. They act like they are scared of Dean.

[Bombtrack]

17. Alot of DEMOCRATS are scared of Dean

including myself

Democrats who want deperately to beat Bush and not hand him another term, should be scared of Dean

his nomination scares democrats, and excites republicans

what a good sign!

[Cha]

18. No! A lot of Democrats "aren't scared" of Dean....just the scaredy

cats!

Dean has guts! We're the brave ones who want him and know he can win!

[KaraokeKarlton]

23. Dean will hand Bush his ass on a platter

I say that as someone from Vermont who knows what kind of a politician, leader and campaigner Howard Dean is. Dean is a centrist and always has been. So am I. The only people who won't support Dean are the fringe radicals on both sides. I do see the potential for a landslide...but it'd be a landslide in Dean's favor.

Do NOT fear Civil Unions. In fact, you should be praying that Bush and Rove are dumb enough to make it an issue. It will backfire and be a re-play of what happened in Vermont in 2000. Let them stir up hate from the far right and let them spout it all over. The reaction of the rest of the country will be complete and utter disgust. People who opposed Civil Unions here were a heck of a lot more offended by the hatred coming from the right than they were by Civil Unions and they re-elected Dean. On top of that, Dean has experience defending Civil Unions. He CAN sell gay rights and responsibilities to middle America and win. With all the new voters Dean is energizing all over the country, if the Democratic party unites behind him he CAN'T lose.

[mandyky]

14. When I say DLC, I mean From and Reed, just like

when I say DNC, I mean Terry the idiot MacAulliffe, and their leadership, not the members.

[Cha]

5. Now back to the subject at hand! That was a Way "Classy"

thing to say! Damn! Dean says just the right words to crystal the "grief" of those Poor People!

And I know he's "gutsy", too! ONe of the main things I love about the man. :kick:

[donco6]

7. Great comeback

Very intelligent answer.

[Demobrat]

13. Dean is a Doctor. He was seen death and grief up close and pesonal.

Unlike George I-live-in-a-bubble-Bush.

[DEM FAN]

15. And The NEXT President Of The United States.

;-)

[diamondsoul]

16. Not bad at all.

I think I agree with what someone else said, his experience as a physician gives him a real sense of the realities and difficulties of grieving.

[caledesi]

19. Now that is TOTAL class! I love this guy!

[JNelson6563]

20. excellent response

Funny to see the bitterness of an anti-Deanite even on a topic where it wouldn't hurt a bit to concede that indeed, this was a classy way to answer.

Ah smallness abounds!! And it ain't just the neo-cons!!

Julie

[mandyky]

24. Early estimates from Seattle are in

15-frigging-thousand people!