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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 07:56 AM
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Michelle Malkin's Take On Chris Matthews Show
AMBUSH JOURNALISM...OR MY EVENING WITH CAVEMAN CHRIS MATTHEWS
By Michelle Malkin · August 20, 2004 02:34 AM

Here's a peek behind the cable TV curtain. It's not pretty.

So, my publicist arranges for me to go on MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews on Thursday night to talk about my recent columns on the FBI and national security profiling and my new book. Despite the show's basement ratings, we figure it's a good opportunity to reach out to a new audience. FOX News, with whom I have a contract, has generously allowed me to appear on some competing networks to talk about the book. Thursday was the second to the last day that I could make such appearances.

A few hours before the show, a producer calls to tell me I will be on for two segments--the first topic will be the Swift Boat Veterans, the second topic will be related to the book. Fine. This is the news business. I understand the need to go with the flow and cover the hot issues of the day. I am prepared to discuss both topics.

In a pre-interview, the producer goes over general questions about Kerry's response to the Swift Boat vets, whether the charges will be an issue in the presidential debates, and the basic themes of my book and its implications for the current War on Terror. I am originally scheduled to be on with the Washington Post's Dana Milbank. This was scratched and I am informed at the last minute that the other guest will be former San Francisco mayor Willie Brown.

As I am seated at the table with Matthews, who I am meeting for the first time, he cracks a joke--and not in a well-meaning way--about how I look. (There are quite a few people who are hung up on this.) "Are you sure you are old enough to be on the show? What are you? 28?" I grit my teeth. He badgers me again with the same question. I politely answer his question and supply my age.

(I wonder how Matthews' wife, the respected TV journalist Kathleen Matthews, who hosts a show about working women, would react if informed about her husband's treatment of a fellow female journalist. I've been in the business a dozen years and would be happy to talk to Mrs. Matthews about my firsthand experience with Neanderthal chauvinism in the workplace.)

Needless to say, things went downhill, fast and loud, from there.

1) Matthews introduces me, says we'll get to the subject of my book "in a minute," and launches into a spiel about how Bush should order the Swift Boat Vets to stop running their ads. Matthews intentionally mischaracterizes me as "speaking on behalf of the Bush campaign," when he knew full well I was there (with special permission from FOX News) to talk about my book, which he had sitting right next to him on the table and which he had chatted with me briefly about before the start of the segment. I correct him. He does not acknowledge his error.

2) When I tried to make a point about how the mainstream media ought to subject John Kerry to as much skull-pounding interrogation as private citizens such as Swift Boat Vet Larry Thurlow had endured from Matthews and the Washington Post, Matthews cut me off and snorted that he had never been thought of as "mainstream." Yeah, keep snorting.

3) In response to Matthews' claim that the Swift Boat Vets campaign was orchestrated by the White House, I noted that the Boston Globe--hardly a hothouse of GOP operatives--had raised many of the same questions about Kerry's war record as the Swift Boat Vets had. No response from Matthews.

4) Willie Brown expresses exasperation over Swift Boat Vets' questions about Kerry's wounds. He says: "There are questions about the shrapnel wounds. So what else is there? How much he got shot? How deep? How much shrapnel does he have?

Note that I didn't bring the subject of shrapnel. (Got that, Keith Olbermann?) Willie Brown raised the issue.

Here is how I responded verbatim:

"Well yeah. Why don't people ask him more specific questions about the shrapnel in his leg? There are legitimate questions about whether or not it was a self-inflicted wound."

Matthews frantically stuffed words down my mouth when I raised these allegations made in Unfit for Command that Kerry's wounds might have been self-inflicted. In his ill-informed and ideologically warped mind, this transmogrified into me accusing Kerry of "shooting himself on purpose" to get an award.

I repeated that the allegations involved whether the injuries were "self inflicted wounds." I DID NOT SAY HE SHOT HIMSELF ON PURPOSE and Chris Matthews knows it.

Only someone who had not read Unfit for Command would interpret what I was saying the way Matthews did. The book raises questions by vets, many of whom were with Kerry, about whether there was or wasn't enemy fire during the Dec. 1968 incident that led to his first Purple Heart (Patrick Runyon is quoted in a Boston Globe account on p. 35 saying "I can't say for sure that we got return fire or how got nicked. I couldn't say one way or the other. I know he did get nicked, a scrape on the arm.") and whether the injury came from a self-inflicted wound after he caught a tiny piece of shrapnel when he fired a grenade from his M-79 grenade launcher too close (p. 36); whether or not there was "intense rocket and rifle fire" during the Feb. 1969 incident that led to his second Purple Heart (Rocky Hildreth, officer of an accompanying boat on Dam Doi Canal that day, says there was no "intense rocket and rifle fire" on p. 78); and whether the shrapnel wound in his buttocks, which Kerry says he sustained in March 1969 and led to the awarding of his third Purple Heart, was the result of a mine explosion while on a mission or from a wound from his own grenade that he set off too close to a stock of rice he was trying to destroy (p. 87). See also pages 30-31. I was trying to get to these points, but Matthews would not let me finish a sentence.

Well, guess what? This foaming jerk Matthews, who called me irresponsible and kicked me off the show admitted that a) he himself had not read the damned book, b) he was not interested in asking Kerry about the specific doubts raised by vets about his wounds, and c) he had not and would not question Kerry about these specific allegations.

"Are you saying he shot himself on purpose?" Matthews hammered. I repeated myself again clearly that I was referring to the allegations about self-inflicted wounds in the book. When I tried to explain that the vets who were with Kerry had cast a lot of doubt on whether enemy fire occurred during the first two incidents, Matthews cut me off again. "Why did you say that?" he badgered. Because, I said, I was talking about what was in the book, which he had admitted he hadn't read.

"Don't you wonder?" I asked.

"No, I don't," he bellowed. "It's never occurred to me."

With that, I was kicked off the second segment.

As the show broke for commercials, Matthews scrambled for his producers to see if what he said was true. And I'm irresponsible? One staffer ran to the office where I had left my copy of the book, and handed it to Matthews, who--for the first time, apparently--started flipping through it. I asked for my book back and politely said thank you. After I left, he trashed me again on the air and his scurrilous charges were repeated by his MSNBC colleague Keith Olbermann, who called me an "idiot."

I am used to playing hardball. I expect it. I am used to ad hominem attacks. I get more in a day than most of these wussies have received in their lifetimes. But what happened last night was pure slimeball and the unfair, unbalanced, and unhinged purveyors of journalism, or whatever it is they call what they do at MSNBC, should be ashamed.

What I take away from all this is that the Democrat Party waterboys in the media are in full desperation mode. I have now witnessed firsthand and up close (Matthews' spittle nearly hit me in the face) how the pressure from alternative media sources--the blogosphere, conservative Internet forums, talk radio, Regnery Publishing, FOX News, etc. --is driving these people absolutely batty.

Keep bringing it on.

***

By the way, the full MSNBC Hardball transcript is here. Matthews and Olbermann's blog bloviations are here. Olbermann expresses incredulity that I was simply reporting what the Swift Boat Vets' book says, rather than spouting off in a half-baked manner:

Ms. Malkin wouldn’t even go so far as to attribute the suspicion to herself. It was in the book.

Olbermann, alleged journalist, is smearing me because I agreed to discuss and analyze claims made by the authors of Unfit for Command and actually referred to what was in the book--rather than cluelessly spew uninformed opinions about the book a la Chris Matthews (of whom Olbermann drools, "never prouder of you, Chris.") Parroting Matthews' conspiratorial line, Olbermann ignorantly suggests that I am following orders from the Swift Boat Vets to "steer the Kerry-Shot-Himself flotsam into the mainstream media." I suggest he talk to the producer, Dominic Bellone, who booked me about the circumstances of my appearance on the show and ask whether I was dispatched by the Bush campaign or Swift Boat Vets operatives or anyone else associated with the vets' book.

The feedback e-mail for Hardball is hardball@msnbc.com.

Chris Matthews' phone number is listed in the Spring 2004 News Media Yellow Book as 202-885-4600.

***

Just wanted to end with what I think was the most significant exchange on the show involving Wille Brown, who made a stunning admission from a fellow Democrat about John Kerry's core deficiencies:

BROWN: John Kerry is the kind of a guy who is always laid back. He is always been dealing with people who were gentle, who were in every way respectful, who have a sense of dignity about themselves and a sense of honor. John Kerry may not be fit for the terrible battles and wars of the world of politics.

He may be absolutely perfect as a president. But in term of a candidate, he probably has a series of imperfection that‘s may be fatal in his successful, in his pursuit of a successful candidacy. That‘s not to take anything away from his integrity. He should have been doing exactly what he‘s doing today. He should have been doing that from day one.

MATTHEWS: Do you think Massachusetts politics is softball?

BROWN: I think Massachusetts politics is always been very respectful of the other person‘s view and very committed to the idea they don‘t want to seem negative and they don‘t want to be criticized for an absence of integrity.

MALKIN: He is a boy in the bubble, Chris. And...

MATTHEWS: What does that mean?

MALKIN: He hasn‘t been subjected to this kind of heat. And as Willie Brown is suggesting, if he can‘t stand the heat from his fellow veterans, do we really want to trust him to stand up to Islamic extremists?

Update: Keith Olbermann said I had made a "fool of myself," not that I was an "idiot." I stand corrected and apologize for mistakenly characterizing his insult.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:02 AM
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1. Hey Michelle, ... 'ya want some cheese with that whine??
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:03 AM
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2. She should have been put in an internment camp like she believes
Japensese American citizen were during WWII

She definitely doesn't look "white". Hell, she probably is from the Philipines, and they have a significant Muslum population. Maybe she is a front for these groups.

Ashcroft! You are not doing your job
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 10:55 AM
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17. Give her credit.
She admits that "some Japanese Americans were 'inconvenienced.'"

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Athletic Grrl Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:42 PM
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29. I must assume none of those Japanese-Americans
were related to her (as some are to me, through marriage). "Inconvenienced", my ass. These people lost everything they had and my uncle-in-law was born in one of those "rest stops."

FUCK YOU MICHELLE.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 10:53 PM
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30. Yup.
She actually said that on C-Span. Although part of me wonders why in the hell she wanted to go down that shameful road, maybe America needs a refresher course in how to treat it's citizens during times of war. Or should I say how not to treat them.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:07 AM
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3. That kid should ENLIST ENLIST ENLIST
she has too much time on her hands...put her on thr front lines in Iraq, shes the perfect age to enlist..her, and people like Tucker Carlson, and all the little repub kids all need to enlist, period.
send her an enlistment form, and tell her to put her money where her mouth is.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:24 AM
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24. Mari , where can we get one? I will do it.
Is there a PDF somewhere online I can download?

I've got a list of people I'd send them out to, with a letter stating "since you are a such a true patriot,we are sending you this via direct mail. We know you will be reporting for duty ASAP."
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:23 PM
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28. here
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:fUBiKvj-wBIJ:www.dior.whs.mil/forms/DD0004.pdf+enlistment+form+pdf&hl=en

type "enlistment form pdf" into google....you can get a pdf of the enlistment form and print it out..take them with you in your travels..when you run into anyone of draft age who supports Bush, ask them to put their money where their mouth is..
watch them run.....
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:08 AM
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4. She was trying to peddle scurrulous gossip and Matthews called her on it.
She was hemming and hawing about this nonsense of Kerry and "self inflicted wounds" without a single shred of evidence and Matthews nailed her on it.

Malkin's whining and crybaby victim status and posturing doesn't change that one damn bit.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:09 AM
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5. well, no matter how you spin it, Michelle ....
you made an ass of yourself. And Matthews destroyed you on live tv, in front of an audience who applauded your stupidity. You are an idiot, Ms. Malkins. Thanks for the show! You showed us exacly what a "self-inflicted injury" really is!!!!
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:10 AM
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6. Michelle's serious error
was trying to start a story that John actually shot himself in order to receive medals. Chris called that irresponsible and repeatedly asked her --Do you believe John Kerry shot himself? She was made to squirm because Chris stayed on this point.. If Chris had permitted her to get away with that--the headlines verywhere the next day would probably have been_-Hohn Kerry shot himself. This is the way stories get started.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:12 AM
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7. "frantically stuffed words down my mouth"
That would be, 'down your throat', or 'in your mouth', Michelle.

(Girl's mixing her oral-fetish metaphors.)

TBogg said it best, though:

"Well it was a meeting of the minds (loosely speaking) on Rush today when the drug-addled, tripled divorced, didn't-go-to-Vietnam-because-of-a-pimple-on-his-fat-ass Rush Limbaugh had Michelle 'If I wanted to be publicly humiliated I would have signed on for a bukkake video instead of going on Hardball' Malkin on."

:headbang:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:22 AM
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8. poor poor missy michelle
tried to use the "SOME PEOPLE SAY" tactic to float a 'kerry shot himself' meme and got squashed like the maggot she is.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:25 AM
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10. I Heard Someone Say Michelle Malkin Copulated With A Horse(nt)
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 09:18 AM
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14. Some people say...
...she prefers plastic penises to real ones.

(just sayin'...)
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:10 AM
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20. Some people say
Michelle Malkin ran a ring of teenage Thai hookers who just happened to "show up" at Neil bush's hotel one night.;)
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:13 AM
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21. Some people say
she was the hooker! :D
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:36 AM
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13. Exactly...
That crap must not be allowed to go unchallenged. But that's what they try to peddle instead of truth.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:25 AM
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9. I'm so glad she got exposed quickly and publicly for her Coulterish drivel
"If he (Kerry) can't stand the heat from his fellow veterans, do we really want to trust him to stand up to Islamic extremists?"

What a nonsensical statement- a typical pre-arranged right wing talking point to go with the WH's 'losing his cool' remark.

The RW is polarizing this country even more and inciting hate. They are certainly firing up the Dems even more to defeat the corrupt Bushco.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:34 AM
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11. Didn't see her on Chris Matthews, but saw her on Real Time...
and she was just as whiny and full of attitude there. I really think she has some serious psychiatric issues. I can't take any of her arguments seriously when she refuses to back them up with evidence, and then pouts and whines every time she's questioned. I'm convinced that she's just another unjustly famous narcissist.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:36 AM
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12. One word Michele
boo-freaking-hoo
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 09:21 AM
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15. Boo Hoo
Fuck Malkin
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 09:45 AM
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16. Thread with video..
Michelle - you got busted on the Faux "Some people say" tactic...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=109&topic_id=12195
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:04 AM
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18. She calls him a "Neanderthal chauvinist" Sorry, but SHE'S the neanderthal
Cannot believe that she played the "sexist" card when she hob-nobs with the worst of the worst.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:04 AM
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19. Michelle, honey
if you can't run with the big dogs,don't jump the fence.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:14 AM
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22. It seems that when Malkin is not surrounded by
her precious Faux News or other right-wing blowhards, she can't handle the heat. Awww, poor Michelle.

:nopity:
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:20 AM
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23. She just sooooo got her butt kicked.

She should be hiding under a rock right about now, licking her "self-inflicted" wounds.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:32 AM
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25. yes, true. but I hate to see them eat their own
I got so sick of Matthews responding to every question he asked of any democrat guest by talking over their answer and drowning them out with "is it because your a liberal democrat?"

He's a whore.

And now he's whoring himself silly because the tide is getting ready to roll in the other direction, and all the little whores know it.

They will soon be climbing over each other like crabs in a bucket, tearing each other to shreads to save their credibility. Because Abu Ghraib completely torched any illusions of KKKamelot.

It is going to be a nauseating year. Get ready with the immodium AD.

And Malking got whipped, and she is just making it so much worse by whining about it, she's going to further humiliate herself. She needs to get over it and take her lumps and move on. If she had any sense she's never bring it up again.

Although it would be interesting to see if she could whip up enough right wing fury to torch Matthews for a while.That would be fun to watch.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:04 PM
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27. I'm no fan of Matthews myself.

You are right re: whore. He is definitely checking which way the wind blows. And yes, it's going to be nauseating...

Still, she got exactly what she deserved, and I am not unhappy about that. :-)
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:35 AM
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26. Don't use the words "self inflicted" if you haven't been in the military.
In the military "self inflicted" invariably means it was not an accident. It always implies a means of dodging a duty (not necessarily hazardous). If someone hurts himself by accident it is usually described as an accident. Only some one with an agenda to deliberately confuse people would use the words "self inflicted" to describe Kerry's wounds.
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