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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 05:44 AM
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Do repugs really understand what shrub "ownership theme" is about ?
In case they don't. Explain that bush is basically trying to shift

the responsibility of: health care and soc security to the people.


Why... becuase he has blown thru the surplus given and projections

are for increasing budget deficits for years to come.


The medicare reform bill without costs control is a runaway train.

While the "boyking" has yet to veto a spending bill.


In closing, his ownership plan is a fraud. Placing the burden on them.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 06:02 AM
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1. "ownership" means "tax savings" as you pay health, pension instead of gov
The Bush GOP con game continues as they sell the "tax savings" and all the money you will have if you stay healthy, and then die quickly in the first year of your retirement so your kids can inherit.

The GOP are sick folks - and our media lets them sell this crap without making a comment!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 06:10 AM
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2. It's the first step in disuniting our country.
Seriously. I am a happy product of Affirmative Action and my father's access to the G.I. Bill. (Not in that order) I use to say I would have been the perfect candidate for a gangsta queen if things had turned out differently and I had been raised in the projects. What has helped me develop a love for my country is that it gave my family opportunities when we needed it and was a benevolent nation. But I don't feel that way anymore. Living in a white affluent community has changed my perspective.

The community has an upscale look, but the people have no souls and no conscience. They want to get ahead and they don't mind doing it at your expense. How, exactly, are we suppose to feel camaraderie for one another when we're growing up to distrust each other since the platform has now flipped to rugged individualism? Community cooperation is out the window. Anyone who does civic work, does it for personal enrichment opportunities that generally involves a breach of fiduciary responsibility. Why is it that Republicans haven't figured out that they will not be able to count on us who have gentle and peaceful dispositions in the future? They are creating a nation of selfish entrepreneurs. That's what rugged individualism is all about.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 06:27 AM
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3. This "rugged individualism" that you talk about,
is nothing more than a road to allow the Bushes to regain the sense of STREET LORDS and entitlement that they enjoyed when Herbert Walker and Prescott Bush went from being railroad magnates to being financiers for the Nazis and munition lords for the U.S.A. They saw the power in the marriage between money and black powder (dynamite). Growing up in such an environment gave Poppy the chance to experience disingenuous compassion as in "oh, daddy, look those people have nothing to eat"--"Too bad" his parents told him, "it's their own fault"!

They (the Walker/Bushes) made it to the top through illegal, immoral wheeling and dealings and their compassion for others who had not, WAS, IS, AND REMAINS F A U L T Y !!!!

They did not care then. They do not care now. And they will never care. :puke:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 06:42 AM
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6. There is a host of us who do want to live among people who
co-operate with one another and care for each other. I wish there was a way to separate the predators from the civilized, gentile sect. But I'll tell you one benchmark I would never use to tell them apart, and that's someone's so-called Christianity. Most of the predators I know in my community, use religion as a shield to hide behind. Wolves behind the crucifix. It's sickening.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 07:47 AM
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10. It sure is interesting ...
Edited on Wed Aug-11-04 07:48 AM by impeachdubya
That the folks most loudly espousing their "Christian Faith" in politics turn out to be, when you turn the rock over, the embodiment of the worst kind of social darwinist, machiavellian, power-as-the-ultimate-end-in-itself, kick the other guy while climbing the ladder philosophy.

And the party of "sinning, godless, heathen secular humanists" (of which I proudly count myself one) is the one, hopefully, agitating for reasonable social justice, equity, and at least a decent level of fairness and respect for all people, helping the sick, caring for the poor, feeding the hungry.. In short, what Jesus was (I believe) really on about.

...Strange, isn't it?

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 08:09 AM
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11. Very, very strange indeed.
I've often said that the source of this country's cognitive dissonance issues lies in its theological/capitalist foundation. The two are not mutually inclusive. Christianity is the anti-thesis of rugged individualism. To think otherwise is fooling yourself. Ironically, the kind of community fostered under communism is closer to following Jesus's tenets, than those fostered under a capitalist one.

True Christianity creates a bond between the poor and the rich. The rich would indeed feel an obligation to provide assistance to those in need. That is what Jesus would do. But that has been forgotten with the Anglo form of worship.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 06:40 AM
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5. not all affluent
neighborhoods suck--probably just most of them
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 06:35 AM
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4. yes they understand -- and they don't care
they want to break the social compact that it takes for any modern society to live together -- every man for himself.
and if you fall through the cracks -- get a hand-out from the fundy christians.
of course when they get enroned they'll want a government handout.
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 06:56 AM
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8. what they don't understand is
the results they will get when they break the backs of the middle class (which they are doing) Revolution usually comes from the middle class rising up.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 06:43 AM
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7. it's part of the process of changing
from a citizen to a slave.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 07:41 AM
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9. Ownership society means
Bu$H oWn$ j00
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