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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:47 PM
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HOW will Americans react if Bushit postpones election?
While out there petitioning for over a year I heard variations of the same thing.....Safety first, second and third.......civil liberties are a distant fourth.
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How Would Americans React?
On Friday I listened to a reporter asking a tourist in Washington, DC, whether he felt inconvenienced by all the blockages and barriers occasioned by the heightened alert. While the tourist acknowledged that the various barriers and inspections made it difficult to get from one place to another, he made his overall reaction quite clear: "Safety first! I don't want to see another 9/11. Whatever it takes!" I was struck a few hours later as I tuned into President Bush speaking at a campaign rally in Michigan: "I will never relent in defending America. Whatever it takes."

How prevalent this sentiment has become was brought home to me as Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) quizzed 9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey (a former Democrat Senator from Nebraska) at a hearing last week on the commission's sweeping recommendation to centralize foreign and domestic intelligence under a new National Intelligence Director in the White House. Kerrey grew quite angry as Kucinich kept insisting on an answer to his question: "How do you protect civil liberties amid such a concentration of information and power?"

Kerrey protested that the terrorists give no priority to civil liberties. He went on to say that individual liberties must, in effect, be put on the back burner, while priority is given to combating terrorism. Whatever it takes.

Does this not speak volumes? Would Kerrey suggest that Americans act like the "good Germans" of the 1930s, and acquiesce in draconian steps like postponement or cancellation of the November election?

These are no small matters. It is high time to think them through.

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What party does the 'other' Kerrey belong to? :puke:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/081004C.shtml
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:49 PM
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1. Its still unclear how it will manifest itself or how many there will be,
but make no mistake. There will be an October surprise.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:49 PM
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2. I know how this American would react.
And Bush would be best off not finding out.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:55 PM
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4. I'm with you. Iknow that I will not meekly shrug and say Oh. Well.
I have a bag packed and am ready to stay as long as it takes.even if it means a hunger strike on Pennsylvania Ave.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:52 PM
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3. He CAN'T
He doesn't have the authority. On what basis does a U.S. President get to cancel a referendum on himself? I can't believe it's legal.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:09 PM
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7. Since when..............
has this man needed any "authority" for his actions?? He has said it would be so much easier if he were just a dictator, and he clearly has not one whit of respect for anyone who opposes him, so he can and will do anything he wants. Just watch while snivelling Democrats stand by and wonder how the heck he pulls it off. What will I do if he does it????????? Contact all my clients who work for the federal government and tell them to seek services elsewhere, for one. And everybody else should do the same. DO NOT COOPERATE WITH THE BASTARDS.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:09 PM
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8. Ohhhhhhh...........YES HE DOES!
I wish I could post entire article but can't 'cause of copyright and its subsciption on.........here's the gist...
quote.........
Bush already has that power under Patriot I with the expansion of
his
> authority under the War Powers Act of 1947, since, it should be
remembered,
> a declared state of national emergency already exists in the United States
> at present.
>
> The only reason Bush would need the underlying state constitutions
> and county and municipal election laws to be changed is if he intended to
> invoke his authority to permanently cancel elections.
>
> These options include postponement, temporary cancellation and
> permanent cancellation of elections. Temporary cancellation no longer
falls
> under the 90-day Notification of Congress Act. That was deleted under
> Patriot I. These presidential powers are all defined, by the way, by the
> War Powers Act of 1947.
>
> Bush has the legal authority now to postpone or to temporarily
cancel
> elections. Now that we have the 90-day Notification of Congress Act, the
> administration does not have to go before Congress 90 days after a
> temporary cancellation to state the reasons WHY the cancellation is
> necessary or needs to be continued. That part of the War Powers Act was
> removed by Patriot I.
>
> The third power the President has, which he didn't have before but
> has now in the post-Patriot I environment, is to permanently cancel
> elections and rule by decree. Actually, it's rule by edict, not rule by
> decree.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:10 PM
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10. Steph - these "fascists" believe legal is what they say it is - to
hell with rule of law unless its their rules.

Dont you get it?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:32 PM
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13. I get it, I know they believe it
But I can't believe they can actually do it.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:10 PM
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11. Steph - these "fascists" believe legal is what they say it is - to
hell with rule of law unless its their rules.

Dont you get it?
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:55 PM
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5. I have been saying for awhile..
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 07:55 PM by Roon
I will just be happy to have a successful election,no matter who wins. And hey, even if Bush does get re-elected, it's not the end of the world.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:55 PM
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6. O Canada!

Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.

With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!

Sorry. Practicing just in case



:evilgrin:
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:09 PM
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9. I will make the proper arrangements to leave the country.
Some things I will not tolerate.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:18 PM
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12. The majority will bleat
like sheep. 30% will be outraged and the rest will fall into line and "defend the president." The print and broadcast media will run cover for the administration and allow just enough dissenting opinions to vent the people's anger.

The reaction won't be any different than it has been for all of the other terra alerts- no one will be called to accoun- which is why it's a very real possibility.
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 09:06 PM
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14. They Will React Like The Omega Pledges In "Animal House"
They will bend over, take the paddling, and then say, "Thank you Sir. May I have another?"

The American people have been conditioned to do whatever the Government tells them.
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