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VoteDemocratic2004 Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:13 PM
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Jesus was homeless so why do right wingers hate the homeless?
I ran into a bunch of young rethugs the other day and they were bitching about all of the homeless people in my city. They couldn't take having to "step over" them in order to cross the street or bridges in my area.

One of the young dudes "With a Bush/Cheney T-Shirt" was saying how bad they smelled and how much they hated being hit up for change. I blew my stack when I heard one of the little jerks talking about how he hated to hear the (get this) "cripples" change cup being shaken. I yelled at the ignorant bunch of freeper tourists and i told them if they don't like the homeless then to shut and do something about them like starting with voting their leader out of office. At that point an argument started right in the middle of a large bridge and several other people walking by got involved and started saying how bad they wanted Bush out of office and then the homeless guy in the wheelchair started in and people couldn't move across the bridge unless they walked through the group of us that were arguing.

Sheesh! To make a long story short people that hated Bush spoke up and we got the best of the Bush/Cheney young rethugs and they ended up walking away with their heads bowed down in shame.

Jesus was a homeless man and he had to look for a place to stay and it wasn't a "hotel or motel" it was a barn. Do the right wingers understand that homeless people bleed, breath, eat, poop and they are people just like us?

Sorry about my rant!
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:15 PM
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1. Jesus was a healer who didn't charge for his service. Why do RW
insist on for-profit healthcare?
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:32 PM
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21. Actually..
A lot of republicans think people should be charitable and work for hardly anything. For example, I've heard people say that teacher's don't need to make more money because they do their jobs for the love of the children. Same argument applies to the military, police, etc. Republicans seem to think people who have careers in fields that provide a community service don't need to get paid a decent wage. I guess republicans think these people are so selfless that they would be more than willing to sacrifice their own welfare (and that of their families)in order to have the pleasure and honor of serving them.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:39 PM
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24. Getting paid is not the same as making profit. Teaching,
policing and the military that is until the recent privitzation of the military are not in the business to make profit.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:15 PM
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2. Jesus was in a general sense a communist.
The religious right would be the first to crucify Jesus if he returned.

To quote the simpsons:

Barney: Yeah, Jesus must be spinning in his grave!
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:17 PM
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3. No, like the Pharisees, they'd get someone else to do their dirty work
Or they'd find a way to blame Hillary Clinton.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:17 PM
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4. I think it makes them feel superior
and they think that because they are more moral/holy/sober/whatever, they themselves could never be homeless.

I would be curious to know what percentage of now-homeless were at one time conservatives.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:17 PM
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5. Homelessness Scares The Hell Out of Them
So, they completely seperate themselves from the homeless by humiliation.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:27 PM
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15. Bingo! The most common way to protect yourself... vilify those who
bring the truth home to you.

A common tactic by ALL -- conservatives, liberals, RW, LW, rich, poor, male, female.

We start, as always, by looking at ourselves.

Peace.

Kanary
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rlev1223 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 03:10 PM
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28. cognitive dissonance
When we are forced to confront evidence of the consequences of our firmly held, if often irrational beliefs, we project the disturbing feelings outward onto the source of our discomfort. Poverty confuses conservatives, who (in my experience) don't want to think about the big picture much and don't accept that some forces can't be overcome by individual effort alone.

Michael Moore has an interesting take on this, believing, or saying he does, that if he can just show people the bad results of their actions or inattention he can get to them and effect change in their hearts. I'm not so sure.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 03:42 PM
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29. We're brainwashed in this country to believe that if we do right,
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 03:43 PM by Kanary
and do our best, that everything will be A-OK.

The Christians, the story of Lot notwithstanding, cling to their beliefs that if we do our best, we'll be "blessed".

The New Agers love to parrot, "What goes around, comes around".

The Buddhists have their karma.

Wiccans believe in the principle of 3.

So, in the face of all this, if bad happens to others, it's GOTTA be their own fault, right?

Conversely, since we're doing "right", all will be right with us.

Pah.

Kanary
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loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:18 PM
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6. Great Story ! Vote Democratic2004
Good for you!
lofty
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:20 PM
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7. They hate Jesus too. Why do you accuse him of supporting so much bad stuff
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lagniappe Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:24 PM
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13. That's the perfect response to repugs when they say
"Why do you hate America?".

From now on my reply will be:
"Well, why do you hate Jesus!"

It is so true.

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jgardner Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:21 PM
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8. With the economy as it is now,
I'm one paycheck away from homelessness myself. No savings, living paycheck to paycheck. And there are A LOT of people in my boat.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:22 PM
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9. Yah, if I dont find a job soon its wandering around preaching and begging
for me.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:30 PM
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17. You will find a spot to rest in MY home. I can not share much but I can
share floor space and some food.
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VoteDemocratic2004 Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:50 PM
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27. I have taken people in before
The bible tells you that you treat people the way you want to be treated and to open up your hearts to people that are less fortunate or are in need.

My Mom use to tell us kids that God watches everything that you do and if you do something wrong it will come back on you 10 fold. I have done wrong in my past and it did hit 10 fold. You learn from your mistakes and you move on. Republicans will learn from their mistakes and some of them will change but others will stay the same.

When I pass a church I go in and I light a candle for their souls and I hope that God helps them out because they need all of the praying that we can give them.

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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:23 PM
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10. What city are you in?
Where are the homeless this concentrated? How do you know the guys with Bush/Cheney T-shirts were tourists?
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VoteDemocratic2004 Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:25 PM
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14. They came to distract the Kerry Supports that were all along the streets
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 02:41 PM by VoteDemocratic2004
They were talking about going back to The Westin Hotel that was right across the bridge.

I assumed they were tourists because they were headed back to the Westin.

Maybe I assumed that they were something that they weren't and I shouldn't have done that :shrug:.

They could have had a room and all of the Bush/Cheney supports were going to it to pick up more flyers to hand out.



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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:23 PM
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11. If Jesus were walking the earth right now
with the pedigree he has, all of the RWers would want him thrown in jail, even killed, just for being poor and talking about the love of God, his father.

Jesus didn't hang out with those who could throw down $20k/plate for a RW fundraiser. He didn't hang out with those who got the tax breaks. He hung out with those who were disenfranchised by the wealthy, marginalized by the Pharasees and ignored by those who felt it was/is their God given right to look down their noses in pride at those less fortunate than themselves. He would have been drafted into serving this war we have no business being in--none of the big money RWers' children are there.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:23 PM
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12. A lot of these people who profess to love Jesus, only look to the old
testament, not the new. Because that section speaks to them more. It is more their personalities. Remember they will take anything to justify their actions. Like Hitler and the prophcies of Nostradamus.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:28 PM
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16. He also hung out with Tax Collectors and Prostitutes. Imagine?
I mean, filthy tax collectors! EGADS! :P

Jesus also shared his food with others when he had food. He didn't say "catch your own damn fish you lazy stupid bastards" as the R's tend to do.

They are not Christians they are hypocrites. Jesus had much to say about people like them.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:32 PM
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20. Yeah what was that he said about those who publiclly proclaim their faith
in public donations vs the kind old widow who gave quietly her last two coins?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:30 PM
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18. He hung around with drunks, prostitutes, and revolutionaries.
Not to mention Samaritans - the oppressed minority of the day.

He attacked the wealthy, excoriated the the religious right, and was generally a loudmouthed troublemaker.

The rightwingers tend to overlook those facts in favor of the insipid blonde, blue eyed, Austrian ski-instructor, patting cute little anglo-saxon kiddies on their blonde little heads in a pretty field of daisies.

The Romans didn't string him up because he was sweet and meek.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:31 PM
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19. Jesus was/is a terrorist.
Talking stink about those in power.

Overturning the money-changers/bringing down the corporations.

Crucify him!

Kanary
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VoteDemocratic2004 Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:32 PM
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22. Foreclosures on McMansions are a dime a dozen these days
I know I have been through foreclosure and my duplex sold for $475,000.00 last summer and I paid less then $100,000.00 for it.

Try to find an apartment with bad credit and a foreclosure on your credit report and at that point you might become homeless. I found someone to rent to me but I think that some of the families that are homeless right now might have been from McMansions.

Your job gets sent to another country and you can't find one then your McMansion goes pretty quickly.

God forbid you get sick and your health care premium doesn't pay up.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:48 PM
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26. Judgment on Society.
A Society is judged on how they treat their most vulnerable. In this Plutocracy we call America the judgment of Jesus would be that this Society is a failure. The Right Wing Christians have no concept of what Jesus was about. Jesus was a Socialist Radical. Would Jesus be comfortable in the citadels of the Protestant &/or Catholic Palaces of garish wealth and splendour?
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:38 PM
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23. That fills me with indignation
I've spent a lot of time observing this kind of idiocy.

People are confused as to why they are angry. And they are lazy. So they strike out at obvious targets.

People who need to prove their religion are always the least faithful. The rightwingers are not faithful. And that is why they hide behind the bible.

Just try and ride a bike everywhere for a while. You'll soon find out that there are those who care, and those who don't. It was never more blatantly obvious than when I was riding. I now cannot take the added burden of those who don't care. So I don't ride on roads.

By the way, I just drove past a neighbor who didn't acknowledge me. She purposefully put her head down as I drove by. That tiny kind of stuff hurts people. And when I first moved here, I was driving through the neighborhood, and she rolled down her window and sneered, asking what I was doing here. I had to prove my innocence by telling her I had just bought the ranch down the road. What a fucking bitch.

Sorry to rant, but this whole concept of kindness and consideration has me absolutely at wits end. I'm very disgusted.

And congratulations on your win. I hope it did some kind of good. Bad people suck.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:47 PM
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25. That is too bad that she acted that way. I generally look down because I
am shy.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 03:46 PM
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30. Repugs don't want to help. They want to make them disappear without
touching their tax refunds. They don't care where the homeless go to, as long as they are not visible and dirty "their environment." Isn't that the Christian thing to do? For people who quote the bible and scripture they are selfish, self-centered, no charity-in-those-hearts awful people.
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VoteDemocratic2004 Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 04:02 PM
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31. I can't quote scripture
I just know bits and pieces that I have heard all of my life.

Rethugs can quote scripture like it's a job task that they have to do at work that you have to remember word for word.
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