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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 11:24 PM
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I feel conflicted about Jerry Springer's campaign
I really do. On the one hand I feel like he is a scumbag for what his show is about. Then I went to the web site and realize that he is a good public speaker.

I just fear that he may bring down the whole ticket. I really don't know what to think.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:13 PM
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1. hes dead already
He got so much crap in his closet the reps will have a field day
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:14 PM
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2. That's what my fear is
nt
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:16 PM
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5. but everyone knows everything there is to know about him
but on the other hand, what people know about him will make them not vote for him!!!!!!!
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:27 PM
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8. That's why I feel conflicted
nt
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:14 PM
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26. He doesn't even HAVE a closet! There's nothing that hasn't already...
...been said about him.

He's almost a totally free candidate to say whatever he thinks and let that stand on it's own.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:14 PM
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3. Springer's show catered to an audience
an audience which clamored for more, more, more. The racier and scummier, the better.

Just like all the court television shows. And the reality shows.

I certainly don't blame Springer for capitalizing on it.

But what has that to do with his politics?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:19 PM
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6. Nothing!
I've seen him on some shows lately and he's so pure D smart.

I'm excited about the political infomercial concept. It must be an idea whose time has come. Innovative. Fresh.

I'm all for it if he's got the drive, the heart and policy ideas that benefit the people to back it up.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:14 PM
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4. Not knowing enough about how his show is produced
I can only ask does he choose the topics and guests or is it simply a job he does where he walks around with a microphone and tries to make some sense of the drivel that leaks onto the stage.

If what he says when speaking politics makes sense I say listen to him.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:21 PM
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7. I like what he has to say
as for his show... at least he works for a living. He will bring new voters into the fold.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:28 PM
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9. Wasn't he kicked out of City Council for giving a hooker a cheque?
.
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:36 PM
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12. Yep..Not just a check.
A city check.. And he was mayor of Cincinnati at the time.

Not exactly a shining example of good judgement.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:40 PM
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13. The irony is, he IS a good speaker
But I would rather not have scum as a Senator. I know the other side of the aisle talks more about that, but it does less.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:34 PM
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10. even the worst dem is better the best repook, right?
thats the DU loyalist mantra, ain't it?

so what's the problem?

:)
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:18 PM
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28. No, I beleive the mantra is
any democrat is better than any Green or any republican.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:36 PM
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11. I've voted for many Democrats I didn't much care for personally
but voting for someone with an image like Springer's would really disgust me...
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 12:17 AM
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14. Springer PRAISED George Bush on his show!!!
Every day at the end some asshole would stand up to pretend to ask a question. Then they would answer their own question by saying they now had jobs because of our heroic president, George W. Bush. Music would swell, an American Flag would appear then fade with *'s image superimposed. And this is who you guys want to challenge a Republican incumbent? Why bother?

Springer's philosophy is as bankrupt as his show. Much ado about nothing. God, I wish he was a Republican.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 12:56 AM
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18. IRONY my friend....
:)
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 09:58 AM
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24. Oh, c'mon.
I watch Jerry Springer on occasion (try watching stoned, your stomach will hurt from laughing). I'm familiar with the little ceremony you describe. When I saw it, it was a hooker who praises Bush, and not a pretty hooker, a sleaze-pit.

It's like Marilyn Manson's endorsement of Bush. He said he liked Bush because he "stands for everything I believe in". MM is (at least his public persona is) a Satanist.

Relax!
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WINEWOMAN7 Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 12:51 AM
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15. I feel conflicted about Jerry Springer's campaign
I think Jerry Springer will be a real positive addition to the senate. He's got got the background of politics as mayor of Cincinnati. (spl) I've watched him on talk shows and he is articulate, has a calm way of telling it as it is. I really like him. He realizes that his show is only showmanship, it's crude, and he wouldn't watch it himself.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 12:51 AM
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16. I'm going to watch the informercial before making a decision
Edited on Fri Jul-11-03 12:53 AM by w4rma
It sounds like I'd like his policies. But, I've always *utterly* despised his show even though I've thought for a long time that he, himself, is generally a good guy.

Jerry Springer Announces TV Infomerical For Senate Run

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Television talk show host Jerry Springer held a news conference in Columbus on Thursday morning to unveil a 30-minute infomercial to raise funds for a possible U.S. Senate run from Ohio in 2004.

The commercial is aimed at boosting Springer's national fund-raising and won't be shown in Ohio -- initially, at least...

http://www.whiotv.com/news/2323498/detail.html

Today, at a news conference in Columbus OH, I announced to skeptical media that we are going to change the world of politics by breaking all the old rules – the rules that protect the powerful elites that run our country. And the rules that allow those elites to buy elections time and again. Today, we are breaking fundraising ground by testing a strategy whose style and texture match Jerry’s bottom up philosophy.... Selected cities around America will begin to see a half-hour political infomercial for Jerry Springer’s Senate campaign using a straight-to-the-camera pitch by Jerry and several friends...
http://www.runjerryrun.com/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=6623&mesg_id=6623&page=
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 01:03 AM
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19. sounds like a good idea
I only saw a little of his show when I was stuck in a room while my car was tuned up (pure torture) but I have a very smart friend who used to watch him and says he's very intelligent.

I wonder how much his infomercial campaign will cost and if the other candidates will try the same approach?

Also have to second what Mitch TV said about bringing in new voters. When I heard he was considering a run, a long time ago, that was the first thing I thought--new voters, and lots of them.
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Aaron Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 04:52 AM
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22. Thanks for the links! (n/t)
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 12:55 AM
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17. This is not a bad thing-- "think Jesse Ventura"
Voinovich would more than likely had a cakewalk against anyone else... Springer has money, is a good speaker, and has all his baggage out in the open.

He's also a pretty good Democrat...

Don't underestimate the irony of the American electorate...

Springer would fit in quite well in Washington...!
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 01:35 AM
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20. JC, I really respect your opinion...
I'm afraid we're just gonna have to differ on this one. Don't get me wrong, I largely agree with him politically. I just don't want to see Springer's name on a ballot with a "D" next to it. How many votes would he cost Howard Dean, or John Kerry , or Bob Graham? His name is synomymous with sweet transvestite transexuals from Transylvania. He represents incest, and a trashy underbelly of American society that is not what we as Democrats need to embrace. I'm afraid he'll do us MUCH more harm than good.

Wouldn't be the first time I'vre been wrong...
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southernfried Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:21 PM
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29. no, no he wouldn't
there is a huge difference between Jesse and Jerry.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 01:46 AM
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21. Springer
would be hard-pressed to win any election at all. I hope he runs for dog catcher instead. Something more low-profile.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 09:42 AM
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23. An interesting theory in regards to Springer
At the July Meet Up I met a student who just finished his thesis on the 2002 election. He is a senior poli sci student. He thinks that Spinger would actually help our Presidential nominee in Ohio by getting young people to the polls. The older voters still will come to the polls but not vote for Springer but the young who otherwise would stay home will vote Democratic at the top of the ticket. I have no idea if the theory is sound but it was interesting.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:08 PM
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25. I don't think Springer would help
I really don't.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:14 PM
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27. Carlos, Wish You Would Stop Being "Conflicted" All the Time
I've even forgotten what you're "conflicted" about THIS time. Oh, O.K., it's about Senator SPRINGER, this time. The dude is intelligent, made $$ by playing the game-------------how come Nancy RAYGHUN is "acceptable" but Senator SPRINGER is NOT????


Long live, Jerry SPRINGER-------------DEMOCRAT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Liberalism Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:31 PM
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30. Why not?
If morons like Bush can serve as President, what's to stop a talk show host from running for Senator?

I think he'd be a good asset to the Democratic party. Jerry's wild at heart; but is also compassionate about politics and his political beliefs.

He needs to post his stances on the issues on his website, http://www.runjerryrun.com/. I'd love to read his beliefs.

My take? Go for it.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 11:15 PM
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31. Jerry's okay
His politics are A+++++, and he's the FIRST one to trash his own show when he's anywhere at all on TV. The very first one.

His shtick since he's been considering running is something along the lines that his show hasn't cost any jobs, prevented anyone from having healthcare, ruined the economy, etc., etc. Very effective, IMO.

I'm all for his candidacy for the Senate and I hope he wins. I don't think he'll do the party any damage at all.

Eloriel
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FoxNewsIsTheDevil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 11:18 PM
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32. I dont want him representing the Democratic Party.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 11:20 PM
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33. unless someone steps up to bat he may be the best Ohio dems
have to offer? He is a compelling message and he is a liberal. I wonder if Dennis K's campaign doesn't pan out for president if he might be interested in running for the Senate? I think he could win the primary--as far as the election--who knows? if the economy is in the dumpster still an economic liberal with strong labor ties like Dennis could.
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