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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:38 AM
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Condi: "We're either going to fight this war all out and on the offense...
...or we're not."

NBC News

MEET THE PRESS Sunday, August 8, 2004

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5640412/

MR. RUSSERT: Howard Dean, who ran for president, as you well know, had some very pointed comments last Sunday. He said the following: "I'm concerned that every time something happens that's not good for President Bush, he plays this trump card, which is terrorism. His whole campaign is based on the notion that, `I can keep you safe, therefore at times of difficulty for America, stick with me,' and then out comes Tom Ridge. It's just impossible to know how much of this is real and how much of this is politics, and I suspect there's some of both in it."

DR. RICE: Well, I wish that Governor Dean had been able to sit with us on Saturday and Sunday of last weekend and go through these terror threats. America was attacked on September 11, and everything that we've been doing since then, whether with it is with new allies in places like Pakistan to fight the war on terrorism, whether it is trying to enable state and local governments to really use information more effectively, whether it is sharing intelligence, it's all to try and prevent another attack. Now, we know we have an uphill fight, because the terrorists only have to be right once. We have to be right 100 percent of the time. But the idea that you would somehow play politics with the security of the American people, that you would not go out and warn if you have casing reports on buildings that are highly specific in New York City, are you really supposed to not tell the people of New York City or the people of Citigroup or the people of the New York Stock Exchange, their security experts, that we found casing reports that are highly specific about vulnerabilities? I don't even understand what Governor Dean is talking about.

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MR. RUSSERT: But wouldn't it be better if he refrained from campaign pitches?

DR. RICE: I don't think this was a campaign pitch. Tom Ridge is out there to tell the American people that there is a vulnerability, that there is a threat, and that they need to be vigilant and to give to local and state officials the way to be quite specific in their responses. But, Tim, we're either going to fight this war all out and on the offense or we're not. We're either going to recognize that we can't sit back and just defend the country, that we've got to go out, that we have to find new allies in the war on terrorism as we have, for instance, Pakistan, that in the war that we're fighting in places like Afghanistan and Iraq, we are changing the circumstances out of which these terrorists came. And what the people of those countries need to know is that we're in this for the long term. We're not going to set artificial deadlines for American forces. We're going to be there for the brave Afghans and Iraqis who are taking risks for democracy, and that we are going to finish this job. This president is in no way confused about what our obligations are.

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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:40 AM
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1. Condi Process Doo & Colin: Doing the "Perp Walk" for High Crimes!
Edited on Sun Aug-08-04 10:41 AM by GalleryGod
Asshole bitch of all time...these 2 set-back african americans 20 years!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:44 AM
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3. and women!
so, black women get smacked down twice!

i wonder what her 'sisters' think about her! anyone? anyone?

off to email a couple of beautiful black lady friends of mine to see if they are keeping up on this...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:05 PM
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8. at least 50 years


I added more years because they are intelligent and they are oing a disservice to our people. In fact, they are doing a disservice to all Americans. They are cfooks for power.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:43 AM
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2. Let's not, asshole. I cannot wait to see her in her orange jumpsuit in
Gitmo.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 11:11 AM
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4. I've got her on mute now, as I wait for Clark on Wolfie........
I detest this woman...........
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 11:24 AM
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5. I picked up on that too
What an arrogant COW.

But, that phrase also means that they are now desperate...they are running out of rhetoric and are reduced to either/or statements to justify their positions.

Remember the "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists?" statement...that was essentially bullying...Now they are whining and pathetic....

The fact is the COW was supposed to be our National Security Adviser and she screwed it up on 9/11, and she was supposed to be in charge of the Iraq transition, and she's screwed that up too.

I can't wait until January 2005 when the incompetent COW is dismissed from the White House and sent back to California...where she will no doubt be the next candidate put up by the Republicans to run against Boxer or Feinstein.

In closing, I'd like to apologize in advance to Bovines and Bovine lovers...
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soupkitchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 11:39 AM
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6. Maybe somebody from the Kerry campaign should be going through
the intelligence with them. If I was Kerry I'd jump all over this, and then designate Dean as his "terror alert" representative.
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 11:55 AM
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7. Black and White Thinking ...
"EITHER" ... "OR" ...

Will some "responsible journalist" (Oxymoron ALERT!) call these fools on their simplistic thinking skills, and point out to them that there are MILLIONS of options ... NOT just the TWO limited ones they propose.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:13 PM
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9. Her remarks indict herself, Bush, and Rummy.
They were given watch duty for FORT AMERICA and slept/vacationed for 8 months. 9/11 was never supposed to happen... it was only through the unwise and arrogant BushCo that the terrorists were able to easily get past the check points....

The warnings they had were specific enough to upgrade security but they feared the airlines blowbacks and did nothing...they were wimps.

Guess who paying the price....FT America is...thats us baby, thats us...
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:15 PM
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10. "on the offense" = phrase for countering criticism of Iraq
These people are experts at spinning and purposely creating confusion.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:16 PM
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11. "We?" Is Condi donning her cami's?
Funny how politicians are fond of saying "We" are going to fight some war they cooked up. Funny how few of them end up in graves or hospitals after the fight is over.

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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:34 PM
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12. Acorns and oak trees
"No longer is it just the fear of being attacked by international
terrorist organizations -- attacks against Americans and American interests overseas.
A lot of these groups now have the capability and the support infrastructure in
the United States to attack us here if they choose to do so."
-- John P. O'Neill, 1996
Read His Speech to Congress On Terrorism!

Early Sept.: O'Neill takes a job as head of security for the WTC.
He mentions to friends in New York that he fully expects the
building to be targeted by terrorists in the future.
http://www.nationalstrategy.com/speakers/oneill.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/john/speech.html
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DR. RICE: I don't think this was a campaign pitch. Tom Ridge is out there to tell the American
people that there is a vulnerability, that there is a threat, and that they need to be vigilant and to
give to local and state officials the way to be quite specific in their responses.


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