Moore's "7 minute outing of AWOL" underlies the media conspiracy in the US

[cthrumatrix]

Yesterday Kerry brought up this fact when he was asked a question.

The question should be "why did the media NOT let America know about

this"? Why did it take Micheal Moore's F911 to educate America. Plenty

of people here on DU bring up these issues everyday damn day.



Andrea Mitchell on Imus this morning said it "was not one of Bush's

better moments". But did she ever report this or the other hundred

facts about the lead up to the war or 911 whitewash...hell no.



What is it going to take? A bomb with govt./media fingerprints on it

to change our media? People died and families lives have been forever

changed. To them, it's a screenplay as they move on to the next act in

TPTB's screenplay.



I'm sick of it. Moore's next film should be on the media.

[BlueEyedSon]

1. In the meantime, we have "outfoxed"

http://www.outfoxed.org/

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002HDXTQ/qid=1091791631/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-1707002-2132647?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846

[cthrumatrix]

5. I have to see this...our media powers really deserve to be broken up

[Justice]

2. Andrea Gave You the Answer

"it was not one of Bush's better moments"

That is really the reason the media didn't give show it to us. Pure and simple.

[monchie]

3. Yet if it had been a Democratic president...

...those seven minutes would've been shoved down our throats 24/7 till we were sick of seeing them.

[arwalden]

17. The Same Way That Clinton's Initial Denial Was...

"I did not... have sex..."

-- Allen

[John_H]

4. Yesterday MSNBC said Chimp read fo FIVE to seven min

Have you contaced any mediawhores about their bias recenly? If not, you are enabling Chimp.

[thecrow]

8. he wasn't even reading!

he was just sitting there dumfounded or worse.

[buycitgo]

9. I HEARD that!!!!

why didn't they say TWO to seven minutes; reduce the number as far as possible

how could they DO that?

how hard was it to TIME it from the MOMENT card tongued his ear, and when he GOT UP?????

what was UP with that?

they do EVERYTHING they can to grease the wheels for this simp

amazing

glad you mentioned that, as it REALLY pissed me off at the time

[skypilot]

18. The fact that it's been whittled down to only seven minutes...

...is pissing me off. I think I'm going to mention this everytime I come across a thread talking about the "7 minutes" Bush sat in that classroom. The fact is that Bush remained in that school, surrounded by schoolchildren for at least a HALF HOUR after being told about the second attack. He eventually moved from the classroom to the school library,where he addressed the nation, but the fact remains that he was surrounded by children during a terrorist attack when no one had gotten a handle on what was happening or what might happen next. People have got to get over this "7 minute" thing, especially now that even that number is starting to be chipped away at. HE WAS IN THAT SCHOOL FOR AT LEAST A HALF HOUR!!!!! I'm sorry but this is one area where Michael Moore really screwed up.

A HALF HOUR, PEOPLE!!!! NOT JUST "7 MINUTES"!!!!!!

[Rockholm]

6. During the DNC, I had a client who gave me an "answer"

I had a client in who was in intern for a talking head on one of the Sunday morning shows. I asked her why the media was giving Bush a free ride and not asking questions. She told me she was so tired of everyone (friends, family, etc) asking her that question. Her answer was that the white house and the administration stays on message all the time. She said that when they ask questions, they get the same answer every time, depending on the question. She said it was very hard to get any information, that it is tightly controlled and the only way to get access is to not piss them off.
Needless to say I was livid but really could not get into it with her as she was a client. She could see I was getting quite agitated and finished up her sale and left.

[cthrumatrix]

7. why can't the media report facts...and ask the WH for comments?

[buycitgo]

10. JESUS!!!!!

they sure didn't buy that line from CLINTON

remember that maxho Kurtz wrote a BOOK called spincycle about how all Clinton did was try to influence the media?

how come you didn't do a new edition on the junta?

cause it would have to be a MILLION pages long?

[Flubadubya]

13. Why is the WH secretiveness and recalcitrance NOT news?...

Your client says they just can't get info from them as a "matter of fact". She obviously finds it frustrating, but why don't they take their case to the public in a UNITED front and ask the American people (over and over and over) why the White House won't participate in democracy, what are they hiding, etc.?

According to the client they are intimidating the press and the press is just "taking it". If the press were not in cahoots with the administration they would be bitterly decrying their chicanery. I can't have much sympathy for a so-called "cowed" media. Let them get a backbone, let them do the job they are supposed to do... present a UNITED front against this surreptitious administration and then EVERYONE will be happy... except the White House, perhaps. They won't do it, of course, because they are OWNED by the corporate interests that OWN the White House.

[cthrumatrix]

16. this is the story ...Dean brought this up before Iowa...and what happened?

[Rockholm]

19. Exactly. Why don't we hear OVER and OVER about...

the Saudi royal family's $150,000 gifts of jewels to the BFEE? The Clinton's were brutalized in the press because of their gifts. Shit, even Nancy Reagan was criticized for the WH china.

How many "gates" were associates with the Clintons? WAY TOO MANY. All lies, fabrications, etc.

How many "gates" for *. Plamegate? WTF IS GOING ON?

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

21. How about "scandal-plagued"? We heard that for eight years.

Now they never even utter the word "scandal," when the stuff that Bush has done is way beyond Watergate.

[Armstead]

14. Yes like the Nixon administration had been real cooperative

That client shows what a bunch of complacent buck-passers the media has become.

If they'd had that attitude in the 70's, there would never have been a Watergate.

[linazelle]

11. "Moore's next film should be on the media."

I've said the same thing here. I understand his next movie will be about health care, though. But I think SOMEBODY must do this film.

Recently CSpan did a symposium with the likes of Brokaw, Jennings, Rather and others. They all pretty much denied that there's any direct influence on them to change or alter stories--they claim to report the news as it is. They claim that both sides accuse them of bias.

What I'd like to see is a definitive study of the truth. Perhaps I'm mistaken about the bias. But when you see Moore's film and the coverage of the protestors at his inauguration which never made the mainstream media, you KNOW the truth.

[cthrumatrix]

12. funny how other journalists (not the elite) say other

Fox was sued in court by it' sown reporters for truth. Judge rule that Fox doesn't need to tell the truth.

It's entertainment.

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

15. I ask the same question everyday

"People died and families lives have been forever changed."

After 58,000 guys died in Vietnam, and the whole country spent 30 years asking if they had died for a good reason -- how could the media not question Iraq when Bush kept changing the rationale and kept pushing for it in such an obvious way? How could they not demand accountability for the families of the 9-11 victims? How could they take the part of Bush, the guy that loves secret government and no accountability and refuses to answer to the people he is supposed to be serving, and work AGAINST the 9-11 families, who only wanted answers?

I know the people in the media are human beings with families of their own that they love --they can't be souless robots -- but how could they do this? They must not give a damn about ordinary people. They certainly don't care who suffers under the outsourcing and bad economy, so I guess why should they care about people dying and getting thier limbs blown off. It is mind-boggling.

It is such a terrible injustice. I didn't even care all that much for Michael Moore until I saw "Bowling for Columbine" and liked it. Now I think he is a hero.

[robbedvoter]

20. W is THEIR pResident, silly! They worked hard to install him, why

would they mess with their success? Just remember what they did in 2000! The covering, the sucking up and the baseless attacks om Gore - thsy worked hard to get this guy!