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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:21 AM
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9/11 related E-mail courtesy of a right wing associate of mine...
Consider this the gift that keeps on giving. I thought you would all enjoy this e-mail from a local republican. For your entertainment I present "No More 9/11s":


General Hawley, is a newly retired USAF 4 star general. He commanded
the Air Combat Command; our front-line fighters and bombers at Langley AFB, VA. He is now retired and no longer required to be "politically correct." A true patriot!

"Since the attack 9-11, I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such
surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them
too. Here they are:

1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative."
Listen carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with me now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is he who is depicted on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our country has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what happens.

2) "Violence only leads to more violence." This one is so stupid
you usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it. Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already: Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence. Limp, panicky, half measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully thought through, professional, well executed violence never leads to more violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead. That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "reeducated," not "nurtured back into the bosom of love." Dead.

3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community have
failed us." For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy satellites. "After all, (they reasoned,) you can see a license plate from 200 miles away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a license plate. Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans. Finding humans is not possible with satellites.You have to use other humans. When we bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks like Gary Busey in a Spring Break '93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a
coffee shop in Kabul and say "Hi ya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to
meet that bin Laden fella. "Well, you can, but all you'd be doing is
giving the bad guys a story they'll be telling for years.

4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're
angry at us." Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was
just a desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are
richer than Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The
poor helpless people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and
murdered to stay in power. Mohammed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes into the killing grounds is the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew this, too. In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend more time drinking. It's the same today.

5) "Any profiling is racial profiling." Who's killing us here,
the Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an
article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin
Laden family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a
huff, never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much
Drakkar. I'm crushed. Please come back. Let's all stop singing "We Are
the World" for a minute and think practically. I don't want to be
sitting on the floor in the back of a plane four seconds away from
hitting Mt. Rushmore and turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say,
"Well, at least we didn't offend them."


SO HERE'S what I resolve for the coming year: Never to forget
our murdered brothers and sisters. Never to let the relativists get
away with their immoral thinking. After all, no matter what your
daughter's political science professor says, we didn't start this.
Have you seen that bumper sticker that says, "No More
Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says, "No More Pearl Harbors," or "No More 9-11's."

THIS NEEDS TO STAY IN CIRCULATION FOR THOSE WHO HAVE OR WILL
FALL FOR THE STUPIDITY GOING AROUND.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:24 AM
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1. Urban Legendry
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/hawley.htm

He's not at all that right wing.

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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:27 AM
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3. Excellent. ...thank you!
I'll reply with the Snopes link! Perfect!!!
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:26 AM
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2. You can fight this type of enormous ignorance
it's a waste of time to bother.
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:28 AM
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4. Check snopes
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:31 AM
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5. Time to hit the "Reply All" button and debunk it!
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 11:32 AM by johnfunk
I love it when I get similar scam right-wing mail.

And I ALWAYS debunk it in reply.

1) Give the reply a good, inflammitory title such as: BOGUS SPEECH BY 4-STAR GENRAL BEING CIRCULATED BY RIGHT WING (was: Speech from the former ACC commander (now retired and not restricted to being politically correct), Gen Hawley)

2) If it's been forwarded umpteentillion times, include ALL of the attached e-mail addresses.

3) In this case, put General Hawley's comments first, then the Snopes debunking...

4) ... followed by a swipe at "right-wingers who either make this kind of fraudulent sh!t up or blithely pass it along without vetting it because they beleive everything they read on the 'Net."

It works for me.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:32 AM
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6. A Real General - but it's a humor column cut and pasted to be your email
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 11:33 AM by papau
Gen. Richard E. Hawley, United States Air Force general, former commander of the USAF's Air Combat Command until his retirement in 1999, did not write the above.

It is the humorist Larry Miller - but with the opening and closing paragraphs omitteed:


People have been making New Year's resolutions for a long time. Usually they're personal and last no longer than a smoke ring or one of Tom Daschle's smiles. You know the drill: "I'm going to cut down on my drinking, lose a few pounds, and read more books." Of course, by January 3rd, you get drunk, order a pizza, and buy a satellite dish. ....

This year, though, my resolutions won't be personal, and they won't look forward. They'll look back. Four months back. As you know, since September 11, our leaders and soldiers have done a fine job, frequently a brilliant job. (I mean, please, how about that Rumsfeld? If he were a woman, I'd—Wait. Come to think of it, I'd still do nothing.) I don't even care that so many of our fellow Americans have been contrary and mealy-mouthed. What makes me want to scream like an actress and throw things is this: Since the attack, I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them too. Here they are:

...followed by garbage email in your post...
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:46 AM
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7. This is so typical of right-wing morons. Disseminating false information
without checking the source or truthfulness.

These brainless freepers believe any bullshit without questioning. As long as it sounds great (e.g., great to them means hateful, ignorant and racist) and supports their goal of getting Bush reelected.

Lying, cheating, stealing...the Republican way.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:48 AM
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8. The Lying Blast E-Mail Division of RNC-Goebbels v2.0 is busy these days
It must be hard to make shit up and attribute it to people you don;t even know.

The ORIGINAL Goebbels would be SO ENVIOUS of the Freepers and Busheviks.

So very envious.
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