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Grover Cleveland Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 01:31 PM
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Since I'm such an alternate history buff...
could you imagine what would have happened if Lieberman had won the nomination and picked Evan Bayh as VP.

10 Threads talking about prime Canadian real estate
Couple of threads imploring people to take one for the team
20 or so threads encouraging Nader get-out-the vote drives

Pandemonium, people!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 01:37 PM
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1. It still want to know what would have happened if..
Al Gore had won the 2000 election. Oops, sorry, he actually did.

1.) would 9/11 have happened?
2.) would we still be having budget surpluses?
3.) would we have a more protected environment?
4.) would enron, etc. have happened?
5.) would anyone remember ashcroft (the man who lost to a dead guy), rumsfeld, cheney, etc?
6.) who would have been the 2004 nominee for the repub party? mccain, e. dole?

Any other thoughts out there?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 01:49 PM
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3. Enron would still have happened.
But Kenny-boy would be behind bars by now.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 02:44 PM
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6. DU ran a great article a couple of years ago
based on that premise. I think it was around the one-year aniversary of 9/11. It was a newsy review of Gore's administration up to that point, and referred to only one of the WTC towers being hit, and how Republicans were constantly criticizing Gore for the subsequent invasion of Afghanistan. It was a great article...I'll see if I can locate it.

Dirk
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 02:58 PM
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8. Here's that article
http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/02/01/28_year.html

The Year that Might Have Been
January 28, 2002
by Eric Munoz

President Al Gore's first year in office began amid controversy with the Republican Congressional Leadership conducting investigations into Florida's election fiasco. Ironically, the investigations uncovered a web of questionable and illegal activities performed not on the behalf of then VP Al Gore, but on behalf of Texas Gov. George W. Bush. Among the parties alleged to be responsible is Kenneth Lay, former CEO of now bankrupt Enron. Reportedly, Mr. Lay hired a group of Republican staff members to pose as protestors and storm the Miami-Dade recount efforts. He, along with several others face charges of intimidation, conspiracy to commit election fraud, racketeering, voter fraud and other corruption charges. In the aftermath, revelations of accounting irregularities and fraud in Enron's business practices have brought the once mighty energy trading to the brink of collapse.

President Gore's first year in office has been marked by a decline in economic growth from the booming 3.5-4% growth rates of his predecessor's last years to a more modest 1.5-2% growth this year. Republican Senate Leader Trent Lott has been the most vocal critic of President Gore's economic program. "Significant rate cuts in the top income tax rates would significantly grow this economy and surpass the growth rates seen in the late 1990's. This economic slowdown is the direct result of Al Gore's refusal to lower rates from their ridiculously high levels to levels more accommodating to economic growth." Coupled with the war on terrorism, the slowdown has forced a re-evaluation of projected surpluses over the next 10 years. Those projections have been scaled down from the whopping $5.6 trillion dollars forecast just over a year ago to a more modest $4.1 trillion. Republican leaders blame Mr. Gore's budget and tax policies, which have been more generous to environmental programs, including a 150% increase in funding for alternative fuels.

The Democrats, faced with a slowing economy, are going into the midterm elections hopeful that that Alan Greenspan's recent reduction in the federal rate to 4.5% will jumpstart the economy by the end of the summer. "The budget proposed by the President includes significant debt reduction, because this is relieving upward pressure on interest rates the fed's monetary policy will provide some boost as Americans will be able to refinance their homes saving potentially hundreds of dollars per month, it will also encourage new home buyers to purchase as long term rates will fall," predicted Sen. Tom Daschle. The Democrats will need to see an increase in the economy's growth if they hope to capture the Senate or House this fall.

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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 01:38 PM
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2. the Loyalists would be raving, saying anyone not happy
with Lieberman-Bayh was worse than Hitler and would have the blood of thousands on their hands.
Speaking of alternate history, what's the divergences for your stories? Mine diverges in 1889--Austria-Hungary's Rudolf is only thought to have died, resurfacing in 1916; then the Central Powers win WWI due to fortuitous intel in Palestine, the much-adored (there) Schlieffen Plan, and civilization does not collapse because the "Huns" win.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 02:14 PM
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4. Alternate history buff?
Ah, you probably rooted for the Aztecs to defeat the Koreans at the Battle of Midway during the 30-Years War.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 02:31 PM
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5. They're all just either Spiders or Snakes, you know....

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 03:23 PM
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10. But I thought the Aztecs won?
:wtf:
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 02:46 PM
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7. A landslide losing ticket
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 03:00 PM
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9. I'm actually writing a story now....
Its about Roosevelt being deposed in the 1930's and a Fascist dictatorship being imposed in America. Its a divergence from a real attempted coup that was exposed because of a Retired Marine Commander, in my story, they didn't go to him at all. Check out these links:

http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac/smedley.htm

http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr399-fdr.html

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1373/is_n11_v45/ai_17471772

http://arizona.indymedia.org/news/2004/07/20513.php
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