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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:39 PM
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Poll question: What is our top priority, once we elect Kerry
Of course there are probably some who think that Electing Kerry shouldn't be our first priority; there are some good arguments for that, but for the purposes of this survey, let's assume that it is.

Bryant
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:41 PM
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1. If Imperial Power is NOT broken, then next time they come back
there will be nothing left of the Old American Republic to save.

Sigh. Sadly, I have little faith that Kerry will pursue this course, even if he has a Democratic Congress to do it with.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:57 PM
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6. He would have to spend a lot of political capital
And unless he wins in a landslide (which I don't forsee, although I do think he'll win) I don't think he's going to have enough to do that and do anything else.

And every day Republicans are going to talk about how politicized this is. "Not content to have won an election, now the Democrats are trying to throw in jail all who disagree with them."

Bryant
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:25 PM
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11. You know what, I don't give a shit! They are going to Pravda us no
matter what!

Fuck that! The last time we gave those monsters a pass with the much LESS criminal than today's criminalities Iran-Contra.

Maybe if we hadn't done as you aid THEN, we wouldn;t be losing our freedom and our nation NOW!

I could care LESS what those fucking kinder and gentler Nazis say.

I wish MORE Democrats felt like that.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 03:08 PM
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20. Maybe you'd have better luck
convincing them to go along with your ideas if you didn't accuse of ignoring crimes that occured when they were in high school.

I'm just sayin'

Bryant
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 05:43 PM
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21. They refused to impeach Raygun because he was popular even though
he and his Busheviks HAD committed high crimes, much higher than a Blow Job.

It is common knowledge that the Dems backed off because of Raygun's "popularity". Look how we were repaid, with a Phony Impeachment in which more laws were broken by the Busheviks to manuever Clinton into the Perjury Trap than Clinton broke getting his Blow Job.

As Paul Krugman correctly observes we are not dealing with another political party in the old sense, but a revolutionary cabal who I believe has the IDENTICAL morals and values of the Ferdinand Marcos regime.

And our Leadership is running out of time to recognize what is going on here.

By they way, which Democrats were in High School in '86. Kerry? Clinton? Daschle? Zell Miller?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 06:46 PM
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24. Using your own words
"Maybe if we hadn't done as you aid THEN, we wouldn;t be losing our freedom and our nation NOW!"

I guess I read this wrong. I was in highschool in '86, so that's who I was referring to.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 07:17 PM
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29. Wups. My bad. Apologies. I wasn't talking to you personally
I guess I slipped into second-person speak to the Democratic Party without adding the quotes and the elaboration of who I was speaking to.

My bad. You didn't read it wrong.

I wrote it wrong. Sorry.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:41 PM
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2. Prosecuting every last fucking neocon traitor
including Will Marshall and any other PNAC'ers who claim to be "Democrats"
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:42 PM
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3. All of the above and election reform. I think Kerry can put together
together a sharp team to assist him in those endeavors.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:47 PM
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4. All of the above but
these guys must be brought to justice as quickly as possible. We have to stop this once and for all. If we let them go we will be sealing our fate IMO.
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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:00 PM
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8. What about pardons?
Won't W just pardon everybody before he leaves office?
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:17 PM
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9. I don't know but I don't think so.
Not if they have not yet been accused of anything. I could be very wrong but pardon them from what?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:34 PM
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13. I don't know
Was Nixon charged with anything when Ford Pardoned him? I know that people were preparing briefs and what not; but I think they had yet to materialize. I could be wrong however.

Bryant
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:54 PM
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18. Sometimes I feel
so dumb! I can't remember how that went down. This place is so humbling.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:48 PM
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5. A 'Manhattan Project' for Energency Independence n/m
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:58 PM
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7. Very good suggestion
IMHO
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:27 PM
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12. YES.
:)
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:21 PM
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10. The United States' two top concerns are:
1) Energy independence and
2) Corporate/media conglomeration

Kerry needs to address these two issues before addressing anything else.

To hit the terrorists where it hurts we have to destroy the funding (and the motivation) for the terrorist actions that they carry out.

And, domestically, the greatest threat to our democracy is the corporate financed media and fascist takeover over our government by these corporations. For our country to be healthy, this has to stop NOW.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:34 PM
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14. They all must be dealt with, but in terms of most important
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 02:38 PM by merh
1. Rebuiliding our international alliances, imho, is the top concern.
(some nations have their weapons aimed at us right now, nobody likes us!)

But, in order to do that we have to
2 Bring the Bush Family to Justice

And if we can rebuild the internation alliances, then we can
3. Achieve a workable withdrawel from Iraq

4. Getting the Economy back on the right track
Will be effected by 1, 2 & 3.

5. Ensuring that we provide a good education for all of our children
This is an ecomic and humanitarian concern that is as vital to getting the economy on track as is
5. Creating a health care system that works for all Americans
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:40 PM
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15. Can't vote (just registered)
All of the above, but I'd put bringing Bu$hco to justice on the low end of the priority list. As much as I'd love to see him tossed into Abu Ghraib for a little "humane treatment", going after them first would be a self defeating action.

Think about it, these guys are pretty well cemented. Anybody who isn't bought was blackmailed into subservience a LONG time ago. It would take the better part of Kerry's first term to even get a toehold in that wall of corruption, and meanwhile they sit in their ivory tower and toss boiling oil down on them heathen libruls and their godless agenda.

Kerry's time would be better spent showing the people of the US and the rest of the world that Bu$hco is NOT representative of America.
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ILeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 07:07 PM
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26. The Bush Regime is a cancer. It is killing us. We can't ignore it.
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 07:09 PM by ILeft
We are facing the death of our nation because we ignored it after Reagan/Bush I. They aren't going to just disappear after the election any more than they did after 1992. If Kerry lets them off the hook (and I assume he will), they'll just come back stronger. I truly believe we need to deal with the enemies within before we can move on.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:40 PM
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16. collectively preparing "ourselves"..
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 02:41 PM by Aidoneus
for the illusory bubble to pop? I guess that falls under "Other". Primarily the idea that any of "our" priorities will matter.--That anything is effectively accomplished other than the shoring up and maitainance of practically everything this will (as the storyline now goes) supposedly put a sudden stop to.. that'll be a little hard to swallow.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:46 PM
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17. I want them all indicted, tried and
sent to jail! Look at what they have done! They CANNOT get away with this. We must send a message to the neo-cons that they will pay if they continue their agenda. If they see their cohorts in handcuffs maybe they will get the message.
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leanings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:59 PM
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19. Y'all are fucking dreaming
if you think there's going to be some kind of tribunal or something for members of the current administration. Ever. That's so far from the realm of possibility that it's laughable even to consider, for a mountain of reasons. Number one being that they have and will continue to have for the foreseeable future the support of almost half of the country.

Priorities should be getting international assistance for Iraq and seeing that thru to whatever end awaits, getting back to work on the I/P issue and HEALTH CARE and SOCIAL SECURITY. Baby boomers ain't gettin' no younger.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 06:02 PM
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22. Power to the People !!!
there's a phrase I haven't heard for awhile ... but that's job number one in my book ...

it is way past time for us to take back our country ... it is time to outlaw paid lobbyists ... they are doing nothing but bribing public officials ... let's topple the corporate-controlled election process ... corporations that participate in the political process in any way whatsoever should be shut down ...

let's change the tax code so that we value earned dollars ten times more than unearned dollars ... and let's get back to real progressive tax rates for individuals ... let's punish corporations who evade taxes or export jobs ... companies with more than 10% of their workforce outside the country should not be eligible for federal or state contracts ... and let's tax capital gains made from the sale of companies stock eligible for better rates based on the percentage of their workforces that are domestically based (or are U.S. citizens) ...

and finally, let's get rid of the damned electoral college ... it's bad enough to look back to 2000 that put the second place finisher in the whitehouse ... but look at what it's doing this year ... a majority of voters have been totally disenfranchised ... it you don't live in a battleground state, the campaign is little more than something you hear about on DU ... it ain't happening ... what difference does it make whether you vote or you don't; the electoral results will not change ... people seem even less interested in discussing the issues or learning about the candidates than usual ... the electoral college has got to go ...
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 06:09 PM
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23. dismantling the corporate media AND throwing Bushco in jail
those are my two main priorities.

Nothing else matters if we can't get the corporate media to quit lying.

That is how we start to bring democracy back to this country.

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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 06:56 PM
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25. Re-Electing Kerry!
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 07:13 PM
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27. nope ... the very first thing that Kerry should do is to determine how ...
badly off Bush left the Union.

These worthless bastards in the Administration are talented at concealing the extent of their wickedness. We are all well acquainted with their weasley ways, their prevarications and their lies. So what Kerry will face when he does a frank appraisal of the damage done is known by no one.

Frankly, it is a bit overwhelming. Just how badly have these suckers fucked us up?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 07:16 PM
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28. I honestly hold no hope for a better America unless the traitors are tried
and convicted.

Oh, America will truddle along as usual if it doesn't happen...but then another Bush-league fascists will come along again, and people will embrace them again...and America will , once again, be in this exact same position.

What should have happened to Nixon needs to happen to Bush. JAIL! Our nations best interests demands we jail the criminals..not pardon them...not make excuses for them...not make a mealey-mouth call to "move on"
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 07:18 PM
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30. Saving the country from fascism
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 07:21 PM by DaveSZ
That's the most important thing at this point, and secondary to all else.

They will try to cheat in the election (probably by disenfranchising Blacks, etc).

They are trying their best to strip away the last checks and balances (the federal courts).



We need to be ready because these folks are a scary bunch.


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