Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Who is your SECOND choice for President?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:44 AM
Original message
Poll question: Who is your SECOND choice for President?
Regardless of who your first choice is, who is your second choice?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:45 AM
Response to Original message
1. Kerry, given Clark is not a candidate yet.
eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
displacedvermoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:52 AM
Response to Original message
2. Kerry is my second choice to Dean
and that is one reason why I am so friggin tired of this on-going string of theads bashing either Dean or Kerry. I see a lot of similarity in the views of these two men, and I will be pleased to have either man in the White House. Kerry probably is more liberal than Dean, Deanis more moderate than Kerry. I feel both men can beat shrubass, and think it likely any of several more of the candidates (Edwards, Graham, Clark, probably Gephardt) can beat Bush given a well-run campaign.

What does it make me if my first choice is Dean, and Kerry is my second choice. A Dean groupie with war-mongering tendancies?

I've given money to both men, BTW, and could see giving some to Clark as well should he come in.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:04 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Zogby says they can all beat Bush
__Bush Re-Elect Drops to 42%-47% - Tied with Unnamed Dem

"A Zogby poll released today shows that when asked if George Bush deserves re-election, only 46% of Americans said yes and a narrow majority, 47%, said it is time for someone new. The poll, with a margin of error of +/- 3%, on a generic 2004 ballot between Bush and a Democratic candidate, Bush received 47% of support, and a Democratic candidate received 44%, putting the Bush and a Democratic candidate in a statistical dead heat still a year before the Democratic candidate is selected. The second poll, released yesterday by Fox News/Opinion Dynamics and published in National Journal's Hotline showed should the 2004 election be held today, those planning to reelect Bush had dropped to 42%."

http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=5528

I'm pretty sure it'll get worse for Bush the closer we get to the election.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #5
12. Exactly...
and I've been saying so for over a year. Any Dem CAN beat Bush. With voting irregularities we need the widest margin available, so that Dem can go in with a MANDATE to govern, and bring a Dem Congress with him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. We need the margin
to avoid being robbed again by Florida 2000-style hanky-panky. It's not enough to just WIN elections anymore.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #14
26. Not only a margin....
...a monumental ass-whoopin'.

The country needs to scream "No!"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #12
19. You're really reaching here
No dem can probably bring a dem congress with him in 04, but I '06 it's a possibility

The best thing that could happen, looking at this objectively, is maybe barely gaining back the senate in 04 (50-49-1), because the odds in 04 are stacked way against the dems from just not losing more seats

and in the house the best that would probably ever happen is getting like 6 seats in the house in 04, and another 5-10 in 06, if we have a dem president who has become popular.

To do this we need an overhaul in our perception particularly in rural america and the south.

We need Edwards to do this

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #19
25. best case scenario in Senate
Dems easily pick up Senate seat in Illinois (+1)
Tenenbaum pulls an off upset against DeMint in South Carolina (0)
Knowles narrowly edges out Murkowski in Alaska (+1)
Hoeffel beats Specter in a close race or Toomey in a landslide if Toomey somehow wins the primary (+1)
Young or Michelle Nunn enter the Georgia Senate race and win (0)
Edwards or Boweles narrowly fight off Burr in North Carolina (0)
Farmer pulls off an upset against Bond in Missouri (+1)
Nickles retires in Oklahoma and Brad Carson or Drew Edmondson pick up his seat (+1)
Fred Cowan, Charlie Owen or any other candidate in Kentucky knocks off Bunning (+1)

that's a six seat pickup, putting us at 54-45-1. A long shot, but it does show there are many possibilities for retaking the Senate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:59 AM
Response to Original message
3. Kucinich...
I like 'em.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:03 PM
Response to Original message
4. First Choice Dean, Second Choice Al Gore
I'd have to go with Gore.

I can't say that I really like any of the other current candidates.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:11 PM
Response to Original message
6. First Choice Gore/Clark
Second choice Gore/Clark
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:12 PM
Response to Original message
7. Carol Moseley Braun is my second choice
I just love her :D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ryharrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:13 PM
Response to Original message
8. Kerry after Dean.
Like em both. If only Kerry was a bit more interesting to listen to.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #8
29. if only Kerry had some testicles
. . . sorry, can't stand him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:15 PM
Response to Original message
9. Clark
And my first choice isn't Dean. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:17 PM
Response to Original message
10. Kucinich
My first choice is Dean.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:50 PM
Response to Original message
11. Interesting spread
I don't know if we've done a poll like this before.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. Hi Dan.
:hi: I am so glad that we finally had some rain! My vote goes for Dennis and Howard.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. Hi Myrna!
Big thunder cracks last night. And we needed it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:05 PM
Response to Original message
15. Bob Graham
Edited on Wed Aug-20-03 01:07 PM by VermontDem2004
Wesley Clark would be my #2 if he officially jumped into the race.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:20 PM
Response to Original message
16. Dean's my second to Kerry
When Clark enters, everything changes....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:27 PM
Response to Original message
17. Haven't settled on my first choice yet.
Edited on Wed Aug-20-03 02:21 PM by burr
But of all the candidates running, Dean is the candidate I agree with on most of the issues. But I still believe it is a little early to commit to a single candidate without knowing more.

Kucinich would have been my first choice for several reasons. First, he is the only candidate proposing a National Healthcare program that would cover every citizen from birth to death. He is the only candidate proposing to bust up the monopolies and to regulate corporate control of the media. He is the only candidate running who voted against that murder of liberity labeled the Patriot Act. And he is the best candidate to protect the rights of workers in every state to join or form a union.

So why is he my second choice, not my first? First, I believe it would be a mistake to lower the retirement age of Social Security back to 65. This should not be done until we again have government surplusses without dipping into the trust fund, and have made progress in paying off the National Debt. Secondly, I do not understand his position on the issue of stem cell research. If it was human cloning he wanted to ban, he could of voted for a Democratic bill which would of done the same thing. But instead he hurts those with cancer, diabetis, and other cronic medical problems that could be cured, by voting to ban this form of research completely. Finally, I disagree with his position on "No Child Left Behind". My view is no matter how much that you fund this legislation, it will hurt not help our public education system.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 02:32 PM
Response to Original message
20. I said Kerry...
but Kucinich is starting to grow on me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 02:43 PM
Response to Original message
21. Kucinich after Gephardt
Both come from working-class backgrounds. Gephardt speaks to my head while Kucinich speaks to my heart. Both will fight for the working person against the international banking interests. I'm not so sure the others will, or can.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. I hear you.
Kucinich speaks to my heart and my head.
Kerry speaks to my head and my heart.

They both make me feel like there's great hope for this world.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #22
27. Are you stating that Gephardt is your second choice?
Or just that Kerry or Kucinich would be your first choice?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
1opinion Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:27 PM
Response to Original message
23. Sharpton is a joke.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #23
31. meaning?
Is he as big a joke as GW?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
24. Kerry, Clark or Dean
those are my top 3, and I'm not entirely sure which one I'm supporting yet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:58 PM
Response to Original message
28. I voted for Kerry.
Kerry: Everybody's second choice

How 'bout that for a campaign slogan?

No offense to Kerry folks, that line was just sitting there BEGGING to be uttered!

:evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DavidNY Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:54 PM
Response to Original message
30. I voted for Graham as my second choice...
but only because Clark is not a candidate yet. Kerry is my first choice; Graham will be a very close third if and when Clark enters, but I think Clark will edge him out by a nose.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 09:01 PM
Response to Original message
32. How about ABB? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 09:13 PM
Response to Original message
33. Kucinich is first, Kerry second
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 06th 2024, 06:32 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC