Bush Fraternity Torture? Bush stated, "It was just a coat hanger."

[bleowheels]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040715/ap_on_re_us/bush_trudeau_2

The following was pulled from the above article.

NEW YORK - Cartoonist Garry Trudeau, who has skewered politicians for decades in his comic strip "Doonesbury," tells Rolling Stone magazine he remembers Yale classmate George W. Bush as "just another sarcastic preppy who gave people nicknames and arranged for keg deliveries."

Trudeau attended Yale University with Bush in the late 1960s and served with him on a dormitory social committee.

Trudeau said he penned his very first cartoon to illustrate an article in the Yale Daily News on Bush and allegations that his fraternity, DKE, had hazed incoming pledges by branding them with an iron.

The article in the campus paper prompted The New York Times to interview Bush, who was a senior that year. Trudeau recalled that Bush told the Times "it was just a coat hanger, and ... it didn't hurt any more than a cigarette burn."

[ashling]

1. Please put some more info.

in your posts. It is not easy for my crappy old computer to jump around like that.

[bleowheels]

2. Sorry. Still learning. I have updated.

[ashling]

7. Thanks

I'm sort of stuck in the twighlight zone until I can afford a new computer.

[Warren DeMontague]

3. Yeah, those pledges fared better than the frogs he blew up as a kid...

...psychopath.

[Must_B_Free]

4. what , you got something against seared flesh?

Torture is the American Way

[alfredo]

5. The link timed out. Let's see if this works

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040715/ap_on_re_us/bush_trudeau_2

No it doesn't. You have to go to Yahoo news, type in Doonesbury into the search window to get the article.

[Deb]

6. More

Liberties; President Frat Boy?
By MAUREEN DOWD

..."The leader of the frat pack is Mr. Bush, who made his debut in The New York Times in 1967 in a story about ''frat-branding'' at Delta Kappa Epsilon, the Yale fraternity of which he was once president.

Steve Weisman, a Yale student then stringing for The New York Times (who is now a member of The Times's editorial board) reported on a Yale Daily News article accusing campus fraternities of carrying on ''sadistic and obscene'' initiation procedures.

''The charge that has caused the most controversy on the Yale campus,'' Mr. Weisman wrote, ''is that Delta Kappa Epsilon applied a 'hot branding iron' to the small of the back of its 40 new members in ceremonies two weeks ago. A photograph showing a scab in the shape of the Greek letter delta, approximately a half inch wide, appeared with the article. A former president of Delta said that the branding is done with a hot coat hanger. But the former president, George Bush, a Yale senior, said that the resulting wound is 'only a cigarette burn.' '' The fraternities were fined by the Yale Interfraternity Council.

Frat prankster George told Mr. Weisman that he was amazed that anyone was making a fuss about the branding, that at colleges in Texas they used cattle prods on pledges." ...

http://www.dke.org/fratboy.html

[AirAmFan]

8. Let's see: Dubya blew up frogs, shot Jeb with his pellet gun, branded

pledges with a hot iron, executed dozens of people without any qualms, and mocked Karla Fay Tucker ("Please don't kill me"). Then he got to Washington and stamped his feet ("I want my war!") until he could send hundreds of thousands of Americans to wear bullseyes on their backs in an unprovoked "crusade" for "energy security".

"Shock and awe", "collateral damage", and "forceful interrogation techniques" have followed. Does any previous occupant of the WH have such a record? What a monster!

[merh]

9. No wonder these freaks have referred to the Iraq prison torture as

fraternity pranks. That is what this sick psycho did while he was the frat president. It makes sense....

God help us - we have to get the sick fu** out of office.

[ThoughtCriminal]

11. Anyone who tells you it's harmless fraternity fun

Suggest they try it - just for kicks.

[merh]

12. I have and offered to buy the electric wires and car battery for that

truly shocking moment when they realize that it was more than a frat prank.

(the mainstream media will not report the prison torture again because * cannot pronouce abu gar, abooo ggarefff. imho)

[Must_B_Free]

10. Abortion? It was just a coat hanger...

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

13. Professor Bradford Lee of the Naval War College was hazed

says he still has a mark of the letter "D" he received from Dubya on his backside and called the incident of branding a terrifying experience. I assume the "D" was for the Delta fraternity and not a more sinister symbol of satanic worship.

http://www.thebird.org/host/dcdave/article4/011228.html

[Must_B_Free]

14. A delta is a triangle

maybe he branded him with a "D" for "Dubya"

[Sugarbleus]

15. A Certifiable Sociopath............what interests me is

what in the world must his parents think, really think..deep down??? Obviously they are to blame, mostly, for his personality development.

As I sit here, I can imagine that dysfunctional family realizing they have a "weird" kid. They send him to some fine school, they send him to a military service (they think he'll actually be able to handle--not), they bail him out of his failed endeavors (enablers all). They try all sorts of efforts to get this kid on the right track. It would be quaint if it weren't so tragic.

They, the Bushes, "appear" to be trying whatever they can to help georgie as if his problems were some average americans drug addicted kid where we would send our loved ones to clinics etc....the Bushes tried to do something similar except they have wealth. They opened doors for georgie when they could, so he could go to the "Top"..'maybe he do well here'....then they try something else. Then they allow him to get elected Govenor of Texas...'Maybe this will grow him up'....'Now, they've pushed their troubled son onto US!!

I know the Bushes preferred Jeb best but he wasn't available (what a bunch of Munsters these guys are, Jesus!)

I watch George's parents sitting around sloooowwwwly drawing out their thoughts on different things; acting as if NOTHING was wrong in America or with their son...like they don't see it...like they don't WANT to see it (denial). This isn't a game George Sr.! This country and the White House isn't a therapy class for your twisted offspring!!!! The LEAST the Bushes could have done was to pick someone else; someone with some marbles to get selected Prez.

I'm sorry, but that whole family has a serious flaw in it's gene pool.