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aden_nak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:04 PM Original message |
"Increasing the minimum wage hurts the poor" & other bullshit I'm tired of |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. No, but what does happen is... |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. agreed it is a tightrope |
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aden_nak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Yes, that does happen. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
34. I agree that's the issue |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. That assumes that cost increases can be passed along indefinitely |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. That is true, but we don't pass minimum wage hikes fast enough |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. All government programs/laws should be tied to inflation |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Agreed |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Say what? You are not taking into account the unbelievable huge |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I disagree completely. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I AM taking that into account. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Costco's founder and president pays himself $300,000 per yr |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Yeah, right |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. It won't change all of the sudden but shareholders will wake up |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:54 PM Original message |
They won't. |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
44. CEOs are severally mentally damaged |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
58. The ideology you refer to is wishful thinking. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
66. You are wrong, and history proves it |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 06:19 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. If history proves it |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Actually, no |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
63. Really? Prices are plummeting???? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 06:22 AM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Perhaps you need to re-read my post... |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. One of the funniest things |
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Killarney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. Two things |
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aden_nak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Exact;y , my point. |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. The Clinton era increase was largely illusionary |
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RedStateDem (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
43. Um, with respect,... you're just proving the point here |
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Killarney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. I disagree |
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RedStateDem (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. You'r missing the point... |
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WMliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. i just always resort to asking such a rethug to prove it. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
60. Depends |
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NoodleBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
8. a good response |
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aden_nak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Poor people only get money when rich people spend it. Duh. *wink* |
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bossfish (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. I'm constantly making the argument that "Supply Side"... |
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olddem43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Right, it's actually good for the economy, |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
12. What's *really* happening is the stockholders |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Punish labor to fatten capital |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. But, capital is already so fat they have to hire personal trainers.. |
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Saltdog (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
16. NO, NO, NO!!! |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
18. Do you know any factory workers making minimum wage? |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Which is exactly the issue, it desperately needs to be raised. |
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PsN2Wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
23. Yeh, I remember twenty some years ago |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
27. saying that an increased minimum wage will |
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kimchi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Hi manic expression! |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
28. The fallacy here is actually |
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leftyandproud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
30. it does hurt SMALL businesses... |
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aden_nak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I don't want extremes. |
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leftyandproud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Everything in politics is a tradeoff.. |
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aden_nak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Agreed. |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. If many small businesses failed |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
61. Here we see the purpose of most gov't regulation |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Economics isnt quite that simple. |
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leftyandproud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. say you own a small ice cream parlor.. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. but then, |
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The Flaming Red Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Teens have babies to support |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. What do you propose? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. just hire one teen-- |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. That's not even the only issue... |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
62. In my opinion, wages ought to be |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 05:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
64. You're forgetting purchasing power |
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aden_nak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
39. I just got mail from Jorge! |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. wh00t! |
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aden_nak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 10:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. Yeah, it really should be hate mailbag worthy. I need to start my own. |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
48. Plain and simple, Unregulated Capitalism FUCKING SUCKS |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Capitalism is an artificial system. |
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West Coast Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
51. I've heard righties claim it would only cause inflation to raise it.... |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Since the government prints the money |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. That isnt entirely true. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
56. So, Conversely... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
65. Quite. There is no such thing as corporate responsibility either: |
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aden_nak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 08:01 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Well of course there isn't. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-04 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
67. Attention DUers go see "THE CORPORATION" |
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