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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:33 PM
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Will Tom DeLay resign before weeks end???
Washington Post cover story tomorrow shows Delay requested donations from Enron execs for redistricting effort...

Bye Bye Tom.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:34 PM
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1. he would if
any of these f'ers had an iota of shame. but they don't. they will drag him kicking and sreaming.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:38 PM
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4. If he had any shame ...
he would do the honorable thing.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:42 PM
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7. He would if
he had any sense.

Taking a combative stance to brave it out is not very smart.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:35 PM
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2. OMG
Do you have a link? That is the best news I have heard all day.
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shawmut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:40 PM
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5. It's on Drudge
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:54 PM
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15. Here's the story so far
ENRON DOCUMENTS SHOW TOM DELAY'S REDISTRICTING EFFORTS... MORE... WASH POST PLANNING ENTIRE ABOVE-FOLD FRONT PAGE SPLASH, NEWSROOM SOURCES TELL DRUDGE. 3,200-WORD STORY... // DeLay requested donation come from 'combination of corporate and personal money from Enron's executives,' with the understanding that it would be partly spent on "the redistricting effort in Texas," said the e-mail to Ken Lay... The e-mail, which surfaced in a subsequent federal probe of ENRON, is one of at least a dozen documents obtained by POST that show DeLay and his associates directed funds from corporations and Washington lobbyists to Republican campaign coffers... MORE...
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:36 PM
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3. Three big hugs for this post!
:toast:
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:41 PM
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6. Yes!
Edited on Sun Jul-11-04 07:42 PM by pinto
Well, I have no inside info but still I post Yes, yes, yes........
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:42 PM
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8. "Requested donations" ? Doesn't that mean he asked for bribes ?
:shrug:
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:43 PM
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10. as in "illegal"......
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:00 PM
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20. I Hope and Wish to hear of this Very Bad man to go to prison for
his dastardly crimes. He should be banished from the Nation, tarred and feathered, and put into the stock for a week so people might mock him... with eggs and tomatos.

He is not a Man ... not in our Realm where true Manhood is cherished and Honored. He played the game like a Coward does, the sneaky way...

He deserves a White Feather...
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:43 PM
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9. This will be interesting!
If only...........
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:44 PM
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11. not just Delay
all those Texas repugs that fought so hard for that redistricting, everyone will want to know if they're in Enron's pockets too.

:bounce:

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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:45 PM
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12. He will not resign. He will not be removed or reprimanded. He will remain
and be returned to office in November, by the idiot voters in that district- Sugarland..is it? I hope I am wrong but I have been let down so many times since Iran/Contra . I would not get my hopes us on this or Plame
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:01 PM
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23. The only way he resigns is if he is forced to for the "good of the party."
Kind of like Lott. He fought it for a couple of weeks and finally disgraced, stepped down as Speaker.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:54 PM
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28. Check out this article about who is investigating him...read and weep...
:-( I can't believe how the Repugs get away with this stuff....

July 11, 2004, 11:35AM
Reviewers of DeLay's ethics got his money
Associated Press


AUSTIN -- Four of the five Republicans investigating an ethics complaint against House Majority Leader Tom DeLay have received campaign contributions from DeLay's political action committee, records show.

The contributions -- $28,504 split among the four during the past seven years -- were all delivered before the ethics committee received the DeLay complaint June 15. But it is an example of awkward situations spawned by the U.S. House's decision to police itself on ethics.

"I think all the members hate" serving on the committee, said Larry Noble, executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan government watchdog.

"You're put in the position of either doing nothing -- which is what they generally do -- in which case you are fairly criticized for not taking your job seriously. On the other hand, you can try to enforce the rules and get all the other members angry at you," Noble told today's Austin American-Statesman.

MORE....
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/politics/2674446
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:03 PM
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31. I saw this in the LBN thread on this subject.
I think the call would come from a little higher up than the House. You are correct though, if this dies here, nothing happens to him.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:50 PM
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13. Let's not get ahead of ourselves: cockroaches are the ultimate
SURVIVORS.... (unfortunately)

Nonetheless, he's in a shit load of doo doo! (and that makes me very happy)
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:53 PM
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14. Are you kidding? Last I heard, the republicans control the House.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:00 PM
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21. The ethics committee is evenly balanced...
as i understand it, though. Tom's in a world of shit over the Westar donation and Chris Bell's ethics complaint. This Enron stuff will bury him.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:46 PM
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26. Are you kidding? Many on the ethics committee have received $ from his PAC
I hope he serves time, the cockroach. What scum.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:57 PM
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29. It will have to get as bad as the Jim Traficant case. Maybe it is?
Since Delay pretty much controls the republicans, he will probably slither out of it.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 11:12 PM
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40. Many of the REPUBLICANS on the committee have received $$$...
big difference.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:56 PM
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16. he won't leave willingly
unless it's feet first.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:56 PM
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17. no way and it speaks VOLUMES re: gop ethics. nt
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:59 PM
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18. Don't play with me JS45. Please, lord, let it be true!
I know a couple of Repub Congressmen socially who would love to see Delay ousted. Just like they loved the poetic demise of the ultra-hypocrite Newt Gingrich.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:00 PM
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19. Who is going to investigate him? He runs the freakin place.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:01 PM
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22. Maybe he will resign his "leadership" post a la Trent Lott
I live in Texas and I would love that two bit exterminator out of there. But those republicans have no shame/pride. He will stay as long as the republicans are in control.

BUT, I like how it adds onto the pile of shit that is being foisted on top of this administration. THey won't be able to shovel out of it. Then when they try to "cancel" the elections and declare martial law, there is going to be a revolution in this country.

ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGHH
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:34 PM
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24. Folks...this is an ELECTION year...
Bushco will remove ANYTHING that is politically damaging.

Think Trent Lott on steroids.

I think DeLay is FINALLY going down....
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:41 PM
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25. Some DeLay refreshers...
From January 2003:

http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/8086

Westar anyone?

This guy is dirtier than Dick Cheney's mouth at a little league game.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:52 PM
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27. I was just thinking this sounded just like the Westar shakedown
Didn't they all get out of that with not even a slap on the wrist?
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:58 PM
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30. well,
a senior house republican aide says in the timeframe he mentions, it was before enron was notorious and long before campaign finance reform.


seems there's always an excuse.
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:06 PM
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32. Delays phoney Kids Charity
went to fund Rep. fat cat parties.
This will be his Achilles heel.

A resignation is unlikly but I would celebrate it long and loud.
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wyethwire Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:17 PM
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33. kick
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:22 PM
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34. Congressional Ethics Committee
Now there is an oxymoron if I ever heard one.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:23 PM
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35. He's out.
If this is really full splash above the fold that's highly unusual for an investigative story. The WP obviously thinks this is big medicine, so I'll say he's toast.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:34 PM
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36. Is this the "tectonic plates" story
we heard so much about? If Drudge is right, prolly is it...
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:40 PM
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38. Disclaimer...DeLay was my guess for that story but I didn't put it
in the Washington Post tomorrow... :)
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:39 PM
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37. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, stories like these just warm my heart!!!
:loveya:
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:59 PM
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39. No he'll never resign.
In fact his Freeper ridden district will re-elect him in a landslide. They just don't care how corrupt he is.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 11:33 PM
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41. Not until he lays his egg sac under his desk, Mr. Big Bug he is.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 11:41 PM
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42. Link to Wash Post article
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 11:51 PM
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43. Some quotes from the Post article
"DeLay has not been named as a target of the investigation. The prosecutor has said he is focused on the activities of political action committees linked to DeLay and the redistricting effort. But officials in the prosecutor's office say anyone involved in raising, collecting or spending the corporate money, who also knew of its intended use in Texas elections, is vulnerable."

"Several weeks ago, DeLay hired two criminal defense attorneys to represent him in the probe."
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:07 AM
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44. Everytime I turn on C-Span coverage of the two houses
...I keep expecting to see the republicans on their knees, taking turns licking the shit from Bush's asshole and smearing it on the Constitution...

because that's what they're doing metaphorically.

Bush's entire junta should have fallen by now, including those in the two legislative branches who refuse to bring charges for criminal offenses, and including the Supreme Court 5 who violated their oath of office when they installed this sickening junta in the first place.

Outrageous crimes call for outrageous images.

the republican shitlickers.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:13 AM
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45. kick
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