Ideas wanted: What should my sign say for Chicago protest on Saturday?

[prolesunited]

I have a couple in my closet -- one that has "No blood for oil" as its theme and another depicting the Iraqi casualties of war. This time I would like to focus on the soldiers.

So, what are your suggestions for wording/visuals?

BTW, here's the details in case any other Chicago-area folks are interested. (Thanks to IkeWarnedUs for posting this in activism.)

Assemble at Noon, Saturday, August 23
Federal Plaza, Adams & Dearborn, Chicago
http://www.chicagoantiwar.org/

Talking points from their Web site:
* The war in Iraq is NOT over. We've lost more troops in the 'second' Gulf war than in the first - and the body count is rising daily.
* Bush lied. Thousands of Iraqis died for a falsehood -- non-existent weapons of mass destruction -- and millions suffer from lack of water, food, shelter, the most basic human needs.
* Politically connected companies like Haliburton, Brown & Root and Bechtel are making millions as war profiteers, while our troops and Iraqi civilians become mired in a deepening cycle of violence and hopelessness.
* State governments are broke and officials are gutting health care and education -- while military spending is soaring and on the largest military machine in history.
* The Pentagon brass has told soldiers they could be court martialed for telling the truth about what's really going on in Iraq. While morale sinks lower daily, G.I.'s are told they may not come home for months or longer, and we are now being told that the U.S. military occupation of Iraq may last for years.

[Kolesar]

1. War is NOT Pro-Life

[Friar]

2. Impeach Bush, You Morans!!!!

But that would probably be to subtle a satire.

[Plaid Adder]

3. I have one that says:

"Yo George, it's LIBERATE, not OBLITERATE." My partner has one that says "Occupation is not Liberation."

C ya,

The Plaid Adder

[prolesunited]

6. Do you think

you'll be out there Saturday? Anonymously, of course.

[Plaid Adder]

9. Anonymously speaking, it's a good bet

although not definite.

C ya,

The Plaid Adder

[Cronus Protagonist]

63. *click* wrrr...rrrrrr *clunk* SloganBot 2003 Activated

86 43 IN 04
Abort Bush
Abortion laws create cannon fodder
After two years in office, he finally gets an economic policy -- and it's for Iraq!
Another Bush. Another Recession. Another War.
Another patriot for peace.
ANYONE but Bush
Anything war can do peace can do better
Anything war can do, peace can do better.
Axis of Evil: Supreme Clowns, Media Whores and Darth Nader
Bipartisanship: I'll hug your elephant if you'll kiss my ass
Bombed if they do, bombed if they don't
Bravo Uniform Sierra Hotel can go Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo himself.
Bring democracy to Iraq? We need to bring democracy to Florida.
Buck Fush!
Burn Bush Burn
Bush + Moonies a new world odor.
Bush = Death
Bush does the lying; kids do the dying
Bush had the support of the media, entire world & a bipartisan Congress to get Osama and he failed.
Bush inherited a democracy and turned into his personal sandbox.
Bush inherited peace and turned it into a never-ending war.
Bush inherited prosperity and turned it into recession.
Bush inherited surpluses and turned them into deficits.
Bush is an empty war head
Bush is on crack again! Don't attack Iraq again!
Bush Lied People Died
Bush Lied Soldiers Died
BUSH LIHOP
Bush only represents the people in the gated communities... without trailers.
Bush shouldn't be President of the United States, he should be President of the Cayman Islands.
Bush sold anthrax and VX to Saddam now our children are supposed to die to get it back.
Bush Talks: Markets Fall
Bush took an IQ test and the results were negative.
Bush turned my 401k into a 201k.
Bush wants a world war. Do you?
Bush wants to roll back the New Deal and make it the Raw Deal.
Bush's Dad Financed Saddam and Osama
Bush's Grandpa financed Hitler
Bush. War. Repeat.
Bush/Cheney: America's second choice
Bush: If you were rich and evil he would vote for you
Bush: Serial Truth Molester
Bush: The Most Hated Man Alive
Can the economy handle any more of the Bush administration's fuzzy math and Enronomics?
Chirac, merci pour nous donner une voi
Clinton got a BJ Bush is screwing US
Dick Cheney Before He Dicks YOU!
Dissent is patriotic
Do nothing Bush sat on the Clinton plan to defeat Al Qauida and let 9/11 happen.
Do you really feel more secure in a Pentecostal police state?
Don't Arm a Son of a Bush
Don't blame me, I voted with the majority.
Don't do it George, Dad will still love you.
Don't let King George send you home in a box
Draft Jenna!
Drunken Frat Boy Drives Country into a Ditch
Dubya has a job - do you?
Dubya has a retirement fund - do you?
Elect a madman: you get madness
End World War W
Every time Clinton attacked the terrorists, the right cried "wag the dog".
Fascism: The Conservative Notion That Killing People Makes Them Work Harder
Feel Safer Yet?
Fighting for peace is like fucking for chastity.
Florida: Electile Dysfunction
For Death. Debt. Deceit. Vote Bush-Cheney.
Friends don't let Friends Vote Republican
Go Solar, not Ballistic.
God is Santa Claus for adults.
Good guys don't shoot first.
Google this: "Bush 9/11 Treason"
Google this: "Bush AWOL"
Google this: "Bush Hinckley Reagan dinner"
Google this: "Bush Hitler"
Google this: "Bush Knew"
Google this: "Bush Moon"
Gore was already a Vietnam veteran and a congressman when George W Bush was a drunk-driving alcoholic business failure.
Got Democracy?
Having a Bush in the White House is like having a cancer on our currency.
Heil to the Thief
How did our oil get under their sand?
How many Cayman Island bank accounts does the Bush family have?
How many lives per gallon, Mr. Bush?
I didn't order this war and I'm not gonna pay for it!
I didn't vote for his Daddy, either.
I survived the Y2K election and all I got was this lousy president.
I thought George Sr. was smarter, but the hats they're wearing show W beat him by 2 IQ points.
I voted for Gore, but Bush won the trifecta
I'd let Clinton f*ck Monica on the desk of the oval office if we could just have another 8 years of peace and prosperity.
I'd rather have a president who gets blown by a citizen than one who blows corporate CEOs.
If Bush had stayed in baseball we wouldn't be in a war.
If I vote Republican will I get a job?
If I'd wanted to live in a fascist country, I would have voted Republican.
If Iraq is so dangerous, why did Bush go on vacation for a month this year and last year?
If you got a pink slip, thank Bush in the voting booth.
If you like everything that's happened in the Bush administration, why even vote?
If you put Bush's brain in a hummingbird, it would fly backwards.
Illegitimate Baby Bush
Impeach Bush - Traitor to American Ideals
Impeach Cheney First - Then His Monkey
Invest in America, Buy a Congressman
Is it fascism yet?
It ain't over till your brother counts the votes
It's NUCLEAR, not NUCULAR, you idiot!
It's the oil, stupid.
Jack Kevorkian for White House physician.
Jail to the Thief
Jesus was a liberal Jew
Leave NO Corporation behind.
Let US lead the way to peace
Lobotomies for Republicans: It's the Law!
Make love, not war! Lick Bush now!
Make sense, not war
My boy's life is worth more than a few barrels of oil.
My President went on vacation and all he brought back was this lousy war.
Negotiation Not Annihilation.
NO BLOOD FOR OIL
No Dubya Dubya III
No one died when Clinton lied.
No War, No Way, No Fascist USA.
Occupation IS NOT Liberation
Oh Say can You Cease?
Oh, quit whining, Bush is an idiot, get over it already.
Old Glory Is Not A Corporate Logo
One nation under surveillance.
Operation Ending Freedom
Osama says, "Please attack Iraq--recruiting is down"
Our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over.
Party like it's 1984
Pay no attention to the rich white men behind the curtain.
Perpetual war - this is the "kinder, gentler America" Bush promised?
Pick Fruit, not Fights
Power to the peaceful
Preempt war
President Bush inherited the strongest economy in history. Now the economy stinks. Any questions?
Question Authority
Re-Defeat Bush in 2004
Re-Elect Gore in 04
Read between the pipelines
Read my apocalypse, armageddon angry
Real Americans pay their taxes.
Resistance is Fertile.
Save the fetus, screw the children, kill the adults
Say can you see my democracy?
Select the loser as president, you get a loser president
Send The Twins!
Shock and awe equals blitz and kreig
Smart weapons, Dumb president.
Some may think Bush is a Texan, but he's not - Bush's favorite steed is a golf cart.
Star Spangled Bummer
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease!
The Bush administration is a well-oiled machine
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The only rocket that should be going off is the one in my pants
The only thing we have to fear is Bush himself.
The poor die, the rich profit
The Road to Hell is Paved with Republicans
There is enough religion in the world for men to hate each other, but not enough to love
There you go again, repeating lies about Al Gore - why not face up to the truth about George Bush the failure?
There's Blood In Your Tank
They hate us for our freedom to kill them
Thief in Chief
Think Outside the Barrel
Vote them Out
W - that looks like a double-dip recession graph.
W = WARMONGER
Walk for peace now or run for your life later
War costs--schools pay
War is expensive, Peace is priceless.
War is NOT Pro-Life
War sucks--Ask a vet
Was it the eight years of peace or the eight years of prosperity that pisses you off?
We don't have a Democracy, We have an Auction
We impeached a president for making love. What should we do to one who makes war?"
We know why corporate raiders vote for Bush, why would you?
We need a war on greed
We used to have a surplus, Bush is in charge and he turned the surplus into a massive deficit.
Wellstone Dead. War Alive.
What has the idiot Bush boy given us, besides a new skyline in New York?
When a Bush is bought, he stays bought.
When I grew up I was told anybody could become president, now I see what they mean.
When Republicans get the finger pointed at them, they investigate the finger.
Where were you in '72? Bush doesn't remember, do you?
Who is that idiot, and what is he doing in Al Gore's house?
Who would Jesus bomb?
Why should we ask our military to die for cheap oil when the rest of us aren't even being asked to get better mileage?
Why stop at Jesus? Crucify ALL liberals!
Would you rather have a blow job or no job?
You can't spell Bush without the BS.
You've seen how much Dubya can shrink your 401-K's in just two years what he will do next?


Fair & Balanced Buttons — The Cronus Connection

[JPace]

74. Cronus......

I am impressed by your slogan list, did
you create it all yourself?

[Cronus Protagonist]

87. I've been keeping this list since election 2000

And I'm keeping it going. I add my own and other people's ideas when I think they're good ones.


Fair & Balanced Buttons — The Cronus Connection

[prolesunited]

100. Thank you for sharing

It's one of the most comprehensive lists I've ever seen.

[Ouabache]

92. Add these: OUTSOURCE BU$H and PRIVATIZE BU$H

OUTSOURCE BU$H and

PRIVATIZE BU$H


I think they would strike a nerve with a few voters

[wtmusic]

4. Slaughtergate

(Ted Rall)
or another favorite:

U.N.appreciated

[prolesunited]

14. Very inventive

What would you include for additional text and visuals?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

79. "IRAQNAM"

[SoCalDem]

5. Here's an idea

Cheney/Halliburton
Bush/Bechtel
Chevron/BP/Gulf/Aramco


Money, Money everywhere


" nor any drop to drink"


Soldiers don't have enough water


127 degree heat...under fire

[mourningdove92]

7. AMERICA BETRAYED!

No WMD's
No Al-Qaeda Link

[proud patriot]

8. pro Constitution pro troops = anti bush

:hi:

[Plaid Adder]

10. I had to throw this one out, so you can have it for free:

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE

(with little illustrations of flaming trousers)

C ya,

The Plaid Adder

[SoCalDem]

12. ANOTHER COUPLE OF IDEAS

---

[MiltonLeBerle]

11. Bush Is Making A Wreck of Iraq.

Regime Change Begins At Home.

Recall Bush- Vote Democratic in 2004.

[snippy]

13. Bring 'em home you cowardly mother fucking AWOL lying sack of shit.

You might want to shorten it.

[Bozita]

80. It would lose some of its subtlety if it were shortened.

[snippy]

85. Good point.

[Generic Other]

15. You can find a great stencil here

www.onetermpresident.org

Some have suggested it needs a new slogan since this one is inaccurate. I say drop the "p."

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

16. BUSH - Major League aWol

[IranianDemocrat]

17. "WE'RE QUEER! WE'RE HERE!"

woops sorry wrong event.

[prolesunited]

18. Did you have a point?

:shrug:

[Skittles]

19. BUSH SUCKS

it's short and to the point. SAY IT LOUD; SAY IT PROUD.

[huckleberry]

20. One of my favorites ...

is a picture of a smirking bush saying "I ruined America". I can't find it now though. :(

[chadm]

37. That is good

One of the best I've heard.

[realFedUp]

21. Bring 'em home

.

[goddess40]

24. Bring 'em on (cross out on) and add Home nt

.

[ewagner]

22. How 'bout

MR pRESIDENT!

WHERE ARE THE JOBS?

[Oilwellian]

23. I protested the war in DC w/a sign that said:

Protect our troops from sleazy politicians and war profiteers.

[linazelle]

25. Bush Lied People Died makes them furious....they hate it with a passion

on other boards. So use it and shove it down their damned throats. It's really catchy and drives them out of their minds...it's the best meme our side's had so far IMHO.

[Hailtothechimp]

27. Does "BU$H LIED. SOLDIERS DIED" have more bite?

Not to minimize the Iraqis and journalists who have also perished in this ill-advised adventure, but the thought of all of the American fighting people who have given their lives for this makes me so damned mad.

I live in Chicago, and if I thought Daley's goons wouldn't get stupid like they did when the war started, I'd be out there. I still might be. We'll see.

[deacon]

30. or, Bu$h Lies Soldiers Die

leaving off the 'd' to make it present tense.

[xxqqqzme]

46. I have a sign that says

this. At last friday's squatter protest, a oerson pointed out it should read present tense - squatter LIES, soldier's DIE. I'm changing my sign. I think present tense has a bigger punch.

My favorite was a sign I saw @ LA Century City. A picture of Clinton over a picture of squatter - 'Better a blowjob (WJC pic) than a c*cksucker'(GWB pic).

[GregW]

26. "ICE BUSH'S IRAQ-TION"

Wish I'd thought of it ... saw it at a Eugene protest.

[pizzathehut]

28. What do you REALLY want to accomplish with this??

Remember your trying to change the minds of average people, not just preach to the choir. So "Bush Sucks" or "No Blood for Oil" and especially "We're here, we're Queer". Do nothing but make you a look like a nutcase.

The right wing press loves to pick out the nutty signs and people in demonstrations. So frankly i avoid them because I think they are just a way for people trying to vent on whatever cause suits there fancy. And the attitudes some of them make a joke of any positive message others have. I remember one woman who ran the local NOW said it best "The most violent people I've ever met were peace protesters".

So do it right, or dont do it at all.

[prolesunited]

31. Huh?!?!

"The most violent people I've ever met were peace protesters"

One woman's opinion and you take it as gospel and use it to condemn an entire movement?

Well, I have more anecdotal evidence for you. If you look back at antiwar protests just who was threatening who? The war supporters called us treasonous traitors and I recall stories of people having things thrown at them or being spit upon. Confrontations were initiated by those who supported the war and protesters just stood their ground. There was a suggestion floating around that you should repeatedly punch a war protester to demonstrate to them that nonviolence doesn't work.

If you are talking about anarchists or the black bloc, it would be as fair as using the KKK to characterize Conservatives as it would be using anarchists to characterize the peace movement. Anyway, they were only active in a few locations like D.C. and S.F. and certainly did not have the endorsement of organizers.

Furthermore, I'm quite surprised a NOW spokeswoman would even say that considering NOW's support of choice. If you want to talk violence among protest groups, anti-abortion fanatics certainly have cornered the market between clinic bombings and murdering abortion providers. But the woman from NOW thought peace advocates were more violent. :shrug:

BTW, we are not protesting peace, we are protesting war.

[goddess40]

32. Violence

We have been holding peaceful protests in our town since October 2002. Some of the incidents against us by pro-war people: physically attacked protesters twice, knocked them down and kicked them; ran their car up on the curb and over our signs; threw objects at us; physically threatened two women protesters by walking at them forcing them to walk backward to avoid being run down; followed our protesters around and held their flags so they hit the protesters in the face; local radio host Pat Snyder encouraged callers to his show who said they would shoot, strangle and drown protesters. In Brainard, Minnesota peace protesters were not allowed to march in the 4th of July parade as the local police felt they could not protect them from the war crowd. There has not been one incident of the peace people attacking the war crowd. So now, who's violent?

[prolesunited]

34. That's exactly what I'm talking about

Thank you for having the courage of your convictions! Being in the Chicago area, it's more Democratic and much less confrontational. Rows upon rows of riot-clad police were the biggest source of intimidation here.

Are your protests continuing? Are your numbers picking back up? What general area of the country are you in?

[goddess40]

44. Continuing Protests

No, the numbers are not increasing. Right now there are only four of us who are the faithful protesters. The encouraging factor is that almost every week at least one or two people take the time to come over and thank us for what we are doing. Also, the reaction from the people driving by has become increasingly positive in the past several weeks. We get a lot more thumbs up, peace signs and toots than we used to get. And a lot fewer middle fingers.

[goddess40]

45. Continuing protests

Forgot to say we live in central Wisconsin--very conservative.

[goddess40]

81. most violent people I've ever met were peace protesters. WHAT?

I remember one woman who ran the local NOW said it best "The most violent people I've ever met were peace protesters".



http://www.now.org/

I'd report that to the NOW web site, I think they would want to know.

[oasis]

29. America's tired of B.S.( B ans S are enlarged and tiny (u) and (h)

in place of the periods.)

[Octafish]

33. Power Outage Traced to Dim Bulb in White House

Thanks to Greg Palast.

http://www.gregpalast.com/

Good luck in Chicago, prolesunited! Give Bushler the what's for!

Heil, Bush!



Courtesy of the Bartcop Collection

[wwwunspunmediaorg]

36. I KNOW!

Ok, take a picture of Osama, put a striped Wheres Waldo hat on him, and write under it, "WHERES OSAMA?"

Find a pic of a child damaged from depleted uranium and write under it "Bush used Depleted Uranium! It's a war crime!"

[midnitemoleman]

35. "Hey I got your Bush & Dick right here!"

Of course I'm Italian so it mite be a little strong.

[Octafish]

38. Smirk-n-Sneer

on the back would drive home the pointy heads.

[John_H]

39. Bring 'em on with the "on" crossed out and replaced with ":home"

might be catchy

[redeye]

40. Hmmm...

3000 dead Americans: huge fuss
7000 dead Iraqis: nobody cares

[MurrayDelph]

41. How about

Support the Troops: Impeach Bush!

[JHB]

42. This Administration has Gone....

...(several crossed out numbers) 3 Minutes without LYING.

(change the number occasionaly)

[JHB]

43. "The Biggest Power Failure is in Washington"

.

[Kipper58]

47. How about "GOT KIDS? - THE DRAFT IS COMING"

that's bound to make even the most hardened pro-war parent think about the possibility of their child dying in Iraq.

[hang a left]

95. THat is real good

Let everyone know more sh*t is coming!

Got Kids? Feel the Draft?

[pizzathehut]

48. Ok, forget my peace protesters being violent line and go back...

What is the overall message your trying to get across and how can you say it in a constructive matter that wont have "average" peole thinking your crazy?

Remember your trying to change the mind of the average person. A worn out slogan like "no Blood for Oil" and "Bush Sucks" wont really work to change anybodies mind.

Maybe you can use a market analysis approach. Your not going to change the minds of certain prowar people. And some people are already on your side, you dont want them switching over. Its the middle ground where you can make the most difference. I suggest trying to talk to those people and developing a marketing strategy based upon what you learn. I know it sounds complicated but you have to outthink you opponents.

It wouldnt even hurt to go on that radio station. Antiwar people went on stations here and did a pretty good job. Just be ready for what they throw at you. Good luck!

[prolesunited]

50. Thank you for being willing to backpedal a bit

:-)

I agree with the rest of what you are saying. I wouldn't have used many of the slogans here because they are too strident for my personal tastes. Given the limited space of a sign, it is quite difficult to convey a complicated, nuanced message.

Don't have time to do a focus group between now and Saturday (Working 1 1/2 jobs, I'll be lucky to find time to make the sign.), but you obviously have some background in this area.

Out of the ideas presented here, what do you think would resonate? What visuals would you go with?

[pizzathehut]

52. Well to be honest...

none of them.

Well first thanks for reading the rest of my blip and responding. I hate when people pick apart others peoples stuff without looking at their main points. It makes me not want to write anything to deep.

Ok, saying that you asked and I'll tell you I didnt read any sign idea that would have made any "average" person think or heavens tell, change their mind. Did you????

You say you dont have time to do a focus group. Working 1 1/2 jobs means being around alot of people. Ask some of them! And remember. LISTEN! Then thank people for giving you input. Remember even people with different opinions are human beings just as important as you are.

So I'd like to ask again 3 main questions:
1. What is the overall goal or message your trying to get across??
is it attainable or even possible? ex. saying "Peace Now" or "Impeach Bush" wont happen. Dont waste your time.
2. What is your target audience?
3. What message do you want to avoid?


When I was in college I spent alot of prep time working on projects before I commited anything to paper or computer code. I researched, asked questions, drew things out. I spent many hours in prayer before I asked my wife to marry me, before I took a job, and before most other major decisions.


Please think about this for awhile. Remember changes can happen in small steps and changing one persons attitude at a time.

Good luck!

[prolesunited]

53. Unfortunately

if you knew what I did for a living, you would understand why I can't use my co-workers as my focus group -- not, of course, if I wanted to remain employed anyway. I will give it some more thought, but I don't think a single sign is going to change anyone's mind.

As you know, people have to hear a message multiple times in multiple formats before it will even bubble up into their consciousness. The face-to-face contact that I have with friends and family on a daily basis has done far more to change any minds than a protest march.

To me, the impact of a protest in numbers -- how many people felt passionately about something to get up off their butts and turn off the TV -- not necessarily what each individual message is. I also think its important tool in engaging and solidifying the communal bonds among people.

[pizzathehut]

57. Still try to answer my 3 questions

that I mentioned earlier to determine the best choice.

You can ask people questions in a non-confrontational way. I work with alot of people who see me as some sort of leftist but I've changed some of their opinions.

[diamondsoul]

56. Here's one

Get one of the numerous shots of an Iraqi kid with those little binder cuffs and blindfold on. Caption it with "Is THIS what Bush calls LIBERATION?"

Get a shot of Saddam = a shot of gassed Iraqis. Beneath it a shot of Bush = a shot of dead soldiers and then the caption

"What's the real difference?"

[fob]

49. I think a coordinated "reverse psychology" effort would send

him running for a bag of pretzels.

Sign idea to accomplish "RP" -

G W - we just wanna have a beer with you!

On the reverse could be; How did an admitted recovering alcoholic get the reputation as "a guy you just wanna have a beer with?"

Or a play on his "I know it's a budget it's got numbers in it" quote,

I know it's a body bag, it's got an American soldier in it!

[sexybomber]

51. A poster with 269 little pictures of flag-draped coffins

Such as this one (ripped off from bartcop.com)



"Bush lied, Soldiers Died"

[HereSince1628]

54. Bush Image and "Wanted for Wrongful Deaths," on the reverse

First Tony,
THEN George!

[JM]

55. Here are several

1) Bill lied, Hil cried - Bush lied, thousands died
2) Support Operation Enduring Recession
3) Support Operation Jobless Recovery

Later,
JM

[HereSince1628]

58. I like "operation jobless recovery"

I think I will add that to the gaggle of stickers holding my rusting hulk of a car together...

[snippy]

59. AUGUST 6, 2001

This would be most effective if there were enough of these to arouse curiosity among nonprotesters.

[prolesunited]

60. You've aroused my curiousity

At the risk of sounding like a dolt, what is the significance of that date?

[snippy]

65. That was the day Bush recieved an intelligence briefing which warned

of an impending terrorist attack against the US which might involve hijacked airplanes.

[sistersofmercy]

78. Oooooooo! That's good, real good!!

[hang a left]

96. Or

BUSH KNEW-TOWERS BLEW

oR

BUSH KNEW-BEFORE TOWERS BLEW

[Aaron]

61. A few ideas

I'm not an expert on protesting, so the others here may have better ones - I think the focus on middle issues, like soldier and Iraqi deaths, vet benefits cuts, etc may be more effective than something like no blood for oil which may make it easier to mark protesters as 'fringe' or left-wingers.
To that extent:
Bush Lied - People Died
Bush Lied - They died (with picture of US soldiers or Iraqi kids/elderly)
Stop cutting their benefits (picture of disabled vets)

[gully]

62. Somewhere in Texas a village is missing it's idiot...or?

"yee haw is not sound foreign policy" Sorry if that's anti south. Don't mean it to be. I love the south mmmk?

[Robbien]

64. How about

"Support Bush

Send your kid to die in Iraq"


It was effective when I saw it.

[prolesunited]

66. Wow!

That one felt like a blow to the stomach. Where did you see that?

[Robbien]

67. North suburb of Chicago

My sign now says this also. It's effective isn't it?

[prolesunited]

71. So, if you live near Chicago

will you be at the Federal Plaza on Saturday?

[Robbien]

73. Never been downtown for a protest

Have been thinking about it. Not sure yet.

[pizzathehut]

82. Well since people are saying it anyways

how about " I love giving the left a bad name"
or "I have nothing better to do with my life"
or "This Looked Cool back in the 60's"
or simply "I'm Preaching to the Choir"

either way no slogans I've seen yet are going to change anyones mind.

I suggest instead you organize a funddrive to support the families of servicemen who died or were injured in combat.

[hang a left]

97. WHY don't you cruise on back

to the freepertown you came from!

[prolesunited]

83. Why not try to make it?

Here's the info again:
Assemble at Noon, Saturday, August 23
Federal Plaza, Adams & Dearborn, Chicago
http://www.chicagoantiwar.org/

I have been at several. There is a real mix of people, ages, colors, classes. A lot of cops, but didn't see them bothering anyone.

[pizzathehut]

86. Cant, I'm from KC although my wife, kids and I visited Chicago

in June and enjoyed it. Except for all the traffic, now THERES something to get mad about. We especially enjoyed the art museum and seeing all those famous paintings.

Also I have kids and I hate it when people in demonstrations put their kids in the front line so they get a sympathy vote from people. But some people do anything for the cameras.

I still think your wasting your time, theres nothing constructive to come out of this and your probably going to turn more people against your cause than make converts. You'll be out with a bunch of idiots with stupid slogans who have made protesting the biggest thing in their life. Whod like to throw things at polics and break windows for an afternoon of fun.


Good luck.

[prolesunited]

90. If you look at the threading

my invitation was directed at Robbien, not you. You have made it abundantly clear how you feel about protests -- I'm not trying to force you to come but I don't know why you are so adamant about discouraging others from coming.

Just so you know, I do have better things to do with my life but feel this is important -- just because you don't agree doesn't mean you're the final arbiter on whether protesting is a waste of time.

Civil disobedience is a long-standing tradition that has effected many changes in our country. I guess all them women-folk should have stayed home instead of lobbying for the right to vote or the union organizers shouldn't have pushed for child labor laws and better working conditions. I'm sure the country would be a better place if the march on Washington, which marks its anniversary this weekend, had not taken place. I'm sure there were plenty of critics telling these people to just stay home.

Furthermore, I've been to several protests in Chicago and I have to disagree with your observations. The protests drew people from all walks of life, including seniors, veterans, entire families, and religious groups representing many faiths. The harsh images you may have seen on your television certainly are not representative of what is out here in Chicago.

Protesting is NOT the biggest thing in my life, but I am trying to fight for my country the best way I know how and this is just one of many things in which I am involved. You obviously have your own strategies and that's great. Why trash someone else's?

Lastly, the protests in Chicago have NOT been violent. I ascribe to the philosophies of Ghandi and King. If violence was a part of this, I would not be taking part. I have never thrown anything at police or destroyed property, nor would I. In fact, if I saw that taking place, which I never have, I would try to stop it.

[pizzathehut]

93. The reason I trash demonstrations is that believe it or not I

want you to succeed. But your method (mass protesting)of putting forth the message will only turn people against us. Frankly I think you want to do something and people like you have gotten into the habit of protesting so much you dont even stop to think how it ceased to be a legitimate method of getting your point across 30 years ago.
Dont believe me? Think about how when the war started demonstrators jammed San Fransisco. Even liberal SF got fed up with them and demanded the police take action.

I think your confusing intelligent protesting of the past with what you see today. There are NO Gandis, Susan B. Anthonies, Martin Luther Kings, or even Wavy Gravies in the peace movement today. When women marched for voting rights or MLK made his "I have a Dream speech" their message was clear. Now you compare that to some of the proposed signs people have suggested

ex. "Bush Sucks", "If I Only Had a Brain", "AHole was Awol"
I'm sure you'll see signs like that and more. And how many other people who are pushing other agendas are going to show up?

And all those different people you say show up. Sure in a city like Chicago with several million you'll get some diversity. But I repeat "Your Preaching to the choir!".

Well its your life. But please remember that not everyone is your enemy and your actions and the demonstrators around you reflect on everyone with your ideas.

[Catherine Vincent]

70. Egads!

I think that one is a winner....unfortunately.:-(

[ElsewheresDaughter]

68. "DISARMING IRAQ" a pic of 12 year old Ali "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"

"DISARMING IRAQ"

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

[votein04]

89. YES, WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!

I HOPE!

[DuctapeFatwa]

69. "MAY I HAVE A COTTON JUMPSUIT PLEASE"

You'll probably get the same polyester as everybody else, but it can't hurt to ask

[Bozita]

72. "A-HOLE was AWOL" --- How 'bout that?

short and sweet

[David Zephyr]

84. Lovely!

:hi:

[linazelle]

75. Kick

:kick:

[sistersofmercy]

76. Bush's real fundraising BBQ-soldiers wither,halliburton gets bigger! or

when do our soldiers get a vacation!

[Zan_of_Texas]

88. Qwagmire

Qwagmire.....now, it's spelled with a Dubya.

[kentuck]

77. STOP

That's all...it's says a lot.

[maveric]

91. Bu$h's face on the scarecrow from wiz of oz: "If I only had a Brain!"

Or Georgie with a long pinnochio nose.

[AP]

94. Let's Party Like it Was 1992.

[GoneOffShore]

98. How about -

Bush Lied! If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.
I've gotten some strange looks for this one, but a lot of thumbs up. It makes people think, even here in Philadelphia. I drive past Independence Hall holding it up along with one in the back of my car. Dirty looks 40%, thumbs up 60%.

[lpbk2713]

99. Curious George..........Doesn't Have a Clue.

........ (Picture of Chimpy)

[imax2268]

101. How about...

How's your Golf game Mr Resident...?

Where's my check...?

George Who...?

A- Arrogant
W- Worthless
O- Oppressive
L- Liar