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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:03 PM
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Will Rove upstage a Clark canidacy announcement?
IF Clark runs, and I hope he does, I think Rove will announce or do something to take the media spotlight off of Clark. It's Rove's SOP to do that, and besides, Rove is an evil SOB! I'm thinking it will probably be some sort of "al qaida" figure or "big shot" in Iraq was captured/killed.

What do fellow DU'ers think?
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:05 PM
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1. Ace-in-the-hole
is David kay and his much touted WMD expose'.

Rove is sort of holding onto it until some really damaging news hits. A Clark announcement might just qualify.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:08 PM
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3. That's a good point. I forgot about David Kay's report.
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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:24 PM
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7. What is David Kay's report?
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:06 PM
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2. Yes he will.
And, I bet he's on the phone trying to scare up some "war crime" behavior.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:12 PM
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4. Like, there's doubt? Just pray for a low body count. n/t
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:13 PM
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5. That's the Rove mudus operandi. Possibly Ashcroft's FBI will capture
the West Virginia sniper in an early morning raid hours before the Clark announcement. The sniper will probably act across state lines long before then and his identity already known by authorities.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:14 PM
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6. Fun to think that Clark's playing their game.
As Andy Card said, "You don't roll out a new product until the fall."
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:26 PM
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8. he will of course try
Rove will have many underhanded surprises for us.
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:38 PM
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9. Rove has his little nerdy asswipe operatives everywhere
If Clark decides to run and has a press conference, expect it to be pre-empted by a Rummy/Meyers (the 9/11 stand-down order Siamese twins) "unexpected" announcement from the Pentagon on the discovery of David Kay's WMDs, which will later be found to be some dusty yellow papers and a tin box:eyes:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:40 PM
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10. Yes! Look what Arnold's announcement did to coverage of Gore's speech...
<crickets> "What Gore speech?" I can hear everyone say. "Exactly," says Karl.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:42 PM
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11. Absolutely.
Clark is lucky he doesn't live in the Weimar Republic. Goebbels v1.0 (as opposed to Mr. Rove's v2.0) would have killed him, pinned the blame onhis followers, and said after his death that he was a great friend and supporter of Der Fuehrer.

Actually, now that I think about it, maybe Goebbels v2.0 isn't all that different fom v1.0.

Fly commercial, Gen Clark!
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VoteClark Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:46 PM
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12. Clark is smarter than Rove
So no. Clark will do it correctly.

Clark will know if that is about to happen from his contacts.


:kick:
J4Clark
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 03:14 PM
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13. In order to beat Rove, Clark has to do a surprise announcement
so that Rove doesn't have enough time to drown him out.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 03:31 PM
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14. I could be wrong but
I don't think Rove would consider a Clark announcement anything to be concerned about in the overall scheme of Democratic candidates at this point. He's just be another candidate throwing his hat in the ring.:shrug:
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Adjoran Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 03:48 PM
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15. Why would he bother?
Seriously, Clark has no real organization, no experience at running for office, no money, and no standing (as of yet) in the polls.

Rove and the Repubs won't pay any attention at all until Clark demonstrates some strength in at least one of the above areas.

My doctor is in a large group practice, and one of his partners is a big Repub fundraiser who went to the Bush ranch last week for a meeting. The guy came home saying the Repub money men are gearing up to run against Gephardt. They think he is going to win Iowa, can safely ignore NH because of the three "local" guys running, and will win SC to be the big frontrunner. They think his union backing will make the difference.

It's third-hand info, but this is the same doctor who told me to quit smoking, and he was right about that.
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 03:51 PM
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16. LOL
You are a very funny person.

If clark gets in he will win.
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 03:52 PM
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17. Exactley...you are correct about Clark.
He can & will be ignored until he starts making a serious dent in the polling numbers. He is not an issue for the GOP right now.

And that was some interesting intel on the GOPs take on who their competition will be. Gephardt is going to do better than expected here at DU, but Im not sure how competitive he will be in the South.

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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 04:31 PM
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18. I don't know about that
two reasons:

First: Rove does his own polling. He's got to have some kind of focus group or poll information on how dubya stacks up against clark. He should see Clark as a serious threat.

Second" GOP Intelligence (pardon the oxymoron) otherwise known as opposition research, already knows that Clark has a lot of Democratic support (witness right here on DU). They've already started "gaming" the campaign against Clark. Not to worry however: Clark is a skillful tactician...he is already "gaming" the campaign from his end and lining up the logistics.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 05:15 PM
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19. Seems to me the un-candidate is the one
that got all the media exposure this weekend and it is his quotes and bashing of Tom Delay that is generating the most buzz. Face it, if he gets in he will be a force to reckon with. Anyone bashing him because he is following his own time line instead of the status quo has not listen to anything he has said or read what he stands for. He has repeatedly said that the time for a decision is when he decides it is the right time for him. That is a leader. Summer time is not the right time to make any big announcement because most Americans are not paying attention. Early Sept. is always better in the political play book.

Maybe he will call a news conference and be the one to announce the Kay report as being bogus ahead of it's release and let people know that is why he wants to be President. Who knows? To think that Rove and Co are not paying attention to this guy after all the press he has had, especially being signaled out by Delay is just plain naive.

Continuing to bash him does not say alot about your own candidate who ever it might be. Hopefully he will be a candidate, if not remember that those of us who support him have said that we will support the candidate that is nominated, so let's here why you think your guy or girl is the one, not why you think my guy is not.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 05:18 PM
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20. Rove would love Clark to run especially if he runs as an Independent.
This will divide the Democratic vote as much as Ralph Nader did in 2000. If he runs as a Democrat he won't get the nomination.IMHO
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 05:23 PM
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21. If Clark runs as an indy he will split the Dems alot more than Nader
Based on the returns it looks like Nader was a fringe candidate.

Clark is more of a Perot style candidate.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 05:30 PM
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22. Who cares about Rove.
Many really, really fear him, as if Republicans were supersmart confident geniuses and Democrats were dumbass, vascillating retards.

If you want Clark to win, do it the hard, old-fashioned, but guaranteed way. Organize grassroots support, raise money, work the media well, etc. etc.
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