Is the Dean Campaign Spamming?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

"A few days ago, a friend of mine fowarded to me some pam apparently from the Howard Dean campaign. The sender's return address, however, was [e-mail]. In addition, this is not the Texas email we've all heard about. Being bored, I did some research, and I found some intriguing results. If you are interested, I've posted the the technical details and the the spam. Even though the images in the email are being served from Venezuela, the links in the body of the spam are actually redirects from a marketing partner called eScriptions.net to a Dean for America registration page. It appears that the campaign is outsourcing their email with some dubious marketing partners who are then using notorious spamhauses to send out the actual email. Why does a supposedly "net savvy" campaign even think for one second that this approach is acceptable?"
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/17/1624206&mode=thread

[sujan]

1. ok, here's DFA's reply

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=75018&cid=6718555

[bearfartinthewoods]

5. ok, but did DFA give their subscriber list to the Venezualian spammers?

will i have to abandon another e-mail address?

[DemBones DemBones]

2. Spamming IS being done on Dean's behalf by

a supporter named Nico Pitney. Pitney wrote an article called "The Progressive Case for Dean" (or something very similar) and it's being spammed from his e-mail addresses to mailing lists for Kucinich supporters, including ones I belong to, and presumably to other lists or individuals. I find it very offensive behavior but I don't have any reason to think that Dean himself was aware of this in advance. I hope he's been made aware now. Pitney claims to be a "student activist" from California, IIRC.

[Mairead]

3. I wonder whether 'Nicco' and 'Nico' are the same person

('Nicco' being the author of the disclaimer to which Sujan pointed)

[sujan]

4. Dont think so

Nicco Mele is a professional web designer not a 'student activist'.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

6. If they're spamming, it hasn't come here

which I find very funny. We signed up to get email from Kerry and Gephardt, and we do. But nothing from Dean, spam or otherwise, except for the thank you yesterday when we donated to his campaign. Since we've been getting the Kerry/Gephardt emails for months now,as well as the Democratic Party, it makes me wonder if the spammer is only selecting Kucinich people.

[HFishbine]

7. The Opt-in Lie

Looks like the Dean campaign has fallen for the big lie that spammers perpetuate to all of their customers: that their lists are opt-in only. All one has to do is look at the fine print on the numerous penis-enlargement, mortgage refinacning, meet singles, and assorted spam we all get which says, "You have received this e-mail because you elected to opt in... blah, blah, blah."

We all know that opt in is a lie.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

8. Dean's outsourcing his email work to Venezuela?

Why am I not surprised?

[AlinPA]

9. I have been getting unsolicited emails from Edwards and Kerry.

Couple of times/week.

[revcarol]

10. Did they buy the DNC small donor list?

I have been getting spam from Kerry only since that article appeared about him buying the DNC small donor list.

And yes I am a Kucinich supporter who did NOT sign up with Kerry, and yes, I also got "The Progressive Whatever for Dean," a misleading article to say the least!!

[gully]

11. The taudry SPAM story here...

"Executive Summary
This spam bubbled up in mid August, 2003. The Dean Campaign may have outsourced an email campaign to Emailresults.net, based on claims by Emailresults.net that the campaign would be opt-in. There was some sort of due diligence failure on the part of the Dean campaign, as a google search on "emailresults.net" shows numerous references to their propensity for spamming on the first two pages of search results.

After the Dean campaign was presented with clear cut evidence as to the nature of emailresponse.net, they investigated promptly and terminated their relationship with the company that same day..

Thanks to James Lick for his copy of the spam, and his breakdown of erinfo.net spam that he received between 1/1/2003 and 8/12/2003. Thanks to John Levine for finding the snippet from the dialpad privacy policy cited below. Thanks to Chris Lewis for finding the Eric Reinertsen connection. Thanks to Carl Hutzler for putting me in contact with the folks at the Dean Campaign."

Also the company is located in uhm....New Hampshire *gasp*

East Coast (Corporate Headquarters)
83 Washington Street, Suite 305
Dover, NH 03820

PHONE: [phone]
FAX: [phone]

http://www.erinfo.net/company_info.html

*fizzle*

[gully]

12. Failed to post my source

http://www.spamvertized.org/2004/dean-emailresults.html

:hi: