My one complaint about F911

[Poiuyt]

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't hear any mention of the PNAC. There was one point in the film where a mention of how "we need a Pearl Harbor type event" could have fit in very nicely.

[Nevernose]

1. You didn' tmiss it, 'cuz it wasn't there

I think he was trying to avoid being TOO conpiracy-theorist-ish. He was walking the line on the Afghanistan/Unocal thing as it was.

[Insider]

5. that's ironic, i guess

'cuz PNAC is THEIR written document. but the film would be tagged as ... oh well.

but i get your point

edit for typo

[mzmolly]

11. I agree.

;)

[Still_Loves_John]

2. I think that if he put in

a theory that Bush planned 9/11 would have destroyed all of this movie's credibility. The right wing would have a fielday and could easily dismiss it as a stupid conspiracy theory, which it would be.

[alittlelark]

3. I think he's auspiciously trying to avoid the Conspiracy Theorist

labels. I must say it was quite smart of him......people will leave this film, do their own lookin' around, and find the truth (I hope).

edited for grammatical malfunction

[KittyWampus]

13. Yes, Sometimes It's Better To Let People Put 2 And 2 Together

for themselves, in their own time.

[thebigidea]

17. what about the stuff about the pipeline?

The RW types are attacking him on that, saying its a conspiracy theory.

[adadem]

4. I was also disappointed

that he didn't show mama babs saying she couldn't waste her "beautiful" mind on body bags.

Still it was powerful and truthful...bet it wins oscar!

[Cha]

7. Yes! Michael Moore at the Oscars again...

At least he brittney spears in there.:P

[otohara]

6. No Mention of PNAC

Why?

[Fovea]

10. By avoiding PNAC

he sent his message tailored for the non informed viewer. Indeed, this is the best evidence that the movie is not preaching to the choir.

PNAC adds a lot of back story for the uninformed. Moore takes the uninvolved through our collective discovery of two years of stonewalling and misinformation and serves it up as a sandwich, as opposed to a five course meal.

Those who knew little or nothing, this news is a real soul wrencher as it is.

[TrustingDog]

8. too much ground to cover....

haven't seen the movie yet, but what i gather is there is quite enough to get the ball of questioning rolling and give pause to ask if this is what represents american people... what bush has done. tons o stuff for a sequel.

[Poiuyt]

9. Maybe we need F911, part 2

[TheWizardOfMudd]

12. I agree with you

The PNACers hijacked the Bush administration. They have been on record for almost a decade advocating the invasion of Iraq. Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz and Perle were in that bunch. They wrote published articles. They disagreed with Bush the first's decision to not overthrow Hussein in 1991. They sent a letter to Clinton in 1998 urging him to invade Iraq. Therefore, IT WAS NOT A CONSPIRACY. Conspiracies are secret. The PNACers were public from the beginning.

Incidentally, they are fucking insane.

[mike1963]

14. MM should have at least -mentioned- it, I agree, but that's a whole nother

movie...most Murkans aren't intellectually equipped to deal with such a monstrous concept, I fear...

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[mzmolly]

15. I think without absolute *proof* he'd have been treading on dangerous

territory. I do think he drew some lines for us to follow. I'm not a MIHOP-er myself as much as a LIHOP-er.

[funkybutt]

16. i agree!

it's one of the things that ould have tied it all together...i think moore left it to us to put a lot together