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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:57 AM
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Iraq is going to be chimp* and neocon downfall
I get up in the morning, turn on the computer and look at Yahoo news. Every day now it tells me another American or two was killed the previous day in Iraq.
I dread the day when it tells me that ten, twenty, fifty, or more have been killed and hundreds wounded in a mass uprising. I mean you don't have to have foresight to know it's coming, then what?
We're stuck in the sand and getting more entrenched every day. The blood and treasure we're expending is mounting, darth rummy lowballed it at 4 bil a month, another billion a month for Afghanistan.
The chimp* and the neocons must be shaking in their boots right now, There isn't enough manpower to even begin to occupy the country, much less bring it under control. The force there now needs relieved, they're tired, worn down, they want out, their families want them out, they were told their job was to fight a war then they would be coming home.
It's not happening, we're stuck, there isn't a force to replace those there, and there isn't any help over the hill. We've squandered the goodwill of the planet, sure, we know that gw* has a bigger one than his poppy, but it's caught a social disease in the process.
Sooner or later, there is going to be a draft instituted, all the fools who couldn't see past their penisis, before the war are seeing it now.
We've destabilized the region, fucked it up horribly, we have no idea where Saddam and family are, hell, we don't even know about Osama. We can't just pack up and bring the troops home. Though the sensible thing to do would have been not to touch it in the first place. If we do, energy supplies from the region would be disrupted so badly, we'de all be riding bicycles.
Iraq would go from anarchy to total anarchy, various factions, religious, secular, would be fighting it out, with the probability of the conflict spreading throughout the region greatly enhanced.
So, we're stuck there isn't enough men to replace those there, we can't leave, we can't control the cities and lose the oil fields.
We can't keep on suffering the death of a thusand cuts, we're screwed thanks georgie*.
The only good thing to come from this is that it will be their downfall. After this fiasco we will never again have a president named george, nor will the neocons ever hold power again.
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:14 AM
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1. It will be a panathea of neocon trash...
The foray into Africa is held up as a humanistic approach to HIV infection. While certain aspects may or may not shake out in those ways; my sense is that it is still Big Oil and the lifting of the certification hold on the diamond trade (you know, "Feed a terrorist, house a terrorist, yada, yada, yada...") that needs the most immediate attention hence the blood of young and nearly naturalized American citizens just dying to be here, and the 'otherwise' treasure of us all:

http://campaignforlaborrights.org/index/may03/5-6.htm

http://www.debeers.com

http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/www-features/2003-July/008661.html

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"He's a businessman...The product he sells is religion." —Ed Rollins, political consultant said of Pat Robertson

The African Development Company

Another one of Robertson's more notorious business deals is the recently exposed diamond mine case. In this ingenious venture, Robertson saw an opportunity in the country formerly named Zaire (now the Congo) for diamond mines. The former Zaire is a country rich in natural resources, including diamonds, but these resources were thus far being plundered by its (former) dictator, the brutal Mobuto Sese Seko. Mobuto (who recently died of cancer) was one of the world's richest men, while his people lived in grinding poverty. It was often noted that he could have cured all of his country's ills by writing a personal check. Mobuto had been trying to come to the US to try to improve relations, but the State Department refused to grant him a visa, due to his lengthy human rights violations. In all of this, the clever Pat Robertson saw an opportunity. The two became close associates, and Mobuto allowed Pat to open diamond mines in Zaire, under the name of the African Development Company, while Pat tried to persuade the State Department to allow Mobuto entry into the US. Ultimately, it was found out that Pat had been using CBN money and equipment to aid his diamond mining operation in Zaire. A good deal for Pat, seeing as he employed people in Zaire for ridiculously low wages, and managed to use CBN's infrastructure to cut costs even more."


http://www.dcregistry.com/forums/religion/messages/1745.html
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:25 AM
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2. His day is coming too
Soon, I would suspect. He's a member of the cabal he'll go when they go.
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:27 AM
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3. Agreed ~
:hi:
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:42 AM
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4. They just can't spin this one away.
Soldiers want out of there. Families want them home. These families talk to other families and pretty soon we've got a whole bunch of people who'd never vote for a Bush again, maybe even a repug. All for Big Oil.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:48 AM
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5. and they can't blame it on Clinton
sure, they will try, but it's quite a stretch
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