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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 05:03 PM Original message |
So you're a Duer against same-sex marriage. Explain your logic to me. |
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evil_orange_cat (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. The sanctity of marriage needs to be protected! |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. Then I guess I'm a religious zealot |
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hippiegranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 05:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. i agree |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 05:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I can, and I do |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 05:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Fine, as long as we get exactly the same benefits as heterosexual couples. |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Problem is, the state IS in the marriage business.... |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 05:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Yes, I can |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Then we're actually in agreement here..... |
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djg21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
112. For the sake of argument! |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 08:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
29. Why not? Marriage was a state function before religion got involved |
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LeftyChristian (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:18 AM Response to Reply #29 |
45. Huh? |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:41 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. wrong, marriage was civil first, religious later |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
94. That's a very broad statement. |
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pagerbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 09:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
31. I agree somewhat |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 09:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. At least you're not a religious zealot. You'd be a consitutional zealot. |
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Alpha Wolf (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
76. Totally agree... |
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rbnyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
82. Do you mean that athiests, agnogstics... |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 12:21 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. that's exactly what they mean |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
5. after the initial battle a couple months ago |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
6. In the spirit of the newest MEME MEMO... |
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the Kelly Gang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
8. if 2 people want to commit..it's none of my f***** business ! |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
11. Yeah, Some folks seem to be of the opinion... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
12. I am a religious (ummm Zealot?) |
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AMD_CPU (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
14. The government should get out of the marriage business completely. |
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TexasSissy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
90. But it's a group asking for the government to sanction their |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
15. How's about this? |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
55. How can those that are voted in by pluralities... |
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Q3JR4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
81. Each branch |
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ithinkmyliverhurts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
16. Theoligically, I find gay marriage completely incompatible |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 09:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
37. but were talking civil law, not theology |
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ithinkmyliverhurts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:04 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Gee, a legal issue, no kidding. |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:42 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. I just don't understand why you brought up theology when discussing |
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ithinkmyliverhurts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I suppose I was responding to the entire thread. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #16 |
56. Why do I hear the voice of Tevye in my head.... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:17 AM Response to Reply #56 |
67. Slavery was also a tradition |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:28 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Exactly.... and isn't it oh so tiring... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
17. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
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TexasMexican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Gracias... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 11:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Why Is It That You "Generally Don't Like Them"? |
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TexasMexican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 11:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Not easy to explain. |
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SheepyMcSheepster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 08:08 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. and those various reasons would be? nt. |
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kevinhnc (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:14 AM Response to Reply #24 |
64. Grrrr... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:19 AM Response to Reply #24 |
69. you generally dislike gays? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
80. Finally a tombstone on the fucker |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. yup, he's fertilizer |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. That's one of the few 1000+ tombstones I've seen |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #85 |
95. Here lies the body |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
18. My problem is |
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SheepyMcSheepster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 11:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. i really don't think there will be a problem with reproduction. |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 11:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I said it was a strange point of view |
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SheepyMcSheepster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 07:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. the 'gay agenda' thing was a joke |
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skippysmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 09:18 AM Response to Reply #25 |
39. not to mention |
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Change has come (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-04 11:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. And God knows..... |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
97. Hey, I think we have a new marketing slogan... |
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Change has come (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. I Like it ! eom |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
113. A decline in human reproduction would be a GOOD |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 08:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. " . . it might hurt the promolgation of the human race?" |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 09:06 AM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Red herring and illogical. |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 09:18 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. That percentage has been . . |
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Kinkistyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 09:19 AM Response to Reply #18 |
40. God I wish more guys would "go gay". |
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indigo32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:18 AM Response to Reply #18 |
46. I don't think it's all that eccentric |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. Dey tek er jebs! |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:04 AM Response to Reply #18 |
61. Oh why, oh why did I enter this thread? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
71. What a fabulous idea...especially for the USA |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
96. Not weird so much as... |
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abburdlen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
98. Okay I get it. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 07:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
103. Let it go Quinnox...the human race hasn't always been here and one day |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
33. Government's role in marriage |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 09:15 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Right on, Marshall! |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 09:15 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. If any two people could form a business relationship (partnership, corp.) |
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Used and Abused (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
41. I don't care either way but |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:13 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. You said "The anti-marriage stance . . |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:21 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Past societies? |
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Screaming Lord Byron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Huh? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Sort of tautological. All past societies have gone extinct. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #41 |
74. Exactly what "past" societies haven't gone extinct? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. BTW, all past societies which did not allow gay marriage have gone extinct |
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Q3JR4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
83. I seem to remember that |
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silverpatronus (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
89. oh for god's sake... |
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abburdlen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
99. Maybe kids do best |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
49. I don't care what it's called... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Here's the crazy thing about how your parents were married. They |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:07 AM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Makes sense to me... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:14 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. And they shouldn't be excluded from the burdens either. You get divorced, |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
52. Marriage is a religious institution. |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. No it is not! |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:16 AM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Marriage should be a civil institution. |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Actually most state marriage laws DON'T say that |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Actually, 39 states already DO prohibit gay and lesbian couples |
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silverpatronus (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 01:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
91. historically, marriage is a civil institution |
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greekspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
57. Bless your heart for being sensitive to your wife! |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #57 |
75. Yes, well, it's not all sensitivity and altruism on my part.... |
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greekspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Well its the thought that counts! |
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LuminousX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
60. Since the gov't isn't getting out of the marriage business |
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TexasSissy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
62. It might cost us the election. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Thanks for that selfish perspective... |
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TexasSissy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #68 |
88. That's unselfish...not selfish. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. To say that ANY civil rights issue |
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kevinhnc (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #62 |
78. As far as I know |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
84. I think all will become clear after the great unveiling |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. It's too far away |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
100. Uncomfortable |
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Brian_Expat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. LOL |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Sexual Catharsis |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
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silverpatronus (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. first of all... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. the sad thing is, that if one of her children is gay |
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traco (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. In answer to your challenge |
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silverpatronus (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:28 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. using your own definitions... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:06 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. What a crock of shit |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:34 PM Response to Reply #105 |
114. You may find this interesting. Just in case. |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 11:41 PM Response to Reply #105 |
115. Disconnect.. |
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jus_the_facts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-04 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
110. The institution of marriage as a whole does more harm than good.... |
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