Canadian DUers. Who won the debate tonight?

[Cascadian]

Just wanted to find out who you thought won tonight's leadership debate?


John

[Sticky]

1. I didn't/couldn't watch

.....but CTV says Harper won the debate and all the "common man" interviews agree. I'm :scared:

Don't these people realize a vote for Harper is basically a vote for the old Alliance Party?

I'm sick.....this sucks....Harper is george bush without the brains.

EDIT To Add /sarcasm

[arcos]

2. You mean Bush has a brain? n/t

[Sticky]

4. exactly! LOL

n/t

[Cascadian]

3. George Bush has brains????

Wow! Could have fooled me. Man, if Harper wins, then my plans to move to Canada will be scuttled.

John

[TexasProgresive]

6. Cheney keeps them in a jar of everclear on his desk. n/t

[Minstrel Boy]

5. I have never seen the corporate media in this country shill

for the right like they are this election.

Thank God for the CBC. We have it, at least, so long as this incarnation of a conservative party doesn't form a majority.

[Cascadian]

7. I get the CBC here in Seattle.

The news coverage is far less biased than the networks have down here. However, if Harper and his Canadian cons win, will he privatize the CBC?

John

[Minstrel Boy]

9. They don't speak of it openly, but I'd say

it's definitely part of the far right's hidden agenda.

[Sticky]

10. A confession

I have not been watching TV, listening to CBC Radio or reading any Canadian messageboards. (Right now my life is extremely chaotic and I don't have the luxury of time.....)

So ....a question to any of you in the know...

What in hell happened to Paul Martin and the Liberal Party? There seems to be a very high level of distrust and anger toward him.

[Minstrel Boy]

8. I was wondering, watching it, how Bush would fare

in a genuine debate like this, with three tough opponents battering him head-on for two hours. Nevermind a French-language debate the night before.

[CHIMO]

11. No One

Won the debate.
Didn't watch a debate but saw a shouting match.
CTV question on Health Care is that people "believe" that costs are out of control.
Saw three leaders ganging up on the Liberals.
Saw Harper trying to co-operate with the separatists and at other times trying to re-invigorate the west in anti-french language issues.
As usual saw Harper avoiding the issues and the fact the party does not yet have any stands on any issues. We are angry with the governing party and we have the Alliance that will have the back room boys establishing policy until a convention is held. And anything that comes out of their convention will now be suspicious, based on issuing all kinds of new memberships. (See D.O's letter below)

Look for issues that will split the next parliament to make multiple parties on the left with a minor group being able to pit group against group.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040614.worchard15/BNStory/National/

However, as I end this blog Chant Hebert and Greg Allan are giving their interpretations and they are not as negative as mine are.

[3trievers]

14. Well done !!!!!!!!!

[Cascadian]

12. kick

[Minstrel Boy]

13. The Globe and Mail had an online panel of pundits analyzing performances

Pretty good marks for Layton. From Peter Donolo:

Jack Layton has performed surprisingly solidly, so far. And he's been effectively chiding Mr. Martin for co-opting NDP values and positions on issues like the Iraq War. Stephen Harper has looked reasonable and calm. Mr. Martin has been a little rattled, mistakenly referring the the Gommery Judicial Inquiry as a "Royal Commission"", and talking about how he has "re-established" Canada's relationship with the US. He let them push him around way too much on the Sponsorship Issue.

Stephen Harper doesn't do humble or contrite very well. When asked about the WMD evidence being trumped up in advance of the Iraq War, he was pretty flinty, acknowledging that "a lot" of foreign governments made mistakes, blah, blah, blah. No hint that he may have been wrong beating the war drum.

http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040615.epundits0615/BNStory/specialDecision2004/

[Domitan]

15. Here are my one-word descriptions of the debate performance

Harper: shifty

Martin: bluster

Layton: idealistic

Duceppe: frank