Military Families Speaking Out on c-span ..right now!

[Cha]

This should be interesting! Poor things!

[CatWoman]

1. Heh -- we posted at the same time

I need to alert mods to delete mine :D

[Rose Siding]

2. zidzi!

You started a thread! Woo Hoo :party:

I'll watch

[Cha]

5. I know! first one in GD! And what a one to start!

It's just what we've been saying!

[CatWoman]

8. Think I'll head over to Freeperville

to see what they are saying about this. :evilgrin:

[WoodrowFan]

28. Intell Report

You've got a stronger stomach than me, probably from cleaning out litter boxes, reading freeperville must feel simular...


At any rate I look forward to your intell report. And if you drop a used paper towel on thier floor on the way out I won't object, I promise. :spank:

[VermontDem2004]

3. This is interesting

I remember a freeper called me a "disgrace to families with sons in Iraq" for speaking out against this War.

[Cha]

6. I know we've come a long way!

I was castigated for wearing my "No Blood for Oil" Pin back in Feb.

[VermontDem2004]

77. LoL it happened again

except it wasn't directed toward me, but more towards all Duers. I just got back from the LBN thread, and I guess someone got onto DU and said something like, 'you anti-american traitors, you are a disgrace to the families with sons and daughters serving overseas'

[Cha]

4. 600 families in the Military Families Speak Out, now!

Started out with 4 members!

Talkin' about bush's "Bring them on"

They say "Bring Them Home"!


They understand what this attack was all about! Oil is not worth their son's and daughter's life!

They support the troops not bush's agenda.

[Cha]

7. 30 to 40 incidents a day in Iraq and the news only reports

on 1 or 2!

Our troops are stuck in quagmire.

National Gaurds are lured into reserves for education and are not prepared for special combat.

No vehicles, no


bush and rumsfeld Lied and betrayed and do not support troops.

Her son said they are out there flapping. A woman from Massachusets talkin' about her son Justin!

[VermontDem2004]

10. This is why Dean, Kucinich, and Braun

are the perfect choices for President because they will not lead us into an illegal war and they have the courage to speak against, despite what the polls say, they stand up for what is right, that is the kind of man/woman leading this country.

[nostamj]

9. "betrayed by the Bush Administration"

betrayed...

these people are talking tough. BRAVO!!!

[demnan]

11. Yeah! Good they are speaking out

Their children signed up, but they didn't sign up for this unjust war they signed up to bring peace to places like Liberia, who wants us there.

[dolo amber]

12. Plenty of press there, too

That's encouraging, though you never know what sort of spin they'll put on it. :(

[VermontDem2004]

15. I don't see this being on The Factor

or Scarborough Country or Limpballz, or Hannity's Show.(Colmes is really the punching bag which is why I call it Hannity's Show)

[Oilwellian]

16. How could they possibly spin this?

I'm in tears now.

[CatWoman]

13. The father speaking now

is making me cry.

[Cha]

14. How sad! Fernando Suarez of Escondido,Ca. talking about

his son who died in Iraq. Sweetheart is speaking in Spanish with a translator!

He has a question for bush ...How many of our sons and daughters do you need to bring them home?

Not worth one barrel of oil!

He's making me cry!

Enough deceit, bush!


My son will not return but I want those others to return.

His wife is crying!

[Zech Marquis]

18. and if these families are out in front of the cameras

you just KNOW alot more know about the TRUTH too.

[Cha]

20. Stan Goff is on now! He was on cnn yesterday.

His son is Baghdad now. No security council resolution...it is illegal.

Rich man's war.

120 degree heat to protect profits of haliburtion.

Orwellian..No one knows will the next mortor will land

[theHandpuppet]

70. Wolf "Blitzen, Blinken and Nod" of CNN...

... earlier interviewed this man on CNN and it was all I could do not to throw a brick through the TV!!!! In response to this father's passionate and eloquent remarks about why the Iraq invasion was an illegal war and that the troops should be brought home, BlitzerBush acutally had the nerve to ask this man (not an exact quote here, methinks), "But aren't you glad Saddam Hussein has been removed from power?" You had to have actually witnessed this interview, because the tone Wolface used was accusatory, ie, if you don't support this damned war you must be a Saddam-lover!! What a shameless shitface!!

Did anyone else catch that interview? Wolf was totally disgusting!

[Cha]

79. I didn't ...but others on DU were commenting on it when it

happened and had the same reaction that you did! :-(

[qanda]

48. That was SO sad!

I was crying right along with his wife, who was overwhelmed with grief. It really brings home some of what these families are facing.

[Tinoire]

17. Wow! These are all the guys from Vets for Peace

These are all the guys from Veterans for Peace that I mentioned in this thread! The ones Will Pitt spoke for- HEROES !

GO GUYS! I am SOOOOO Proud of you! Keep kicking ass!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=160436

[DEM FAN]

24. Bush Has To GO NOW. People Are Getting Killed For LIES.

BUSH NEEDS TO GO NOW DAMN IT. :grr: :grr:

[VolcanoJen]

19. This better make the freaking news tonight

This is so newsworthy, it's screaming.

This is the most tragic thing I've seen in a long time. Thanks for alerting all of us to this!!!

- Jennifer

[CatWoman]

22. Yikes -- from a father whose son was just deployed

"Rumsfeld and Bush cares about troops the same way that Tyson cares about chickens"

[NJCher]

21. just posted this on the bush signs thread

Watching it now. A father whose son was killed in Iraq is speaking now. Fernando Suarez del Solar is his name; he has an interpreter. He says, "Mr. Bush, how many more of our sons do you need to bring our soldiers home? How many more American lives? ....No more deceit. My son will not return but I want other sons to return home."

This man looks so very sad. My heart goes out to him. As he finished his speech, he hugged his sobbing wife.

Next up is Stan Goff but Fernando's wife is still sobbing. Now it is making others on the stage cry.


Cher

[demnan]

23. Wow the guy speaking now mentioned Enron

they are really hard-hitting.

"Rumsfeld and Bush care about our children the way Tysons cares about chickens"

Another gentleman: "lies lies - a war based on postering on the deck of a carrier"

[Tinoire]

27. Demnan- These guys are more informed than even DUers

They absolutely amazed me!

[THUNDER HANDS]

25. ah, who cares

they're just a focus group

:eyes:

[Cha]

30. That's growing!

[Snellius]

26. Why isn't this on MSNBC or CNN?

Why do they only want to interview the teary-eyed, grieving families of those fallen soldiers when they're waving flags and praising the commander in chief?

[Tinoire]

33. You want to get really pissed?

The only Presidential candidate who they feel addresses their concerns and who took the time to meet with them is Kucinich. He was one of the guests of honor at their National Convention this year. Spoke to and with them Saturday morning. Re-arranged everything on his schedule to make it.

Sadly, Kerry flat out refused to meet with them- they told me he first sent a staffer to talk to them and then when they pressed flat out refused to see them. The others had no time. Sharpton has promised he will. Guess who 99% of them are backing? Both them and Vets for Peace.

[SoCalDem]

69. simple..... people might see it and the mainstream might report it

Rover wants this to remain where it is...safely swept under the rug..

[Cha]

29. Charley Richardson speaking now!

Not acceptable to bring some home and have the Japanese troops go in under USA command...


Thousands of e-mails...not a disgrace to this Country! Telling the truth is never a disgrace!

Go to congresspeople and speak out ...write letters to editors.

Questions..

What it change if WMD found tomorrow? No! It was presented they were an imminent threat..Iraq is a shattered Nation.

[Cha]

32. Signed up to secure and protect People of USA and this

war has nothing to do with that!

Defend the constitution and that includes his mom's right to speak out!

Her son is a brave guy and believes in her right to speak out.

Who fixes this?

Bring Troops Home!

[VermontDem2004]

31. If this doesn't change the freeper's republican

views on this war just a little, then they have no soul at all.

[Cha]

36. What is going on that the People do Not know!

Mainstream news is no reflection as to what is going in Iraq.

Well we knew that!

Tom McMahon speaking...How many Soldiers have been wounded in Iraq?

They are concealing it. The more info Americans have the less they will support the war.

How Many have been wounded? It's an indictment that I have to guess.

Stan Goff ...media has limited view. imbed reporters = propoganda coup...no dead bodies...we need to see them.

War would be over in a week if we could see the pictures of our dead Soldiers.

[tom_paine]

65. Goebbels v2.0-programmed automatons have no souls

They are edited out, along with conscience and critical thinking skills, which do not make for people who will help destroy the Consitution and Bill of Rights while professing their love for that which they wish to destroy.

[catmandu57]

34. Oh Jesus

I'm going to be watery eyed all day. This war is just so damn wrong.

[Rose Siding]

35. This woman is confirming

that the all violence and attacks aren't being reported in the US.

[Cha]

37. Two hours it took the helicopter to get to his son!

Many Soldiers died because they didn't get attention soon enough.

bush's aircraft carrier stunt ...same time opened burger king to feed troops..

Many e-mails say voted for bush and now do Not support war.

[DemLikr]

38. These folks are brave and totally ROCK.

the longer I listen to this the more impressed I am.

I hope if I were ever in there position I would have the balls to do the same.

[Kahuna]

39. Larry Syverson speaking now holding a pic of his son..

Gawdm the kid looks like his younger clone. Go Larry and Bryce!

[Cha]

40. They are going to do an event in Crawford, Texas on August 23rd!

Yea! takin' in the backyard of you know who again.

[Tinoire]

41. Really wish we could all make it to Crawford!

BRING THEM HOME NOW!

[fishnfla]

54. Powerful stuff

I could not see it, thanks for the play-by-play zidzi. Did they really say they were going to Crawford? This could be HUGE. Will the president meet with them? We need to hype this across the internet.

[Cha]

80. Yes! They are going to Crawford August 23, 2003!

And you're Welcome! :-)

[DEM FAN]

42. What Bullshit. Every Major Network Should Have Covered That Event.

No Cnn, No, Faux, No Msnbc,. I Think Cbs, Nbc, Abc Should
Have Had This On. :err:

[Cha]

45. Not our corporatist news... they will be milking this war until the

last breath...someday they're going to get caught with their pants down when they don't report something they think we shouldn't know.

[revcarol]

43. Suarez said the Army told him his son died from a bullet in the

back of the head, when he ACTUALLY died from a cluster bomb planted by OUR troops. And why are we mining Iraq?
And how many other "non-combat" deaths have actually been combat deaths?

[Bozita]

44. We're gonna get a lot of Kobe Bryant and Laci Peterson tonight...

...on the news networks. And hey, there's the decapitated Ted Williams story. Don't forget the murdered Baylor basketball player.

Little or no time will be available for coverage of this press conference.

Sad, so very sad!

[Cha]

46. Aren't ya glad we live in America ...the ultimate in Democracy?

[NewYorkerfromMass]

47. Vietnam II - but the time frame has been super compressed

someone (perhaps several) predicted this here and it seems to have come depressingly true. :-(

It's like the original Star Trek episode where they look into the time portal and world events whiz by at super speed. Christ, what a nightmare.

[rocktivity]

76. Originally posted by NewYorkerfromMass

someone (perhaps several) predicted this here and it seems to have come depressingly true. :-(

When the Pretzel-Dunce began describing the 9/11 attack has having bin Laden's fingerprints all over it, I posted here that if he didn't think through how the U.S. was going to respond, we'd end up with a war with Viet Nam's fingerprints all over it!

rocknation

[Bozita]

49. The press was STUNNED.

Wasn't there a longish pause when the Q&A period began?

If I saw what I think I saw, you could have heard a pin drop.

Was I hallucinating?

[seemslikeadream]

50. Please please

e-mail C-SPAN and tell them to re-run this. I just called and was told there was no plan to.

[Cha]

59. You're kidding? c-span reruns everything! Don't tell me they

are too chicken? I am grateful that they were even there in the first place, though!

[onecitizen]

51. Made me cry...........

and made me angrier. The Latino family killed me. All of them killed me but hearing that poor mother cry her heart out was particularly heart wrenching.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

52. The Freeper Creepers would say: "Tough shit- they volunteered"

what they won't say is that true Americans have no problem fighting for JUST CAUSES. Something this is not.

I'm afraid the deck is stacking precipitously in Kerry's favor, since he will draw votes heavily from this environment of betrayal, and frankly he is uniquely qualified to assume command of the ship of state after chimpy's global destruction.

[neuvocat]

83. No one volunteers to die for oil.

And no one ever has.

[roberthall10]

57. We Betrayed Them

These are not people for whom a Yale legacy slot and an automatic admission to the Harvard Business School were options. Many enrolled, undoubtedly, for the educational benefits.

They enrolled assuming that any deployment would be in affairs of legitimate national security, that demogoguery would not be a factor, that they would not be fighting to make the world safe for Halliburton, and that democratic procedures would determine whether they went or not. Instead, our government let them down, punked out rather than be accused of being soft on national security. They were betrayed, and this rips at the heart of our democracy.

[protect freedom impeach bush now]

53. news link - 600 Military Families Say Bring Troops Home Now

600 Military Families Say Bring Troops Home Now

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N12296827.htm

12 Aug 2003 22:00:45 GMT
US military families push to bring Iraq troops home

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

By Niala Boodhoo

WASHINGTON, Aug 12 (Reuters) - A group of about 600 U.S. military families, upset about the living conditions of soldiers in Iraq, are launching a campaign asking their relatives to urge members of Congress and President George W. Bush to bring the troops home.

"We're growing more and more disturbed about the conditions that are developing. Our concerns are both for our troops and the people in Iraq," said Nancy Lessin, a founder of Families Speak Out, formed last fall to oppose the war in Iraq.

Susan Schuman, whose son Justin is in the Massachusetts National Guard deployed to Samarra, Iraq, said he shares a small room in a former Iraqi police barracks with five other men. "They are rationed to 2 liters of water a day and it's 125 degrees (52 degrees C), they haven't had anything but MREs (Meals Ready to Eat)," she told Reuters, adding that uncertainty about when the troops would come home was "most disheartening."

Organizers hope to take advantage of Congress' summer recess to voice their concerns to lawmakers in their home states. "The idea is not to confront but say look, 'what is going on?'" said Dennis O'Neil, a member of Veterans for Peace, another group involved in the campaign. "This war was supposed to be quick."

more.................

[revcarol]

61. Slanted article just portrays them as wimps,

instead of being betrayed for oil and empire based on lies.

They probably wrote the article before the press conference.

[Tinoire]

72. UPSET ABOUT THE LIVING CONDITIONS??! WTF KIND OF CRAP IS THAT?

How about upset about not having any drinking water?

How about upset about being lied to and used to enrich the Carlyle thugs?

How about upset about having inarticulate AWOL Frat Boys telling the other side to BRING IT ON?

How about hungry and tired and heart-broken?

Heart-broken and dying in their sleep?

Coming home with that hundred-yard stare that goes nowhere and sees nothing?

Oh Lord... Last week one of the young soldiers I trained called me... said he couldn't sleep... wanted to kill himself... no could never sleep again because he was ordered to blow up a house with kids in it... and he did it... and now he can't sleep... doesn't even want to hold his own kids...

Damn you to hell Bush. Damn to hell everyone who enabled this war in any way, shape or form.

[symbolman]

55. I'm tempted to go to the Crawford

Event and show/launch the ARMY OF ONE commercial there --

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html

I should dedicate it to these families.

[Cha]

60. Do! If you possible can! What could be more important?

We could say they need you!

[Minstrel Boy]

56. Stan Goff was just on Blitzer

He stressed the illegality of the war and the fabrications used to justify it.

Naturally, the slot was dominated by Wolf, a retired general and callers who said it wouldn't be fair to the Iraqi people to bring the troops home before completing their "mission."

:grr:

[theHandpuppet]

71. Wolfbreath also asked this father...

in the CNN interview, "But aren't you glad Saddam is a gone?" as if he was a Saddam-lover if he didn't support this war! Wolf made me so damned sick I felt like throwing a brick through the TV!!

[underpants]

58. PICTURES!

Ellen Barfield, vice president of the Bring Them Home Now campaign, left, consoles Fernando Suarez del Solar of Escondido, Calif., center, whose son died in Iraq (news - web sites), poster at right, and Maria Fritz of Oakton, Va., whose son is still in Iraq, during a news conference at the National Press Club in Washington Wednesday, Aug. 13, 2003 by military families calling on President Bush (news - web sites) to end U.S. occupation in Iraq and return the troops to their home bases. (AP Photo/Dennis Cook)

[Cha]

64. Just looking at the pics makes me cry again....it's good to

see them again! Thanks!

Like Stan Goff said we need to see pictures of the wounded and dead Soldiers to see what is really happening...not bushwa hogwash version.

[VolcanoJen]

62. CNN just covered the Press Club Conference!!!! 1:20 pm

Excellent. I'm so glad CNN considered this newsworthy!

[Cha]

66. Good~ even the corporatist news channel is reporting on it.

This is just the beginning!

[Emboldened Chimp]

63. How can anyone

NOT think that * is the biggest asshole to ever be president after watching this? He needs to go NOW.

[VolcanoJen]

67. KICK!

Kicking this so the LBN Crowd can join in!

Thanks!
VolcanoJen
DU Moderator

[L.A.dweller]

68. If this doesn't make people want to go out and volunteer

for the democratic party or anti-war movement, I don't know what will.

As soon as I get done with the important things that I have to do this week I will find out where I can go and how I can help with the dem candidate that I favor. Be it passing out flyers and/or getting people to register to vote I will be glad to do it.
That thief in office has got to go.

[Cha]

73. And imagine that it is even Worse than they are telling or that

anyone Can imagine! The Greed, the Lies, the Hunger for More Power ..more Power than has ever been had on Earth...that has led to genocide, really.

[JNelson6563]

74. I am glad I missed it

Reading all your accounts of it, and then somebody posted pictures!!!!!! AHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Must....not....cry......

Holy Cannoli this is horrifying. The epitome of evil.

Julie :-(

[eablair3]

75. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF C-SPAN WIL REPLAY THIS TONIGHT?

sorry for the all caps there, but I'd really like to have seen this. Many times C-SPAN replays live events from the daytime in the evening. Does anyone know if C-Span will be replaying this one?

thanks much.

[Cha]

78. I hope so and maybe on a c-span stream in the archives!

I don't think you need to "apologize for caps"! :-)

[JNelson6563]

81. here you go, watch on-line archives

against my better judgement I am watching it now.

http://video.c-span.org:8080/ramgen/archive/iraq/iraq081303_familiesspeak.rm?start=3.0

Team Bush has got to go!!

Julie

[berry]

84. 9:30 ET on C-Span

tape it if you can--so you can show others.

I too was moved to tears by this, and also last night by the press conference representing about 9,000 doctors in favor of national health insurance (for different reasons). On so many fronts, for so many reasons we have to STOP *

[VolcanoJen]

82. Another kick!

:dem: