Good CIA, bad CIA and the root cause of the "intelligence failure"

[bobthedrummer]

it's one thing to be a top-notch expert in any profession lending talents and skills to national security-it's quite another thing to be a Nazi, organized crime member, agent of a foreign power or criminal religious cultist--the CIA had all those folks in it from it's foundation in 1947 under The National Security Act, which should be repealed imo.

The biggest "secrets" are in mind control and illegal domestic supression of political dissidents imo and life experiences.

Richard McGarrah Helms, like George H. W. Bush, was a Director of the CIA that has a family history of working with the Third Reich and other enemies of the US.

Richard McGarrah Helms maternal grandfather, Gates McGarrah, was the first President of the Bank for International Settlements/BIS, which was created by the world's central banks (inc. Fed. Resv.) in 1930.

The BIS was the realized vision of then future Nazi Minister of Economics Hjalmar Schacht.
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/waryearsp5.html

In the recent past, Laili Helms, Richard's niece, was the US PR spokesperson for the Taliban-from her New Jersy home.
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0124/ridgeway.php

Richard McGarrah Helms was the driving force behind US mind control "research", his final days at the CIA were devoted to destruction of all known records, but he missed 16,000 operational files that an investigative journalist won access to in August 2002 (plus the social networks of all US citizens adversely affected by this MK ULTRA related crap-it's payback time)
http://www.rcfp.org/news/2002/0819kellyv.html

DU MK ULTRA thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=636309

Massive reformation and prosecution of criminals hiding in national security is called for now, or we will lose democracy.

[bobthedrummer]

1. All my 54 years as a seventh generation American have been lived

with real Nazis and their US allies, organized crime, extremist religious cultists, murderers, rapists, torturers, slavers...operating freely behind the "national security" shield right here at home, shaping and moving world events for a criminal agenda, from the "end" of WWII until now.

Our parents sacrifices were betrayed, America's future was betrayed, democracy was betrayed, our US Constitution was attacked when the most vile and evil combinations of groups and individuals joined hands to battle godless communism from Washington D.C.

Real Nazi's, their families, friends and social networks were given identities as Americans and "recruited"-these Nazis found a political home in the RW of the Republican Party
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/ratlines.htm

Many of these Nazis became prominent "Americans". President Clinton prosecuted these Nazis
http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/hr071498/holtzman.html

http://www.fas.org/sgp?congress/hr071498/maloney.html
and apologized for some clandestine and criminal US human experimentation during the Cold War by opening an Office
http://tis.eh.doe.gov/ohre/index.html

When one hears rumors that the 82nd Airborne is voting en masse for John Kerry one should get involved in this historic election process.
The 82nd killed a lot of Nazis and Nazi supporters in WWII.
I salute that on this Memorial Day and impending 60th D-Day anniversary.

[Disturbed]

10. CIA is a terrorist org. on the behest of Capitalists.

"The CIA trains the dictator's security apparatus to crack down on the traditional enemies of big business, using interrogation, torture and murder. The victims are said to be "communists" but almost always they are just peasants, liberals, moderates, labor union leaders, political opponents and advocates of free speech and democracy. Widespread human rights abuses follow."

http://www.serendipity.li/cia.html

[Eloriel]

2. Great links, thanks

I'm adding this thread to my collection of links for a revised "Reality 501: A DU Course Syllabus." The original and some other links are here:

Reality 501: A DU Course Syllabus
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=6920&forum=DCForumID70&archive=yes


REALITY 501: Course Syllabus Special Addendum - The 60s
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=14030&forum=DCForumID70&archive=yes


Reality 501: Syllabus UPDATE
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=8535&forum=DCForumID70&archive=yes


The US, the Saudis, and oil (a piece of Eloriel's Big Picture)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=8558&forum=DCForumID70&archive=yes


One more time: LEO STRAUSS AND THE NEO-CONS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=7200&forum=DCForumID70&archive=yes

[bobthedrummer]

3. Whether I've agreed or disagreed with you over the years Eloriel

I've always been struck by the subjects brought up-and by your insights into realpolitik too. So I thank you for keeping DU in the vanguard of the truth seekers, no matter where that leads (into the depths of the "shadow government").

I've never said that to you directly, plus- I'm thankful that we are allies in this!
:hi:
Bob

[Stephanie]

15. Did you see Harpers?

Big article on Strauss. Haven't read it yet.

[bobthedrummer]

4. The most secretive of all CIA Directors was George H. W. Bush who's

name is on the building symbolizing US Intelligence:grr:

And let's not forget the family traditions of this American political dynasty of profiting with and enabling US enemies.

Gold fillings, Auschwitz and George Bush
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/bushies.htm

How the Bush Family Wealth is Linked to the Jewish Holocaust by Toby Rogers
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ROG309A.html

US-Nazi profiteers from National Archives
http://www.archives.gov/research_room/holocaust_era_assets/bibliographies/trade_with_third_reich.html

US-Nazi bankers
http://www.archives.gov/research_room/holocaust_era_assets/bibliographies/banking.html

More and more of our resources were shaped and molded by these fascist/militarist criminal elements battling godless communism now terrorism
Star Wars by Dr. Nick Begich
http://www.adacomp.net/~mcherney/starwars.html

Mind control is a big part of this failure. The NSA stipulated that mind control was a national security issue in this FOIA request response to human rights activist Cheryl Welsh

[bobthedrummer]

5. The unbridled corruption must come to an end

there is a lot of work to do to repair the damage brought about by these criminals hiding within the shadow government that have betrayed US.

[seemslikeadream]

6. The Nazi Connection to Dallas: General Reinhard Gehlen

General Gehlen frequently exaggerated the Soviet threat in order to exacerbate tensions between the superpowers.

At one point he succeeded in convincing General Lucius Clay, military governor of the U.S. zone of occupation in Germany, that a major Soviet war mobilization had begun in Eastern Europe. This prompted Clay to dash off a frantic, top-secret telegram to Washington in March 1948, warning that war "may come with dramatic suddenness."

Gehlen's disinformation strategy was based on a simple premise: the colder the Cold War got, the more political space for Hitler's heirs to maneuver. The Org could only flourish under Cold War conditions; as an institution it was therefore committed to perpetuating the Soviet-American conflict.

"The agency loved Gehlen because he fed us what we wanted to hear. We used his stuff constantly, and we fed it to everyone else – the Pentagon, the White House, the newspapers. They loved it, too. But it was hyped-up Russian bogeyman junk, and it did a lot of damage to this country," a retired CIA official told author Christopher Simpson, who also serves on the IGW review panel and was author of Blowback: America's Recruitment of Nazis and Its Effects on the Cold War.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/051601a.html



The Nazi Connection to the John F. Kennedy Assassination

Evidence of link between Nazis still in operation after World War II to the still unsolved murder of John F. Kennedy
by Mae Brussell
(from the short-lived Larry Flynt publication The Rebel, Nov. 22, 1983)

1940-1945: The Nazi Connection to Dallas:
General Reinhard Gehlen

The sparrow-faced man in the battle uniform of an American general clambered down the steps of the U.S. Army transport plane upon its arrival at Washington National Airport. It was August 24, 1945, two weeks after the surrender of Japan, three months after the German capitulation. The general was hustled into a van with no windows and whisked to Fort Hunt outside the capital. There he was attended by white-jacketed orderlies and, the next morning, fitted with a dark-grey business suit from one of Washington's swankiest men's stores.
General Reinhard Gehlen was ready to cut a deal.
Reinhard Gehlen had been, up until the recent capitulation, Adolph Hitler's chief intelligence officer against the Soviet Union. His American captors had decked him out in one of their uniforms to deceive the Russians, who were hunting him as a war criminal. Now U.S. intelligence was going to deploy Gehlen and his network of spies against the Russians. The Cold War was on.
This is a story of how key nazis, even as the Wehrmacht was still on the offensive, anticipated military disaster and laid plans to transplant nazism, intact but disguised, in havens in the West. It is the story of how honorable men, and some not so honorable, were so blinded by the Red menace that they fell into lockstep with nazi designs. It is the story of the Odd Couple Plus One: the mob, the CIA and fanatical exiles, each with its own reason for gunning for Kennedy. It is a story that climaxes in Dallas on November 22, 1963 when John Kennedy was struck down. And it is a story with an aftermath -- America's slide to the brink of fascism. As William L. Shirer, author of The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, put it in speaking of the excesses of the Nixon administration, "We could become the first country to go fascist through free elections."


Photo by Wide World

General Reinhard Gehlen, shown (center) in a rare photograph taken during WWII.


Even Robert Ludlum would have been hard put to invent a more improbable espionage yam. In the eyes of the CIA Reinhard Gehlen was an "asset" of staggering potential. He was a professional spymaster, violently anti-Communist and, best of all, the controller of a vast underground network still in place inside Russian frontiers. His checkered past mattered not. "He's on our side and that's all that matters," chuckled Allen Dulles, a U.S. intelligence officer during the war who later headed the CIA. "Besides, one need not ask a Gehlen to one's club."
Gehlen negotiated with his American "hosts" with the cool hand of a Las Vegas gambler. When the German collapse was at hand, he had looked to the future. He lugged all his files into the Bavarian Alps and cached them at a site called, appropriately, Misery Meadows. Then he buried his Wehrmacht uniform with the embroidered eagle and swastika, donned an Alpine coat, and turned himself in to the nearest U.S. Army detachment. When the advancing Russians searched his headquarters at Zossen, all they found were empty file cabinets and litter.
The deal Gehlen struck with the Americans was not, for obvious reasons, released to the Washington Post. As Heinz Hohne and Hermann Zolling phrased it in The General Was A Spy, the German general took his entire apparatus, "unpurged and without interruption, into the service of the American superpower." There is no evidence that he ever renounced the Third Reich's postwar plan, advanced by his own family's publishing house, to colonize vast regions of Eastern Russia, create a huge famine for 40,000,000, and treat the remaining 50,000,000 "racially inferior Slavs as slaves."
Allen Dulles may not have invited such a man to his club, but he did the next best thing: he funneled an aggregate of $200 million in CIA funds to the Gehlen Organization as it became known. Directing operations from a fortress-like nerve center in Bavaria, Gehlen reactivated his network inside Russia. Soon, news of the first Russian jet fighter, the MiG-15, was channeled back to the West. In 1949 the general scored an espionage coup when he turned up Soviet plans for the remilitarization of East Germany.
When Dulles spoke, Gehlen listened. The CIA chief was convinced, along with his brother, Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, that the "captive nations" of the Soviet bloc would rise up if given sufficient encouragement. At his behest, Gehlen recruited and trained an exile mercenary force ready to rush in without involving American units. Also at Dulles' direction, Gehlen tapped the ranks of his wartime Russian collaborators for a cadre of spies to be parachuted into the Soviet Union. Some of these spies were schooled at the CIA's clandestine base at Atsugi, Japan, where, in 1957, a young Marine named Lee Harvey Oswald was posted to the U-2 spy plane operation there.
(snip)

more
http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/Nazi%20Connection...

thanks nolabels

[seemslikeadream]

7. This is a token of a great day we had in Dallas

Silhouetted corpse of African American Allen Brooks hanging from Elk's Arch, surrounded by spectators. March 3, 1910. Dallas, Texas.

Tinted lithographed postcard. 3 1/2 x 5 1/2 in.

Printed inscription on border, "LYNCHING SCENE, DALLAS, MARCH 3, 1910". Penciled inscription on border, "All OK and would like to get a post from you. Bill, This was some Raw Bunch."



This postcard, addressed to Dr. J.W.F. Williams, LaFayette, Christian County, Kentucky documents the sentiments of one lunchtime spectator.

"Well John - This is a token of a great day we had in Dallas, March 3, a negro was hung for an assault on a three year old girl. I saw this on my noon hour. I was very much in the bunch. You can see the negro hanging on a telephone pole. "

http://www.musarium.com/withoutsanctuary/main.html



Let America be America again.
Let it be the dream it used to be.
Let it be the pioneer on the plain
Seeking a home where he himself is free.

(America never was America to me.)

Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed--
Let it be that great strong land of love
Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme
That any man be crushed by one above.

(It never was America to me.)

O, let my land be a land where Liberty
Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath,
But opportunity is real, and life is free,
Equality is in the air we breathe.

(There's never been equality for me,
Nor freedom in this "homeland of the free.")

Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark?
And who are you that draws your veil across the stars?

I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart,
I am the Negro bearing slavery's scars.
I am the red man driven from the land,
I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek--
And finding only the same old stupid plan
Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak.

I am the young man, full of strength and hope,
Tangled in that ancient endless chain
Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land!
Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need!
Of work the men! Of take the pay!
Of owning everything for one's own greed!

I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil.
I am the worker sold to the machine.
I am the Negro, servant to you all.
I am the people, humble, hungry, mean--
Hungry yet today despite the dream.
Beaten yet today--O, Pioneers!
I am the man who never got ahead,
The poorest worker bartered through the years.

Yet I'm the one who dreamt our basic dream
In the Old World while still a serf of kings,
Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true,
That even yet its mighty daring sings
In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned
That's made America the land it has become.
O, I'm the man who sailed those early seas
In search of what I meant to be my home--
For I'm the one who left dark Ireland's shore,
And Poland's plain, and England's grassy lea,
And torn from Black Africa's strand I came
To build a "homeland of the free."

The free?

Who said the free? Not me?
Surely not me? The millions on relief today?
The millions shot down when we strike?
The millions who have nothing for our pay?
For all the dreams we've dreamed
And all the songs we've sung
And all the hopes we've held
And all the flags we've hung,
The millions who have nothing for our pay--
Except the dream that's almost dead today.

O, let America be America again--
The land that never has been yet--
And yet must be--the land where every man is free.
The land that's mine--the poor man's, Indian's, Negro's, ME--
Who made America,
Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain,
Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain,
Must bring back our mighty dream again.

Sure, call me any ugly name you choose--
The steel of freedom does not stain.
From those who live like leeches on the people's lives,
We must take back our land again,
America!

O, yes,
I say it plain,
America never was America to me,
And yet I swear this oath--
America will be!

Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death,
The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies,
We, the people, must redeem
The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers.
The mountains and the endless plain--
All, all the stretch of these great green states--
And make America again!

Let America be America Again...by Langston Hughes

[bobthedrummer]

8. G.H.W. Bush was in Dallas 11-22-63, he was CIA then-but what CIA?

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.

[Octafish]

9. "Mr. George Bush of the CIA" corresponded with FBI's Hoover.

Poppy Doc Bush of course denies being CIA in 1963, yet's here's an FBI memo, from 27 Nov., 1963 stating otherwise:



Then there's this one from 22 Nov. 1963, the day of the assassination. There's no question about who is who. It shows George Herbert Walker Bush ratting out some young Republican suspect name of "James Parrott."



The BFEE: In Business Since November 22, 1963.

[seemslikeadream]

11. What's really creepy is that

Barbara and little georgie were there, downtown Dallas.

[Octafish]

12. Front-row at the Big Show.

That is indeed, um, odd.

Notice too, how quick the supposed other "Mr. George Bush of the CIA" was to associate "pro-Castro" Cubans with the assassination?

[seemslikeadream]

13. Now wasn't that whole Cuban "thing"

all about Prescott's brothers' sugar fields in Cuba being taken from him by Castro?

John F. Kennedy, a Democrat, didn’t send our military to help in the Bay of Pigs operation. Note: George Hubert Walker (who Bush I and Bush II are named after. George Hubert Walker’s daughter married Prescott Bush) had a brother who owned a sugar operation in Cuba. This sugar operation along with other American interests in Cuba was nationalized by Castro when he came to power.

Why were we so mad at Cuba?

Was it Communism or was it the take over of American companies especially the sugar operation of the Walker brother? If that is what our foreign policy is all about then is this how we justify doing what was best for the national security interests of the people of the United States?

Indeed it is to protect the interests of wealthy industrialists in the U.S.
http://www.quietpoly.com/juryfury/debates/IsBushseekingReelection/discussion-worldopinionofus.html

[Octafish]

14. Sure appears that way. Cuba had been very good to the Bushes.

But, to the military-industrial complex for which Bush whores, Cuba was a gold mine for war. And so today, they've expanded to become a Fortune 1 corporation - - the BFEE.

The BFEE thanks Cuba.

During the Bay of Pigs, Dulles said "send in the Navy."

JFK said "No, Cuba isn't worth starting World War III over." And he fired Dulles.

During the Cuban Missile Crisis, the new CIA fellah, the Joint Chiefs, most of the Cabinet, the Congressional leadership and just about anyone who was anyone said "nuke Moscow."

Kennedy said, "No, Cuba isn't worth starting World War III over." He didn't fire anybody, but said he was worried the generals and admirals were getting ready to overthrow him.

Gen. Limnitzer proposes Operation NORTHWOODS, which is designed to kill Americans and blame Cuba.

The President said, "No, Cuba isn't worth starting World War III over." Kennedy fired Lemnitzer shortly thereafter.

President Kennedy says "Vietnam isn't going to be our Dienbienphu" and he orders the withdrawal of ALL Americans by 1965. Then, JFK is murdered in Dallas.

So, who gets blamed straight away? The designated patsy is a Marxist sympathizer lone gunman who happens to be "pro-Cuba."

New president Johnson reverses policy and states the US will do whatever is necessary to support the government of South Vietnam.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

27. Funny thing about that "Marxist sympathizer lone gunman"....

...he:

* Was a USMC radar operator who helped track our most secret CIA project at that time, the U-2 on flights over the USSR and China...he also stood guard duty when the planes were inactive.

* Was allowed to move to the USSR and live in Minsk for a couple of years, and then return to the US with a Russian wife, no questions asked.

* Was an employee of the CIA and had a CIA "201 personnel file".

* Had the name of George DeMohrenschildt in his address book, a White Russian immigrant/oil geologist/CIA contract agent that had the name of George "Poppy" Bush in HIS adress book.

* Gave out pro-Castro Cuban flyers in New Orleans, flyers that had been printed by the CIA printing office.

* Spoke fluent Russian "like a native".

[Media_Lies_Daily]

26. He was part of the rightwing, Cuban Task Force faction of the CIA....

...the same group that migrated to Southeast Asia when that region got hot.

Poppy Bush knows where ALL of the bodies are buried.

[seemslikeadream]

29. SEN. GEORGE ASKS UW FOR PROBE ON VANG PAO

State Sen. Gary George is calling on UW-Madison Chancellor John Wiley to order an investigation into allegations by a UW-Madison professor that the commander of the CIA's secret army in the Vietnam War - now a leader of refugee Hmong in the United States - engaged in drug trafficking in Laos.

The allegations, 30 years old, resurfaced this month, enraging the refugee community.

"We will seek the truth and follow that path wherever it leads," George said Friday at a news conference at the State Capitol packed with Hmong veterans and supporters of Gen. Vang Pao.

Professor Alfred McCoy wrote about his findings on the role of Vang Pao and the CIA in drug trafficking in southeast Asia in a 1972 book, "The Politics of Heroin."

McCoy said the U.S. government assisted Vang Pao in bringing opium, an important cash crop for the Hmong, to heroin factories to help Vang Pao seal his leadership role and ensure a supply of fighters who waged a secret war against the North Vietnamese in Laos.

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n809/a09.html


McCoy said the U.S. government assisted Vang Pao in bringing opium


Posted on Wed, Apr. 28, 2004


ST. PAUL: Crime spree on Hmong investigated

BY LENORA CHU and TODD NELSON

Pioneer Press


Authorities are trying to determine whether a connection exists between anonymous death threats leveled Monday against seven Hmong community leaders and recent crimes committed against prominent Hmong.

St. Paul Police spokesman Paul Schnell revealed Wednesday that the death threats came in an anonymous call received by a St. Paul Hmong veterans group. Local and federal law enforcement agencies are investigating the alleged hit list.

Authorities also confirmed Wednesday that an object hurled through a window sparked the arson fire that destroyed the home of Cha Vang, son of influential leader Gen. Vang Pao. Cha Vang narrowly escaped the early Sunday fire with his wife and three daughters.

A flammable substance was also found in the home, according to Maplewood Police Chief Dave Thomalla, who declined to identify the object and substance.

Two other crimes are being investigated for possible connections. On April 20, someone fired five shots into the Maplewood home of Xang Vang, Gen. Vang Pao's translator. The following day, officials discovered someone had thrown a brick into a window and started a fire at the St. Paul offices of the Lao Family Community of Minnesota.

more
http://www.realcities.com/mld/twincities/8543732.htm

lots of unrest in the hmong community these days

[seemslikeadream]

31. Portrait: Ly Xiong Pao

General Vang Pao (left), while still a young lieutenant, standing next to Air America pilot Fred Sass in 1961. The CIA contracted with Air America to provide support for the Hmong troops.

Born in 1925, Ly Xiong Pao was one of many Central Intelligence Agency-trained Hmong who fought against communist forces and rescued downed American pilots. Ly, who grew up in a small city in Laos and attended school through third grade, speaks Hmong, Laotian, and French. He was a government administrator and soldier in Laos before his CIA training. Early on, in 1960, Ly and a group of soldiers fought a battle in Xieng Kouang Province.



Ly: My group consists of civilians and soldiers - 195 people. We only have 27 weapons. We went there during the nighttime, and we got there at 4 o'clock in the morning. We were trying to take over the airport, and trying to take over the munitions there, and trying to take over the work place and factory.

During that time the Laotian soldiers were the security there. But then the leader, military leader, was not there. When we took over, we told the soldier there "we are here to give you freedom and give you economic wealth, not to kill you."
A few months later, American airplanes dropped the first of many weapon shipments for the Royal Lao Army and Hmong soldiers. The war ended in 1975. As communist forces took control, Ly helped others find their way out of Laos. Four years later, Ly left Laos forever and fled to a refugee camp. He stayed there two years and then moved to Europe and later, South America.
Ly: The reason I went to France and French Guiana and my kids to the United States was that, by law, polygamy is practiced and I have three wives, and I have 32 children - 11 sons and 21 daughters. When I registered to come to the United States, they wouldn't accept me because I practice polygamy.

And then we lived in Cacao, in French Guyana. And then French law said one person can only marry to one person. And then I divorced two of my wives and then keep one. I decided to divorce the ones that have older children that can take care of them. And keep the one who has younger children who needs my support.
Ly Xiong Pao has lived in Saint Paul now for 10 years. Photographs and posters of Hmong leaders adorn the walls inside his home. Ly, now an old man, is a Hmong clan leader and shaman. A traditional shaman's shrine stands against one wall. Draped across the ceiling is a xa neng, two wooden dowels with four pieces of wire tied from end to end.
Ly: These xa neng - or wire - are more like a connection to the spirit to the heaven. And when the shaman call for help from heaven, it will send through these wire. These neng are more like the military force or the military soldiers that fought with the evil spirit. It was sent by the Heaven God to push the evils away.



When the war ended in 1975, thousands of Hmong people were air-lifted from Laos. They were taken to refugee camps in Thailand, and later resettled in other countries, including the United States.

more
http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/199903/08_nymanl_home/portraits/pao.shtml

[gandalf]

16. hi bobthedrummer,

I like these posts with background material, they are always very interesting.

The MK Ultra thread certainly merits further publicity.

[Karenina]

17. Kick!

:kick:

[bobthedrummer]

18. George Tenent has resigned kick

:dem:

[seemslikeadream]

22. George Tenent has resigned - It Is a Good Day to Die

The general rode for sixteen days
The horses were thirsty and tired
On the trail of a renegade chief
One he'd come to admire
The soldiers hid behind the hills
That surrounded the village
And he rode down to warn the chief
They'd come to conquer and pillage

Lay down your arms
Lay down your spear
The chief's eyes were sad
But showed no sign of fear

(chorus)
It is a good day to die
Oh my children dry your eyes
It is a good day to die

He spoke of the days before the white man came
With his guns and whisky
He told of a time a long time ago
Before what you call history
The general couldn't believe his words
Nor the look on his face
But he knew these people would rather die
Then have to live in this disgrace

What law have I broken
What wrong have I done
That makes you want to bury me
Upon this trail of blood

(chorus)

We cared for the land and the land cared for us
And that's the way it's always been
Never asked for more never asked too much
And now you tell me this is the end

I laid down my weapon
Laid down my bow
Now you want to drive me out
With no place left to go

(chorus)

And he turned to his people and said dry your eyes
We've been blessed and we are thankful
Raise your voices to the sky
It is a good day to die

Robbie Robertson

[bobthedrummer]

19. No one is above the law, yet there are horrific criminals operating

within the national security community and many Americans have been victimized in many ways because of the premise of special sanctions when it comes to "national security", which has failed US because of corruption.

I sincerely hope that when John Kerry is elected he will begin to prosecute the human monsters in the "bowels" of national security that have had carte blanche to operate as terrorists until now.

That would be a good thing in the "war on terrorism" launched by the administration of George W. Bush aka The War President based upon "selective intelligence".

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.

[blm]

20. I'm expecting a seismic shift come January.

I think the intel community is expecting it, too. I see LOTS of resignations in the near future. Most of them BFEE loyalists deserting the ship.

[seemslikeadream]

21. Criminals - Lets start with Negroponte I'll try to keep it short

By Steven Weisman
The New York Times

WASHINGTON -- President Bush's nominee for ambassador to Iraq on Tuesday defended the limits that would be placed on Iraqi self-rule, particularly those on control over security forces, asserting that after June 30 Iraqis will have "a lot more sovereignty than they have right now."

Negroponte said that any decisions on whether to attack rebel strongholds, as the United States is threatening now in Fallujah and Najaf, would require "great political sensitivity" even though American s will nominally be in charge of such decisions.

http://www.sltrib.com/2004/Apr/04282004/nation_w/161439.asp


Dems Ignore Negroponte's Death Squad Past, Look to Confirm Iraq Appointment

As Negroponte, responded to Hagel, he was interrupted by an activist, Andres Conteris of Non-violence International.

Andres Conteris, is program director for Latin America and the Caribbean for the human rights group Non-violence International. He disrupted yesterday's Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on John Negroponte's appointment as US ambassador to Iraq.

As ambassador to Honduras, Negroponte played a key role in coordinating US covert aid to the Contra death squads in Nicaragua and shoring up a CIA-backed death squad in Honduras. During his term as ambassador there, diplomats alleged that the embassy's annual human rights reports made Honduras sound more like Norway than Argentina. In a 1995 series, the Baltimore Sun detailed the activities of a secret CIA-trained Honduran army unit, Battalion 3-16, that used "shock and suffocation devices in interrogations. Prisoners often were kept naked and, when no longer useful, killed and buried in unmarked graves." In 1994, Honduras's National Commission for the Protection of Human Rights reported that it was officially admitted that 179 civilians were still missing.

A former official who served under Negroponte says he was ordered to remove all mention of torture and executions from the draft of his 1982 report on the human rights situation in Honduras. During Negroponte's tenure, US military aid to Honduras skyrocketed from $3.9 million to over $77 million. Much of this went to ensure the Honduran army's loyalty in the battle against popular movements throughout Central America.

http://www.pacifica.org/programs/dn/040428.html

Bush's Terrorist: John Negroponte Sent to Iraq

Negroponte's "embassy" in Baghdad will, according to press reports, constitute the largest US "embassy staff" in the world with some 3000 employees, including up to 1,000 Americans.

Yet according to a four-part series in the Baltimore Sun in 1995, in 1982 alone the Honduran press ran 318 stories of murders and kidnappings by the Honduran military.

Opponents of Negroponte are demanding that all Senators read the full report before voting on his nomination.http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ROF111A.html
In a cruel irony, the Bush administration has appointed a bona fide "terrorist" to wage its "war on terrorism" in Iraq.

It should come as no surprise that "on the day he was appointed to Iraq, Honduras decided to bring its troops in Iraq home." (Financial Times, April 21, 2004)

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=2&contentid=1189


Face-off: Bush's Foreign Policy Warriors

On August 27, 1997, CIA Inspector General Frederick P. Hitz released a 211-page classified report entitled "Selected Issues Relating to CIA Activities in Honduras in the 1980's." This report was partly declassified on Oct. 22, 1998, in response to demands by the Honduran human rights ombudsman. Opponents of Negroponte are demanding that all Senators read the full report before voting on his nomination.

Reich, unlike Negroponte, is primarily a lobbyist and anti-Castro activist rather than a diplomat. He is director of the Washington-based Center for a Free Cuba and works for some of America's favorite industries: liquor (Bacardi), tobacco (British-American Tobacco), and weapons (Lockheed Martin). He also serves as vice-chairman of the Worldwide Responsible Apparel Program, or WRAP, an apparel industry-backed group characterized by union activists as an artifice for clothing importers to avoid serious scrutiny of their factories in developing countries.

In the 1980s, he headed a propaganda department in the State Department called the Office of Public Diplomacy. This unit, staffed with CIA and Pentagon psychological warfare specialists, reported to Oliver North. The function of the operation was to win support for administration policy in Central America. They wrote op-eds under the name of Nicaraguan rebel leaders and attacked those who differed with Reagan's policies. The Congressional investigation of the Iran-contra scandal identified numerous illegalities which led to the closure of the Office of Public Diplomacy.

Reich followed up these activities by serving as ambassador to Venezuela from 1986-89, at the height of the Iran-contra scandal. The Venezuelan government tried unsuccessfully to block his nomination.

While working for Bacardi, he successfully lobbied to slip Section 211 into the 1998 Omnibus Appropriations Bill, thus stripping Cuba of trademark protection. Ironically, he will be overseeing the Helms-Burton Act, which he helped to draft, which the administration has just decided not to carry into effect.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ROF111A.html


NEGROPONTE - Sleeping Ambassador or Death Squad Diplomat?

The widespread use of American aerial surveillance to direct the Contra murderers to villages where only women and children were present to be killed, the routine use of torture, the encouragement of drug-smuggling into the U.S. to provide funding for the U.S.-backed forces all were revealed only after Negroponte had left his post as U.S. Ambassador to the Honduras. And who could forget the Honduran Anti-communist Liberation Army's ever popular practice of dropping victims from helicopters while they were in flight?

Make no mistake about it -- both Iraqi rebels and Al Qaeda terrorists see Negroponte's appointment as the first stage in implementing a policy of covert violence against their right to sovereignty and will effectively use it to recruit and incite radicals to commit more acts of violence against us. It's no coincidence that our Office of Homeland Security issued a heightened security alert just as Bush announced his plans for Negroponte.

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/04/con04178.html

US Martyrs Pose Questions for Negroponte
October 28, 2003
By TONI SOLO

US nuns murdered in El Salvador 4

In 1981, a couple of decades before Rachel Corrie was murdered, the bodies of four women were found in a shallow grave in a rural district not far from San Salvador, El Salvador's capital. They had been raped and shot dead by members of the Salvadoran army on the orders of senior officers. In the context of the time, the atrocity would hardly have merited reporting. But the women were United States citizens. Two were religious sisters of the New York based Maryknoll order, Ita Ford and Maureen Clarke. One was an Ursuline Sister, Dorothy Kazel, the fourth a lay missioner, Jean Donovan. By virtue of their nationality, the story did make the news, just--the back page of the New York Times, to that paper's eternal shame.

Those four women had helped defend Salvadorans from the terror unleashed against their own people by the Salvadoran government with support from the United States administrations of Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. They gave their lives working alongside vulnerable people and communities in El Salvador. The murders followed the assassination in 1980 of Salvadoran Archbishop Oscar Romero. The women's deaths were manipulated by the US government and its ever-pliant news media. The full facts took years to emerge. US ambassador to the UN, Jean Kirkpatrick, falsely accused the women of having supported the Salvadoran armed opposition, the FMLN. In fact, the four women were passionate advocates of non-violence, accompanying the rural villagers they served while caught up in a violent civil war.

Ambassador Kirkpatrick's statements on the case of the four women were to be expected from an unrepentant supporter of the bloodthirsty Argentinian military dictatorship. Her successor at the UN was Vernon Walters, former deputy director of the CIA, co-organiser of the continent wide terrorist blueprint Plan Condor and promoter of Ronald Reagan's terrorist war against Nicaragua. In 1986 Vernon Walters threw in the face of the UN his government's rejection of the International Court of Justice verdict convicting the US of terrorism against Nicaragua.

Kirkpatrick's and Walters' apologetics for mass murder helped John Negroponte, then US ambassador to Honduras, cover up his support for the systematic forced disappearances used to destroy Honduran civilian opposition to the presence of Contra bases in their country. Thomas Pickering, US ambassador to El Salvador at the time, also gave misleading information on local army and paramilitary murders, probably an essential qualification for his subsequent posting in 1989 as US ambassador to the UN, taking over from Vernon Walters.

Jean Kirkpatrick, Vernon Walters, Thomas Pickering, John Negroponte and other US government representatives sent clear signals that the local military in El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala were to be allowed a free hand by the United States government to murder tens of thousands of civilians and anyone who spoke out against the slaughter. Perhaps the defining climax to the sickening murder campaign came in 1989 when the Salvadoran army killed six Jesuit academics and two of their domestic staff at the University of Central America in San Salvador. These crimes were made possible because the United States government consistently tried to conceal its institutional role in funding, training and supporting the military and paramilitary perpetrators. The Iran-Contra scandal was the culmination of that sustained program of regional deceit.


http://www.counterpunch.org/solo10282003.html

[seemslikeadream]

23. 14 Million New Secrets Last Year:

Here's One of Them

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 90

Update - May 3, 2004


The U.S. government classified more than 14 million new national security secrets last year, up from 11 million in the previous year and 8 million the year before, according to the new annual report to President Bush from the oversight office for the national security secrecy system. Dated 31 March 2004 and made publicly available last week, the report provides the Information Security Oversight Office's best estimate of the rising tide of secrecy, and also warns that "Allowing information that will not cause damage to national security to remain in the classification system, or to enter the system in the first instance, places all classified information at needless increased risk."

The National Security Archive today posted on the Web one of the 14 million new secrets, a Biographical Sketch produced in 1975 by the Defense Intelligence Agency on the Chilean then-dictator, General Augusto Pinochet. The DIA blacked out large sections of the Sketch on ostensible national security grounds, including General Pinochet's liquor choices - "scotch and pisco sours" - when DIA released the document under the Freedom of Information Act last year.

Also posted today is the Pinochet Sketch as released in full, with no deletions, by President Clinton's 1999 declassification of U.S. documents related to human rights abuses in Chile. The document appears uncensored on pages 181-183 in the Archive book, The Pinochet File: A Declassified Dossier on Atrocity and Accountability, by Peter Kornbluh, which was published this past September by The New Press, New York, and was selected by the Los Angeles Times as a "Best Nonfiction Book of 2003."

"Pinochet's pisco sours are certainly not the only dubious secret among the 14 million new ones," commented Archive director Thomas Blanton. "The real question is whether the secrecy veil really makes us safer, or does it hide our country's vulnerabilities and policy problems when what we need to do is fix them?"

The Pinochet Sketch is also the subject of today's "In the Loop" column by Al Kamen of The Washington Post, under the headline "Millions of Secrets."



http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB90/index2.htm

[galaca1]

24. There were supposedly alot of Nazis

in the Republican party in the 1980's and George Bush got them purged.

[bobthedrummer]

25. Do you have any links to that? Or anecdotal stuff?

Ethnic Heritage volk??? Operation PAPERCLIP volk??? NASA volk??? DoE volk??? CIA volk??? Sandia volk??? DIA volk???

You're new here, we've been connecting the Nazi dots for years.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=199853

[Alerter_]

28. thanks, bobthedrummer, an informative post as always

Kudos to you for posting vital information even when it makes everyone uncomfortable.

You're right, so much evil and crime has been perpertrated through the National Security Act that we should repeal it immediatley.

[bobthedrummer]

30. DDO resignation kick

What a day...
:dem: