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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:15 AM
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ENRON and the Taliban had an oil deal - and covered up 9/11 threat?
A snip from a must-read op ed piece from The Guardian:

We Brits are so wacky

AL Kennedy
Wednesday August 13, 2003


"And in the Caspian, it turns out that an Enron-Taliban oil deal cover-up kept al-Qaida's plans for September 11 secret, too."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1017367,00.html

There is a thread on this rich, caustic op ed piece (a must read!) in Editorials.

But I have a question about this one sentence.

WHAT?????????????? An Enron-Taliban oil deal? Is this common knowledge among us conspiracy researchers? Cause I missed this small detail........
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:19 AM
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1. It;'s no conspiracy, Tban wouldn't agree to Enron's numbers and got bombed

Just like Saddam in 91. That's just US foreign policy, has been for a while.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:21 AM
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2. yep....here's the du link (from google)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/forum_archive_html/DCForumID35/12106.html

This is purportedly a Department of Energy Document
"Natural Gas - The United States has supported trans-Caspian routes for Central Asian oil and gas as an alternative to pipelines passing though Iran. The U.S. Trade and Development Agency funded a $750,000 feasibility study conducted by Enron for a natural gas pipeline from Turkmenistan to Azerbaijan, and another feasibility study was also completed by Unocal. On May 21, 1999 Turkey and Turkmenistan signed a 30-year agreement to ship 700 bcf/year of Turkmen gas to Turkey, with the rest exported to Europe. Georgia has proposed that trans-Caspian pipeline could also be linked to the Russian natural gas pipeline system."

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/casproute.html

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SummerGrace Donating Member (349 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:27 AM
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3. Enron, Unocal, Taliban & Texas
There's an article about this (originally at Counterpunch):

http://www.electgore04.com/breport/breport21.htm
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:29 AM
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4. The Bush Admin had the Taliban in 'the states' before 9/11...
Offered them $34mil for the rights to develop the area for a pipeline, "Refuse and we'll carpet bomb your country..."

The Taliban refused ~

ENRON, Halliburton et al should be made to come up front and admit their collusion in public.

http://search2.fossil.energy.gov/query.html?col=sitewide&ht=0&qp=&qt=caspian+sea+pipeline&qs=&qc=&pw=100%2525&ws=0&la=en&qm=0&st=1&nh=10&lk=1&rf=0&rq=0&si=1
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 12:33 AM
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5. Ruppert....had it all laid out ....in mucho detail (7/02)

"Soon after the invasion began in October, the pipeline project was discussed in Islamabad between Pakistani Petroleum Minister Usman Aminuddin and American Ambassador Wendy Chamberlain. Subsequently, during a visit to Ashgabat, Turkmenistan on Jan. 31, Deputy Secretary of State Elizabeth Jones told Turkmen President Saparmurat Niyazov that Washington would support such pipeline projects so long as they were commercially viable. (See source 7)

In April Niyazov called for the United Nations to support a plan to build a gas pipeline linking Turkmenistan to Pakistan, reported EurasiaNet. The project was being touted for bringing stability to Afghanistan. Support from the UN would boost the status of the project and clear the way for guarantees from international institutions like the UN Development Program. (See source 8) Also in April as reported by Agence France-Presse, World Bank chief James Wolfensohn said he had held talks about financing the Trans-Afghanistan gas pipeline. Wolfensohn, during a visit to the Afghanistan capital, Kabul, stated that a number of companies had already expressed interest in the project. (See source 9)

So far, no corporations have been named as firmly signing on to the project. Several sources have stated that Unocal will likely come forward again to join in the project, according to the DAWN Group of Newspapers. (See source 10) Most notably, Afghan Minister for Mines and Industries Mohammad Alim Reza has stated that Unocal was still in the lead attempting to win the $2 billion trans-Afghanistan pipeline. (See source 11) According to NewsBase, Unocal followed this announcement with a statement that it has no intention of reviving the Central Asia Gas Pipeline (CentGas) project. (See source 12) However, Unocal has made no statement contradicting reports that it has a project to build the Central Asian oil pipeline, linking Turkmenistan both to RussiaÕs existing Siberian oil pipelines and to the Pakistani coast. This oil pipeline will run parallel to the proposed gas pipeline route through Afghanistan, reported the Asia Times. (See source 13) It is possible that UnocalÕs denial of interest in the gas pipeline could just be for public consumption. Prior to stepping down from the CentGas project, Unocal was targeted by human rights groups for its dealings with the Taliban.

Energy experts have indicated that companies owned or formerly managed by Bush senior and Vice President Dick Cheney are showing a keen interest in Caspian Sea reserves, the DAWN Group reported. (See source 14) And the U.S. is expecting investment from U.S.-based energy conglomerates through Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC) to resuscitate the Afghan pipeline project. (See source 15) It has been noted that despite assurances from Afghan and Pakistani leaders, continued volatility in the region is deterring energy corporations from offering to help build the pipeline. It is suggested that it may take several years of political stability before the project could be seriously revived. However, the Asian Development Bank (ADB) is also keenly interested in the project. ADB loans will likely be used to cover part of the cost of building the gas transport system, with funds from donor countries for the reconstruction of Afghanistan covering the rest, according to the BBC and NewsBase. (See sources 16 and 17) It will be interesting to see what role Halliburton, formerly chaired by Cheney, plays in the pipeline construction."

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/071102_pipelineistan.html

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 01:02 AM
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6. Memory problems, but wasn't Unocal competing with Argentia for the
Taliban contract...right after this...Argentina crashed. Big time.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 02:22 AM
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7. Thanks for the education y'all........
Now, I was cognizant that the US (via corp energy companies) really wanted that pipeline from Afgh to Pakistan and that this motivated stuff. But I didn't know the who's who of the whole thing.

but the way the brit phrases it......he makes it sound like the WH subverted the info and security for 9/11 BECAUSE of the Enron/Taliban non-deal. Which is no doubt part of the story...... 9/11 got Bush a lot more than a pipeline.....
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 09:30 AM
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8. Sure you bet...
Bush didn't perform any service but for a dangerously lame one on behalf of America by acting like a shit talking little tear of Texas toilet paper, Bush Family Oilgarchy brand of 'american aristocrat', and Halliburton-ENRON-Harkin-Big-Oil-Bechtel/Nixon-Bush-Cheney Admin gangster.

There's that scene in: The Godfather. After all the in-fighting and caustic negotiations with rival gangs it is Vito Corleone (America's beloved movie gangster) that we see strolling up the homey streets of Little Italy shaking hands, waving like a politician, scruffing the heads of street urchins, and generously handing money to the kindly old green grocer for bags of fruit he would have otherwise received for free after shooting someone in head in a previous life. Yet he was shot up Big Time!! And right there in his 'living room', if you will.

It is folly for America; but this Bush Admin in particular, to refuse what we all know to be universal laws of cause & effect ~
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 09:48 AM
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9. Enron-Taliban deal
This was about a pipeline correct? I've heard rumors about this, but never found any substantiated info. Thanks for the link!
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