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bushgottago Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 08:47 PM
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Movie - Day after Tomorrow - Sucks
The special effects were good but other than that - the movies sucked. The science is REALLY bad. If anything thinks this movie is going to affect politics are counting on Democrats being really stupid ....

hmmmmmm ......

Oh well - the science is really bad. I'm waiting for Spiderman. The science is bad there too - but it's supposed to be.

I don't see any political value in using a fictional movie based on bad science to make a real point about global warming.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 08:49 PM
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1. I thought the movie was good, but the science sucked.
Just because the plot is unrealistic doesn't mean it can't still be entertaining.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 08:49 PM
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2. Wrong... Counting on Republicans being really stupid.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 08:51 PM
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3. Many scientists are saying just the opposite --
that the science is right on. They're NOT talking about the speed up of the effects (into what, a day or several?), which everyone freely admits is the science fiction part.

The issue of the ice caps and glaciers melting and pouring too much fresh water into the North Atlantic, which disrupts the Gulf Stream (which helps warm much of the Northern hemisphere) and causes it to shift, causing another ice age is a very prominent theory about what could happen.

:shrug:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 08:55 PM
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6. I watched the weekly Sci channel news today and they
said the same thing, that the science was right on, only it would take longer than one day. But don't movies and fiction speed up events anyway?
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bushgottago Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:00 PM
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8. No - the science is wrong
What you are repeating is the movie plot. The science is about as real as Bush going to Mars!
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:00 PM
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9. Analogy of the 'tipping of the canoe' best describes threshold of rapid
Edited on Sun May-30-04 09:58 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
change that could happen within 10 years according to that scary Pentagon-commissioned review of potential global outcomes.

I just looked at the NASA photos of the diminished Arctic ice sheet. Wow. 10% gone since 1979. You can really see it.

(Ice Cap Melt 1979-2003)
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3525448&thesection=news&thesubsection=general
(Ice Cap Melt Down Warning)

I heard the NPR review of the movie and it was totally corporate friendly. They recorded one of the cast gasping in astonishment at the on-screen horrors: "That's...unbelievable!"

And they played that expostulation over and over after each cited plot device. They also claimed that the events depicted on the screen couldn't happen for "hundreds of years." As if that were a consolation and completely wrong anyway.

National Petroleum Radio protected Industry from the environment instead of the other way around. What a surprise.
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bushgottago Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 08:51 PM
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4. I do believe in global warming ...
Just wanted to clarify that.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:12 PM
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11. I think the deeper message is that why should it make a difference,
if the disaster happens now or in forty years?

We should thank God we can still fix it.

I remember the last scene from "On the Beach", a movie about the effects of nuclear war on the last survivors.

It was a man carrying a sign that said: "There is still time, brother"
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 08:54 PM
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5. Haven't seen it but
I figure it's a classic Emmerich film: First 10-15 minutes builds an interesting premise, then it's thrown away for an hour of special effects.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 08:59 PM
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7. I saw it this afternoon and it certainly isn't....
on my "top Ten" list but I found it very entertaining and while the
science isn't always factual, the idea was made clear.

The Rethugs have been hitting us (Democrats) over the head for years
about how Global warning is a bunch of crap so I'm tending to forgive
any film that sticks their (repugs) lies up their Ass! :)
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:08 PM
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10. Here's a simple guide to the global warming debate.
The environmentalists have no monetary agenda other than to correct a problem.

Every anti-global warming expert I have seen so far has been funded by a conservative think tank or the oil industry.

I'll believe the ones with no monetary agenda.
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rfkrocks Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:18 PM
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13. Right on!
All the scientist lined up on the global side are not funded by the Cato institute (not now Kato-can't resist). Global warming is real and that fact is apparent to most scientists.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:16 PM
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12. Agree
Edited on Sun May-30-04 09:17 PM by quinnox
The only good thing about the movie is the special effects (maybe 30 minutes total), but when it goes to a plot it drags and gets more ridiculous and extra sappy as the movie goes on (the father walks to N.Y. to save his son through the worst blizzard in history that freezes everyone else instantly).

Big disappointment, the previews made it look good - course they showcase the special effects only.
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:21 PM
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14. yeah
it was god awful. The writing was so bad it made "Plan 9 From Outer Space" seem like "Lawrence of Arabia."

I'm gonna go see it again with my friend the geology professor and my other friend the playwright. We're gonna take notes to observe the massive plot holes.
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