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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:50 AM
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This guy says he's a Democrat. WND collaborator.
His name is Bob Just.

http://www.bobjust.com/

His website has not ONE nice thing to say about Democrats, but plenty of praise for Ronnie RayGun, and the Chimp.

Here's his :puke: article where he says "his party has left him" :wtf:

http://www.wnd.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38615

He quotes Charles Krauthammer, of all people. Even if he's in agreement with the guy, nobody in their right mind would pat Krauthammer's back over it.

Then he goes on to say this...
"Make no mistake, anti-Semitism is alive and well as a political force - and so is appeasement. The two will combine, and my Democratic Party will
soon betray Israel. It may not be an overt betrayal. It may come in a thousand cuts rather than with a single blow. But it will come. ...
Now here's the sobering reality: Defeating "angry leftists" at the polls does not solve our problem any more than disarming a crazy person makes
him a safe roommate. If I am right that the Democrats (under current leadership) are no longer an American party in any traditional sense, then this
has massive implications for our two-party system - which depends on mutual respect and common goals. It's as if Israel were forced to accept
radical Palestinians from Gaza as voting members of the Jewish state. Needless to say, shared power combined with radically opposing agendas
would spell disaster.

Democracy is too vulnerable a system to withstand an entrenched and determined hostility, serving no higher purpose than itself. Whether or not
you call this treachery hardly matters. The end result is the same - conflict, not compromise. "


Would any Democrat be calling for the criminalization, and elimination of a party that he bolongs to?

I don't think so.:eyes:

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Egalitarian Zetetic Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:52 AM
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1. Reagan use to be a democrat whenever you hear people talk like this...
saying the party left them, it is usually because of civil rights, and the democrats desire to be balanced in israel/palestine. The apostasy brung us the neo-conservative
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 12:13 PM
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6. Reagan left the party right after Truman intergrated the Military....
as did Strom Thurmond. Gee, Saint Ronnie, like David Duke must be a racist then!

:puke:
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:52 AM
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2. Once upon a time, Stromm Thurmond was a Democrat too.
This guy may complain that "the party left him", but it left Stromm too. And for the better, in both cases.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:59 AM
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3. I wonder if he is part of the Wards Just family of wealth and newspapers
Born and raised in New York City -Executive Vice President of Talk Radio Network, Editor-at-Large for Whistleblowers magazine, and a columnist for WorldNetDaily - seen on Fox News “Hannity & Colmes.” and gets an award/notice from Reagan/Bush for NWN’s Teach Freedom Project - a current "former leftist" David Horowitz project.

The Just family that I know are a very wealthy publishing (newspapers) that last I knew was headed by Ward Just. I did not know of a NYC branch - but then I once washed Ward Justs car as a kid for a buck. - We really did not travel in the same circles!
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 12:00 PM
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4. Most of the Southern Governors
were Democrats when Brown v Board of Education went into effect.
This is the same kind of labeling and accusations right wing conservatives used in the past during the HUAC trials, ( House on Un American Activities Committee )

Yeah, I'd say the party left him and ZELL MILLER too.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 12:00 PM
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5. this guy..... Bat rastard.... i mean Rat bastard
If you criminalize one party then don't we cease to be a democracy
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 01:18 PM
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8. If anyone wonders why the discourse has gotten so bad lately...
Edited on Wed May-26-04 01:20 PM by Touchdown
Witness what this Republican, and his fantasies about what the Democratic party used to be, and how we've supposedly all turned socialist. Yet he has the never to wonder why we're so angry at them...

"...the Democrats have been in a state of change for a while now, most noteably in the last 40 years or so. Back then, Democrats supported tax cuts, a strong military, and no-nonsense confrontation with evil. Can you even image today's Democrats supporting any of those things?

My guess is, Bob Just is an old-style Democrat, in the mold of John Kennedy, Zell Miller, and Joe Lieberman before Owlgore corrupted him. Such people are still too liberal for the country's good. But they look downright conservative compared to the outright socialists and con artists occupying the party's major positions today. When one-third of the Democrats in the House are active members of the Democratic Socialists of America, any claims that they have no influence, go beyond unlikely to absurd.

Many such people lament the headlong careening to the left done by the Democrats in the last generation or so. They fail to realize that it was their own "we need just a little bit of liberalism" tendencies that opened the door for that headlong flight. I can't feel any real sympathy for Just's bemoaning the depths to which todays' "Democrats" have fallen. Hey, Bob, it happened on YOUR watch! And there were plenty of people around, who warned you of why it should be prevented.

The Democrat party today has allowed itself to become the tool of every group with a grievance, real or imagined, against anyone who believes in personal responsibility and freedom. And some of those recent "victims" include some real doozies - everyone from Huey Long to Al Sharpton to Hillary Clinton to Jesse Jackson have been climbing on the social-coercion bandwagon. They may have different reasons and tactics, but they all have a common goal: to use government force to impose massive restrictions on anyone who still follows the classic "American dream", and to take wealth from those they think shouldn't have it, and give it to those they favor.

Thankfully these people have been voted out of most majorities, and are barely holding on to what power they still have through outright demagoguery, spin, and invention of imaginary "enemies" they foist on people. There is still a danger they might drag the country down with them, but that danger is receding with every election... and every newspaper and TV story revealing their tactics and agenda.

My condolences to Bob Just and the other old-style "Democrats". they should have followed the lead of other former Democrats who recognized that the party was on an irreversible course toward socialist corruption, and gotten out (as did people like Ronald Reagan). When you heroically stay aboard a sinking ship, you don't accomplish anything noteworthy. You just wind up getting very wet."


From a thread that he started about this very subject...
http://www.americanforum.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1995&highlight=

Look cloosely how he parroting the wing-nut line and calling us "The Democrat" Party. I just wanted to show, that since some admonish "both sides" for the lack of civility in politicas these days, that WE are not the ones slinging the mud first. This person truly believes this bullshit, and yet doesn't make the connection as to WHY we are so angry with the recent course of our nation. The tone of this fantastical screed and demonization fo anybody associated with The DemocratIC Party is proof positive of EXACTLY where our anger is focused. His words, his hate, his lack of original thought.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 01:38 PM
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12. It's just plain lying: say that the opposite of what's real has happened,
and then demand we "counteract" the situation they lied about. If the New Dems have dragged the (D)s rightwards, the wurlitzers clamor that it's moving to the left and demand that it be moved right for "balance." LBJ, JFK, and FDR are spinning in their graves at these claims and the Trojan horses' cowering under their aegis.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 12:16 PM
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7. Ann Coulter does all the time and her friend "democrat" Tammy Bruce
runs behind her like an echo repeating everything Ann says. I don't know what to do with Zell Miller-like Democrats. It seems we should have some ideological criteria to insist on before they can register as Democrats because I think we are being infiltrated by these zealots in an effort to undermine us as a political power. From what I understand in happened in New Zealand too.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 01:32 PM
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9. He's laying the groundwork for martial law and the shipping of Dems to
Gitmo.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 01:35 PM
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10. another possibility,
aside from the worthwhile "Southern 'Democrat'" and "neo-con" explanations, is that he's one of those "concerned" "Democrats," like the DLC, who say that they care about us, so we shouldn't be "too" outspoken or working for votes or too distant from the neocons.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 01:37 PM
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11. Proof that any numbskull can start a blog n/t
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