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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:37 AM
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Dr. Helen Caldicott on c-span
Kind of late.
I thought someone else would post alert.
She is brilliant.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:42 AM
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1. She is brilliant
I got her book last year before the war, it was a real eye opener.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:57 AM
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2. I'm listening
n/t
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rex 555 Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 10:55 AM
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3. I think she is..
a fearmonger. She never can prove her claims,NEVER. No reliable studies. Tell me I am wrong here. And not from dubious sources.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:01 AM
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4. Which claims has she not demonstrated?
No one has to prove anything until you respond with specifics..I believe the onus is on you
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:15 AM
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5. I read her book and it was filled with actual references
I don't have her book her because I got it from the library but I will pick it up again and make sure of what I speak.

You said that she can NEVER prove her claims, but you don't even list what she is claiming. It's difficult to argue facts when you don't bring any to the discussion. So if you can tell us what you are talking about then perhaps we can continue.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 12:07 PM
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6. Atomic Audit: The Costs and Consequences of U.S. Nuclear Weapons
http://www.brook.edu/FP/PROJECTS/NUCWCOST/WEAPONS.HTM

The ONLY estimate made of the cost: a 1998 report....
cost estimate: $ 5.5 TRILLION DOLLARS...and for that, we POISONED OURSELVES !!!!!



Aerial view of Technical Area 1 at Sandia National Laboratories, Albuquerque, New Mexico




Troops participating in exercises at "Camp Desert Rock" (the Nevada Test Site) observe the formation of a mushroom cloud following the detonation of the Dog test on November 1, 1951. This test involved a 21 kiloton device dropped from a B-50 bomber. The device exploded at a height of 1,417 feet (432 meters).


The cumulative cost of U.S. nuclear weapons is nearly $5.5 trillion (in constant 1996 dollars), according to an unprecedented new study, Atomic Audit: The Costs and Consequences of U.S. Nuclear Weapons Since 1940, published by the Brookings Institution Press. When the average estimated future-year costs for dismantling of nuclear weapons and the management and disposal of nuclear waste are included, the total rises to more than $5.8 trillion. That amount of money, represented as a stack of $1 bills, would stretch more than 459,000 miles, to the Moon and nearly back again.
Based on four years of extensive research, including access to previously classified government documents and data, Atomic Audit reveals that government officials have never fully understood either the annual or the cumulative costs associated with building and maintaining the nuclear stockpile and have never attempted to track the total costs over time. In fact, surprisingly few government officials sought to find the answer. This lack of oversight, when combined with pervasive nuclear secrecy, meant that U.S. officials could not weigh the perceived benefits of deterrence against its actual costs.

"In order to make informed decisions about how best to spend our tax dollars, the public and policymakers require accurate and timely information on how and why public funds are being expended," says Stephen I. Schwartz, the book's editor and Director of the U.S. Nuclear Weapons Cost Study Project. "In the realm of nuclear policy, budgetary data have too often been fragmentary or unavailable, rendering such matters fiscally and politically unaccountable. With the release of Atomic Audit, an honest and fully informed debate can finally begin."


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