Which would you prefer to have as a CONSISTENT Democratic position?

[lostnfound]

Before you flame me, I know many or most of you are anti-war AND pro-choice. I know that abortion rights are VERY important to many of you.

And I know that many or most of you will consider this flame-bait, or a false dichotomy, or an unfair question.

But in my defense, peace is VERY important to me, and I've never understood WHY the Democratic party wasn't consistently anti-war. (Well, NOW I know why..) It's the issue that matters most to me, yet I'm out-of-luck at finding a mainstream party that 'sticks by its guns' (so to speak) on the issue.

It seems that our party is consistent on only one issue, and I'm curious whether or not people would be willing to compromise on that issue in favor of a different issue.

So humor me..which is more important to you?

[slackmaster]

1. My knee-jerk reaction was to say "false dichotomy"

I said pro-choice because SOMETIMES war is the right thing to do.

[dedhed]

4. I agree... though Iraq is most definitely NOT such an instance! n/t

:bounce:

[Warpy]

8. Defensive war can be justified.

Enslaving women and forcing them to illegal back alley butchers can not.

[Misunderestimator]

2. Oh Please.... it's like asking to choose between your children. n/t

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

3. This is a complete no-brainer

Pro-Choice is a stance that is non-conditional. One should always have the right to do what one will with his or her own body.

Anti-war is very conditional. There ARE justifiable wars. Iraq just doesn't happen to be one of them.

[onehandle]

6. Yep. nt

[Commendatori]

7. Yep, what sirjwtheblack said (n/t)

[rucky]

18. Funny...it's a no-brainer for me the other way

killing versus not killing

I AM pro-choice, but I see that as an issue I'd compromise on before war.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

20. Before ANY war?

So you'd want to be pro-choice at the cost of letting another Holocaust happen?

[patrice]

5. There are so many factors influencing any given woman's

ABILITY to TRULY choose in COMPLETE freedom (sorry about the caps, but I'm suggesting that we think about the definitions of those words) that I'm afraid we will always be chasing our tails on Choice. Maybe I just don't like the way that the whole question has been framed.

I, for example, am Pro Life and Pro Choice.

Serious discussion of War is relatively new to common discourse; we have more of a chance to shape the dialogue.

It's such a huge issue, affecting many, for a long, long time, seems we have a better chance in that arena.

[lostnfound]

9. Thanks to all for keeping it civilized. nt

[Senior citizen]

10. Ecology 101

An ecologically viable species is one that can control its population growth in accordance with available resources, and never overpopulates.

An ecologically NON-VIABLE species is one that overpopulates, dies-off, overpopulates, dies off, overpopulates, dies off, in biological cycles, until it dies off altogether. Die-offs can include such things as epidemic diseases from overcrowded conditions, wars over shrinking resources, and mass poisoning from an excess of toxic wastes.

We are a non-viable species. Our huge genocides and world wars recur with biological regularity, and can be charted to coincide with our overpopulation cycles. To be pro-choice IS to be anti-war. And vice versa, of course.

[patrice]

12. So are you saying that to be Pro Choice is to be Pro Life too?

I've been wondering how to get this thought onto a sign for our street gatherings. Has to be short and effective . . . . . ?

[rex 555]

11. Well here is some humor.

If you think anyone can guarantee Peace you are a fool. If you think a politician can guarantee peace,you are a god damn fool.
Never,ever trust any politician.
One more thing,people are not ideal. Ideology is garbage.

[patrice]

Ideology is a starting point for a changing process called growth.

It can be something to navigate by, but it must adapt or become dysfunctional.

It is never an end in itself, such ideologies are death.

[MoonRiver]

13. I voted pro-choice because there are some instances that require

US to go to war, ala WWII.

[swinney]

14. Middle Class care for the Middle class

Secuirties==job--finances-health-family-education-personal

[demnan]

15. Pro-Choice

War can be justified.

[sangh0]

16. Pro-choice

Being anti-choice means being willing to deny Americans their constitutional rights.

[kimchi]

17. Both, of course.

But I chose "antiwar" only because I believe women would be able to form an underground network of abortion providers and information on herbal abortifacients (?). It would be a problem we could solve individually if we had to. I hope like hell it never comes to that.

With war there is little an individual can do to affect the outcome. Therefore a platform and powerful consensus is needed to achieve peace

Both are equally important to me; but my answer comes from being realistic. At least, I think it does!;)

[beyurslf]

19. Pro choice.

I think there could be times when war is necessary (think wwII). being anti choice is unacceptable.

[bullimiami]

21. cmon that is a crap question

would you rather have Saddam or Bush jam a glowstick up your ass?