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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:06 AM
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The DLC's National White Man's Conversation
Edited on Mon May-24-04 07:37 AM by Q
The DLC's National White Man's Conversation
Let the rich rump of the party go where they belong

“The Democratic Party is at risk of being taken over from the far left." - DLC chairman Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)

Black Commentator
Issue Number 51
July 31, 2003

The right wing of the Democratic Party is once again threatening to secede. Our fervent wish is that nobody tries to stop them.

Historically speaking, Charleston, South Carolina would have been a better locale for the Democratic Leadership Council’s secessionist-minded “National Conversation,” this week. Instead, the party’s corporate extortionists chose Philadelphia to make a stand for the American White Man, whose every idiocy must be accommodated lest the party fall into the hands of…you know who: them!

White men are terrified of them – which explains why the poor fellows get all confused and vote against their own interests every time it is imagined that they – “special interests,” Blacks, unions, and the dangerous people who call for health care, jobs, peace and justice – are about to intrude on the “national conversation.” 

White men are insecure, especially the young ones. “"If Democrats can't close the security gap, then they can't be competitive in the next election," said Mark Penn, the snake oil pollster for the world’s most boringly repellant white man, Senator Joseph Lieberman, the DLC’s standard bearer in the Democratic primaries.

According to Penn’s poll numbers, white men feel more secure with George Bush in charge. This is quite curious, since Penn also finds that, overall, “Fewer than half of those surveyed (48 percent) think deserves to be reelected and 53 percent said the economy is heading in the wrong direction.” Nevertheless, white men are increasingly Republican, indicating that their fears and insecurities get the better of their brains, every time.

Fearful white men and confused white women, says the DLC, must be retained at all costs within the ranks of the Democratic Party. Just in case these “swing voters” are not fearful enough, DLC chairman Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) warned: “The Democratic Party is at risk of being taken over from the far left.'' Since this is clearly an outcome unacceptable to the DLC and its corporate funders, it must be assumed that the DLC is preparing to bolt from the Party if rich white men don’t get their way.

http://www.blackcommentator.com/51/51_dlc.html
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:15 AM
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1. Stay the course!
Is Kerry a DLC member?
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LondonAmerican Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:16 AM
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2. Darn those white men!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:19 AM
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3. Ranked voting, folks. Let people vote their conscience in comfort.
Edited on Mon May-24-04 07:54 AM by GreenPartyVoter
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:23 AM
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4. Every white male Democrat I've talked to recently...
Has screamed bloody murder that our elected Dems aren't standing up to those Bush* bastards! No one has mentioned any need to move to the right (DLC). In fact, they want to storm the White House with torches and pitchforks.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:31 AM
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5. Divisive garbage
Edited on Mon May-24-04 07:31 AM by Gman
Why are you posting this crap here? Looks like the more appropriate place to post this drivel is over at FR. There it can get bumped on someone's "Black Conservative" ping list.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:34 AM
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6. I'm posting this here because:
Edited on Mon May-24-04 07:41 AM by Q
- I'm a member of DU and the Democratic party. Do I need any other reason?

- Sorry to step on your hobnail boot.

- Also...it pisses me off that the DLC is trying to label other Democrats as 'far left' when they don't agree with the direction of the party. They're accusing liberal and progressive Dems of trying to take over the party...when it's THEY who call themselves 'new' Democrats and have abandoned traditional Democratic principles and values for corporate whoredom.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:06 AM
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14. You say the DLC is trying to label other Dems as 'far left'
Edited on Mon May-24-04 08:12 AM by Gman
and apparently take offense at that when the article invokes the Democrats defense of slavery in the 1860's? That's what pisses me off. Now what color is that kettle, Mr.Pot?

I'm not a conservative Democrat but I know a lot of moderate and conservative Democrats that do a helluva lot more for the party than a helluva lot less conservative members.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:01 AM
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11. divisive garbage indeed and it is all coming from the DLC
Those angry white guys have to nuetralized. They are nothing more than racist sexist jerks.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:38 AM
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7. Zell Miller comes to mind when reading that article...
the knee jerk right wingers of the Dem party...

As a woman I feel that the DLC branch of the party is ready to chuck over any gains minorities or women have made in order to somehow "lure" republicans to the party...and I always ask myself ..Why?
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:51 AM
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8. A very good question...
...Why is the DLC going after the RWing Republican vote instead of shoring up the votes of the traditional base?

- Although this article is from last year...it's relevant in that we see the DLC as the leadinng proponent in the Dem party in support of the Iraq invasion and occupation. Like this administration...they seem to think that Iraq is an essential part of the 'war on terror' and that there is still something to be 'won' using military force.

- Read this entire article. I believe it shows how Blacks and Progressives feel about the DLC and their undue influence on a party that is steering AWAY from their grass roots.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:04 AM
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12. I think that DLC dems are those who
want to win everyone's vote...and that is just not possible.
They somehow feel the need to appease even if it means tossing out choice, affirmative action, etc..

"Jackson points out that Bill Clinton’s “conservative and southern Democratic supporters” were “the first to dump the president and jump overboard” during the Monica Lewinsky-related impeachment attempt, while Blacks and progressives remained loyal. The right wing of the Party is the most unreliable faction, as well as the least effective among its claimed base: “Democrats haven’t won in the white South since the civil rights movement,” Rep. Jackson reminds us."

Personally I think that the reason we don't see enough Democrats winning office in the south is because the Dems that run are often nothing more than republicans dressed up with a Dem registration card.

A friend of mine lives in NC, she is originally from PA, and she was shocked at how conservative the Dem politicians were in the South...as she said to me "What they really need are FDR type Dems to run for office so that the voters have a real choice"....
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:59 AM
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10. look around you
How many times have you seen feminists refered to as extremists even here at DU? During Green/Dem flameouts the men who are green party or Nader supporters have expressed outrage that women had the nerve not to support Nader in his electoral rebelion. They were furious at womens organizations who decided that to allow bush in office would be very detrimental to women's issues.

How many times have you seen some moron post "Two words, Geraldine Ferraro" when someone has suggested we put a woman on the ticket?

Sexism is alive and well on the left too, don't kid yourself. I think a time must come when women simply refuse to vote for any presidential ticket which does not have a woman on it. I think that time is 2008. Enough already, women have been elected to the top spot in most other civilized cultures in the world.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:06 AM
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13. I agree with you..
I hope I didn't come across as being indifferent..

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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:56 AM
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9. You don't lead people following them
The DLC and the appeal to the center/right in order to "win" votes is destroying the Democratic Party from within. The Democratic Party champions ideas that are associated with liberal or progressive ideas. When they tailor their message to appeal to centerist voters they create an impression of a party that will do anything for votes. They have destroyed the reputation of Democrats and given the right the perfect weapon to beat us into the ground. They have turned our leaders into two faced politicians and everyone can see it.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:13 AM
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15. GOPers and DLCers call it 'partisan politics'...
...when Democrats attempt to stand up for the people. So the right wing of the party compromises on issue after issue...hoping to appeal to the so-called swing voter...as the RWingers smirk and joke about 'bipartisan date rape'.

- This article does a great job in describing how the DLC is using RWing fear/smear tactics to turn people against liberals and progressives. Indeed...the DLC smears against the 'left' of the party helps reinforce the ugly 'liberal media' propaganda of the Right and assists the GOP in keeping them out of the public debate.
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:19 AM
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16. The dlc should be disbanded
these idiots are nothing more than stealth "liberal repuKKKes" who fled their own party, after the fascist far right neo-cons and fundies took over the gop...
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