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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 10:31 PM
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The Nicholas Berg execution
http://www.brushtail.com.au/nick_berg_hypothesis.html
The hypothesis

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By the time the CIA psyops boys, dressed as terrorists, cut off Berg’s head he was already long dead. As noted by various qualified observers there was no spray of blood. I further doubt whether even the hardest of the CIA hard boys would come at hacking off someone’s head while they were alive.

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They pick up Berg as he leaves his hotel and kill him (perhaps accidentally). Then they set about constructing the beheading video. It is also possible that Berg met his death at the hands of the resistance, but that his intact body was quickly recovered by US forces

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>> warning pictures of head cut-off <<

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article6173.htm


look phony to you ? I'm not impressed, better special effects in
horror movies ...

his neck should be shredded, if they used a small knife ...
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 10:40 PM
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1. Someday, somehow, the truth will come out. The silence of the media
about the dubious video is an indication to me that they have been told to not touch it.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 10:48 PM
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3. yep
The silence of the media, yes horrify people for a fews
days then let the video go down the black hole, then
keep harping the brutality of it ...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 10:40 PM
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2. according to the cia
they got fed up with the prison deal because they realized they were getting "shepards" to question-up to 95% of the prisoners were useless for info...if any one killed berg it was the rummies special unit thugs
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:01 PM
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4. Good reasoning re: the orange jumpsuit:
"They had no alternative but to do the deed with Berg dressed in the orange jumpsuit because, to dramatise the horror of the supposed event, they had to have footage that unequivocally showed him to be alive before his throat was cut. In the only such material available to them, Berg was dressed in the jumpsuit.

"I believe that footage showing Berg in the white plastic chair, unrestrained and calmly giving his name and family details, was shot as routine investigative documentation by CIA and/or FBI interrogators while Berg was imprisoned -- either at a US run facility or perhaps by the Iraqis, depending on who’s story you believe -- after he was picked up by Iraqi police in Mosul.

"The footage looks so routine because it was routine. Berg was arrested, his clothes were taken away, he was given the jumpsuit and then questioned. Quite probably he was asked a series of questions during the three 'interviews' we know took place, and his responses were videotaped in much the same way as police interrogations are audio and/or videotaped in most countries."

I tend to disagree with him on the reason for Berg's death. Given what we've learned about the Moussaoui link and other alarming connections, I think Berg's killers had a reason to kill him beyond psyops value. That is, he wasn't a random victim.

Good piece, thanks for posting. (I like his note beside a video still: "Copyright note: Inquiries in relation to the use of these images should probably be directed to the US Government.")
:evilgrin:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:07 PM
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5. then it had to be planned because
he sat in a chair talking naming his father mother and siblings. and when berg sat on the floor and beheaders behind reading, he was alive and moving. admittedly no facial movement or eye movement which was odd, but legs shifting, and tensing of shoulders and letting them go, i would say because of the postion he was sitting in

so

if he was alive and it set up like an al queda thing, then they had to stop camera, kill him, and then pretend to kill him
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:16 PM
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6. Thanks for these links! The head and everyone in the shot
would be covered with blood if the beheading had occurred to a living person. The person was clearly dead before being beheaded.

Since the makers of the video intended viewers to believe that this was a live beheading, and that is clearly false, it calls into question every aspect of the video.

I think that the blogger has some good ideas about this. Berg certainly looks very relaxed in the opening scenes.
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