My Response to Inhofe's Torture Rationalizing, check my facts

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"First of all, I regret I wasn't here on Friday. I was unable to be here but maybe it's better that I wasn't because as I watch this outrage -- this outrage everyone seems to have about the treatment of these prisoners -- I have to say, and I'm probably not the only one up at this table that is more outraged by the outrage than we are by the treatment."

"The idea that these prisoners -- you know, they're not there for traffic violations. If they're in cell block 1A or 1B, these prisoners -- they're murderers, they're terrorists, they're insurgents. Many of them probably have American blood on their hands. And here we're so concerned about the treatment of those individuals." Sen. Inhofe

My response (let me know if any of it is not accurate):

Many of the Detainees at Abu Ghraib were let go. That is right, they let many of them go free. Why would they just let them go, if they were terrorists? Additionally, not all of the prisoners at 1A/1B were in that classification. Not all who were abused were in the classification Inhofe cited. And it doesn't even matter what they are in custody for or if they were guilty of the various types of charges. Abuse and torture (i.e. sodomy with a chemical light, ordering Muslims to curse Allah and thank Jesus, forcing them to stand beaten, naked, wires on their genitals, with bags over their heads, etc.) is never justified, certainly not by the presumption of guilt, and also not by guilt itself. It is not justified by our own laws or the international laws the President's lawyer feels is close to "obsolete" and the President policy has rendered actually obsolete in Guantanamo. If we agree with the spirit of the Geneva Conventions, why would it be necessary to avoid it (i.e. classification of "enemy combatant")? Incidentally, that same General that was in charge there was sent to Abu Ghraib. The policy of sexual humiliation of Arabic prisoners as a suggested use for interrogations also did not start with a few privates and MPs in 2004. There is more than enough reason to highly suspect that such treatment was influenced by policy.

Abuse leading to death and sodomy of individuals in our own prisons (yes, there are more than one now, Inhofe may have to gradually increase his "it was only just, 6, 7, ..." number weekly) is less insulting than our outrage over it??? The context of Inhofe's comments are more damning than the papers selective quoting of him. The minimizing and rationalizing of US crimes against people is more outrageous than the actual treatment, mostly because they were the very rationalizations that made such behavior actionable in the first place.

[physioex]

1. WARNING.....

Trying to rationalize on an intellectual level maybe pointless. Let's face it, El Drugbo, Hannity and Inough are reading from the same Q-cards from the Walrus Karl Rove..

[usregimechange]

3. Someone needs to explain this to the public. nt

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2. My GOP step mom sent this e-mail that...

was critical of a papers quoting of Inhofe. More of the poor us we are beaten by the liberal media BS we had better start spewing every chance we got as well. i.e. the "conservative media" Say it everytime you fu***ing say media.

[ngGale]

4. Hannity is going down for the third time and...

at times I think he is going to lose it all together. I always knew even though he is stupid and Bushed out, he did believe he was right.
Don't know what to think of him anymore. He is like a drowning man, trying to rationalize the acts of his hero's. So immersed as not to want to see the truth and fighting it all the way. He needs a trip to Iraq, maybe to see the prison and do some filming.

[thecrow]

5. It makes no sense

to argue with insanity.
These people like Inhofe have lost all humanity plain and simple.

It was obscene watching those hearings when all the Rpublicans did was grandstand their "patriotism" and "support our brave fighting forces who can do no wrong because they're Muricans" and accuse the Democrats of "politicizing the events" and then use the rest of their 5 seconds to ask some benign question or praise the person on the hot seat.

I didn't hear *one* Democrat do anything but ask simple questions to which they got no answer.

These people are insane.
To try to make sense of what they say and do of course will make you feel insane, too. There is no sense in what they say, because it is ALL nonsense!!!
Select a madman, get insanity.
Vote Kerry 2004....end this madness!!!