Is 'Did the training wheels fall off?' Presidential?

[turiya]

I am just curious since the excuse for Kerry saying not to criticize bush on Iraq was so he can appear Presidential.
Anyone got any new spin for why Kerry isn't talking about Iraq?

[No2W2004]

1. Because,

He's letting the Shrubistas dig their own grave.

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[turiya]

10. because I want the troops out?

I didn't know that was a trait.

[LoZoccolo]

35. Oops.

What's wrong with me lately?

[LittleApple81]

I think this comment is wonderful. A repug line of attack has been

that he is boring and has no sense of humor. This line made me laugh..ergo: he does have a sense of humor.
And HE LOOKS AND SPEAKS PRESENTIAL. That has never been the question in my mind. Is Bush presidential?

[Borknagar]

8. WHAT?

Is Bush humorous (intentionally)?

[LittleApple81]

13. No. He is depressing and horribly twisted. But the corporate press

looking for pretexts to dislike Kerry refer to his lacking a sense of humor.

[lanparty]

46. He may "look it"

If horrible grammar and an inability to complete sentences without rambling into ANOTHER incomplete sentence is presidential ... Then Bush is VERY presidential.

TRANSLATION FOR DON ARBUSTO ...

Presidents must speak with ... ehh .. ehhh ..eehh. They have to get stuff off their mind without ... ehhh ... ehhh ... ehhh ... I get to the farm without falling off my horse. See, I'm a WAR president. ehhh, ehhh ..... Where am I????

[NMDemDist2]

3. Presidents should make jokes and that was a knee slapper lol n/t

[onecitizen]

4. Buh-bye

`

[kentuck]

5. Very presidential...

It shows how quick he is on his feet and is a direct response to Bush's comment about "it's time to take the training wheels off for Iraq"... :)

[TheWebHead]

6. if he said it during a presidential debate no...

if he joked about it on the campaign tour bus, who cares...

irony:
http://www.bikesagainstbush.com/

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[w13rd0]

9. Who gives a fuck...

...it's funny as hell, and shows more knowledge of current events and stupid things Chimp says than Chimp seems to demonstrate in the world around him. Kerry SAYING he isn't talking about Iraq to appear Presidential IS being Presidential, since there's no need to criticize Bush on Iraq. Hell, the dumbass is doing a speech, FINALLY revealing the lucky winner of "Who Wants to Rule Iraq"...or is he? The suspense is killing me? I can't WAIT to see who takes the handlebars when the training wheels come off the brown peoples democracy </sarcasm>

[dogman]

11. Why talk about Iraq?

The solution is obvious, Remove Bush! That is what Kerry is all about, all the time.

[turiya]

14. why talk about the most important issue?

are you serious?

[dogman]

24. Talk will not accomplish anything.

He has said what there is to be said. He is criticized for his plans because Bush is trying to do these things. The problem is not the strategy at this point. The problem is Bush and the respect he has lost throughout the world. When Kerry suggested there were world leaders who would work with him all that was given in response was "Who?".

[hexola]

34. Kerry didn't want to start a revolution...

Bush is on the ropes...people are pissed. Kerry has to walk a fine line...

Bush is weak - that's great for US politics - but shitty for all of us from an international perspective.

Kerry is trying to avoid weakening Bush too much...He can't totally destroy Bush's credibility with out hurting US reputation abroad...

He's not going to do to Bush what the Republicans did to Clinton over Monica Lewinski...the strength and pride of the nation is too important to sacrafice it for petty politics...

The recent news from Iraq...speaks for itself...

[Rowdyboy]

12. Why should Kerry comment on Iraq while Bush is busy self-destructing?

He should do exactly what he's doing.

[turiya]

17. yeah you are right

bush is finished.
Now we need to know what the next President is going to do.

[Rowdyboy]

29. He's got all summer and early fall to fill us in....

Its really early and the longer Kerry waits to launch his full anti-Bush attack on Iraq, the more ammunition he'll have available. Most people really aren't engaged yet anyway.

Not suggesting he wait until the convention, just that he keep a low profile until we see just how enormous this boondoggle is. We'll know much more in a few weeks as news keeps dribbling out.

Cheney has his finger in the dike, but the tides coming in and the ocean is going to wash their filth away. I'm really beginning to believe that, perhaps for the first time .

[hexola]

37. Kerry spells out plan to internationalize rebuilding of Iraq

Perhaps you missed the "Moment of Truth" speech...

FULTON, Mo. - (KRT) - Sen. John Kerry declared Friday that Iraq and the United States face "a moment of truth" as they seek to rebuild the violence-wracked country, while President Bush insisted from the White House that "we're making progress."

Kerry, fleshing out his calls to internationalize the rebuilding of Iraq, urged that an international "high commissioner" be named and that NATO play a significant part in security and reconstruction. He also called for France, Russia, China and Britain to take on major roles.

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/special_packages/election2004/8562326.htm?1c

[ibegurpard]

15. Wait a minute... did Kerry say that??!!

Bwahahahahaha!
:thumbsup: if he did.

[turiya]

18. I agree

it was a great thing for Kerry to say.
It proves he can fight on a personal level.
Now lets see him fight bush on a political level.

[Borknagar]

16. well

Was it Presidential for Bush to say "Bring 'em on" or "We'll smoke 'em outta their holes" or "the brown people" or "errr, ummm, uhhh, errr?"

[kentuck]

20. Welcome Borknagar !

Good one! :)

[glitch]

26. Or lucky me, I hit the trifecta! re 911

and welcome to DU!

[hexola]

19. I dont see what one has to do with the other...?

This has nothing to do with Iraq...unless Bush was taking a ride in Baghdad...

[turiya]

21. "being presidential" was the subject

Now I know, anything Kerry does will be considered "being presidential" around here because he must be a god or something.

[Delano]

27. Bush fell off his bike like his usual idiot self

- just like with the segway last year. Kerry made a cute joke about it. What bearing that has on his "presidentialness" is beyond me...

[ibegurpard]

28. It's more than a cute joke.

It's also a direct response to Bush's unbelievably crass comments about the new Iraqi government and "training wheels."

[Vickers]

30. *BUZZZZZZ* Wrong answer! We don't require our candidates to be God-like!

But hey, you knew that.







Right?

[hexola]

31. Yes, Kerry is a God...

First of all - it's wrong to characterize it as an excuse. It was not an "excuse"

...anything Kerry does will be considered "being presidential" around here because he must be a god or something...

In case you haven't noticed - John Kerry is the (presumtive) Democratic nominee for Presidential Candidate...so yes, we will consider anything he does to be presidential. That is how politics works and how elections are won...It's called supporting the candidate.

[KC21304]

32. No, Kerry is very human.

Bush is the annointed one and woe be to any who criticizes or makes fun of him. They will be called unpatriotic and evil doers.

[catzies]

41. Wow, it's not like you speak in absolutes or anything. Welcome to DU.

Enjoy your stay.

[tishaLA]

44. "a god or something"?

no. not really. Human, All Too Human.

[MikeG]

22. What's worse. Joking about a fall off a bike or Joking about no WMD's

when nearly 800 brave Americans have died because of it.

[seabeyond]

23. i'zzzz teasing with a huge smile

i took a spill a week prior big deal. and leave it at that. a funny nothing more

[Delano]

25. Someone can't make a joke and still be presidential?

Whatever. First people call him boring, and "Lurch", then when he says the "F" word and makes a little joke, he's not presidential?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

At least Kerry's joke is FUNNY, unlike the bizarre, incomprehensible "jokes" Bush is always throwing out!

[Sparkly]

33. Um, Kerry proposed a plan for exiting Iraq

Do you want him to propose a plan for staying on a bicycle, just to be consistent?

[LoZoccolo]

36. Yes.

Because he is going to be the president!

:party: :toast: :party: :toast: :party: :toast: :party: :toast:

[hexola]

38. The Moment of Truth - April 30, 2004, Fulton, Missouri

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/special_packages/election2004/8562326.htm?1c

FULTON, Mo. - (KRT) - Sen. John Kerry declared Friday that Iraq and the United States face "a moment of truth" as they seek to rebuild the violence-wracked country, while President Bush insisted from the White House that "we're making progress."

Kerry, fleshing out his calls to internationalize the rebuilding of Iraq, urged that an international "high commissioner" be named and that NATO play a significant part in security and reconstruction. He also called for France, Russia, China and Britain to take on major roles.

[Kinkistyle]

39. It might have something to do with what Bush said last week.

From this article: Bush: Iraqis ready to "take the training wheels off" and take political power

[hexola]

40. So it was actually a sly comment on his expectations of Bush's Iraq plan

Just shows how clever Kerry is...a quick wit!!!

[VolcanoJen]

42. Bush could use some training wheels his damned self

Bush Suffers Minor Abrasions in Fall from Bicycle

[Nlighten1]

43. Maybe not but it sure as hell is FUNNY!

ROTFLMAO

[Catherine Vincent]

45. OMG!

Did John Kerry say that about Bush?!?!?!

hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

[July]

47. Reported by Drudge. Suspend belief until confirmed by real newspeople.

But if Kerry did say it, so what? If someone asked him (or told him) about the fall off the bike, so what if he commented on it? Apparently, he must talk about Iraq all the time now, is that it? And what's up with "spin"?

[Stuckinthebush]

48. Hasn't Bush seriously lowered the bar on what is "presidential"?

I don't think Kerry's humorous statement is any worse than most of Bush's silliness.