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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 09:02 AM Original message |
“I was wrong. I apologize. Now let’s move on.” - A Speech for John Kerry |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. He's already said he was wrong and apologized. He doesn't need... |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
92. When? Where? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #92 |
106. Here. There. Got link |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
110. I haven't seen him apologize. It looks as if he's avoided that. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 03:10 PM Original message |
here it is again |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
121. Why should kerry apologize for being LIED TO? BUSH should apologize and |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
2. A lot of people had the same position as John Kerry |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. fallacy ad populum |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. exactly, wipe the slate clean! |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
45. kick |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. I disagree with Epstein's premise |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
4. Epstein is VAIN and STUPID. He doesn't UNDERSTAND that Kerry's vote |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. that would be a good argument` |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Semantics. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 10:56 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. As a Senator, you're SUPPOSED to trust a president to implement |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. blm...that is a bit disingenuous |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 05:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
56. So did Biden-Lugar, yet look at all the devoted Dean supporters |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 03:27 AM Response to Reply #56 |
84. Didn't say he was...just real silent on an issue that is |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 03:28 AM Response to Reply #56 |
85. You should just change your nic to Biden-Luger |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 03:09 PM Response to Reply #85 |
111. If the same old weren't singing the same old, then |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-04 11:00 AM Response to Reply #111 |
122. lighten up Gunga Din |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. same here.... |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. As a Senator, you are SUPPOSED to use common sense. |
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JHBowden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Kerry didn't vote for the war though. |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Again...the argument that it was only for "last resort" |
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JHBowden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Consequence or Right? |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Framing the debate your way... |
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JHBowden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
68. Bread and Butter philosophy, my friend. |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 07:51 AM Response to Reply #68 |
88. Please explain something for me. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. then those who supported afghanistan war should apologize also |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
47. Kerry was just plain covering his |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. How was Kerry supposed to justify all of that publically? |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
76. How? |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #76 |
97. Those 23 Dems were not all knowing. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 11:09 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. No, Kerry didn't launch a pre-emptive war |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Well, then riddle me this... |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
77. he's being pilloried |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 10:00 AM Response to Reply #77 |
89. And... |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. No, your statements are dubious and intellectually dishonest |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #91 |
102. Al Gore wasn't doomed because of the press.. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. I really sick of your crap |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 03:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
112. No,No,NO |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
29. Except that it let Bush launch the war... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 05:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. Which he could have done WITHOUT a resolution. |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
5. This thread will bring out the venom. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Does that mean denying them a vote? Then Congress is solid Republican |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. 95 to 3 says you are wrong. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. How do you purge these people? |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:39 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. There are no easy answers but... |
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JHBowden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Your work is pretty much worthless |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. And who's fault will it be if Bush does? |
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JHBowden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. You have no idea how to get Democrats elected. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:55 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. yup, look at where Barbara Boxer got elected |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. "Public pledges of ideological purity " |
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JHBowden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. The Illinois GOP destroys itself for this reason. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. "they will be replaced by Republicans" |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. I agree 100% |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:19 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Again, if you 'vote them out,' Republicans will fill that vacuum |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 02:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. Does it matter if Republicans fill the vacuum? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 05:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. YOU aren't the one going in front of the American people |
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greatauntoftriplets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 06:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. I never trusted numbnuts. NEVER!!!! |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 06:33 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Neither did I. But, Kerry is in a position that NOONE else is in. |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 01:05 AM Response to Reply #64 |
83. Bold times...demand bold actions blm. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #83 |
114. YOU don't want Kerry to win....FINE. Go enjoy your life. |
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greatauntoftriplets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 06:34 AM Response to Reply #64 |
87. What does that have to do with the fact his IWR vote was.... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 03:13 PM Response to Reply #87 |
113. I don't buy your assessment. Kerry consistently believed that Saddam |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
7. Epstein to Kerry -- Pander to me, even if you lose the election |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
11. Bullshit. Can I have a president who was smart enough not to have been |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. What a surprise! Kerry gives convoluted pol-like speeches! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 05:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
52. Deleted message |
Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 05:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
57. So Jp... kerry & Political Expediency |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 06:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Kerry ALREADY APOLOGIZED FOR TRUSTING BUSH to use war as a last resort. |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Kucinich has NOTHING to do with this thread. Unlike Kerry he did not shill |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
116. The standards are different aren't they? |
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rhite5 (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 07:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. Tinoire, THANK YOU! |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 09:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
74. This is about who would be the better president, not who is pure |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 10:29 AM Response to Reply #74 |
90. It isn't about idealogical purity either... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Are you saying "get rid" of Kerry? |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 11:05 AM Response to Reply #95 |
98. If he is a Bush enabler... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. But Kerry was instrumental in uncovering Iran-Contra, wasn't he? |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Maybe not at this point and time... |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #74 |
104. That deserves a toast |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
36. well done-- |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
61. I do not forget those moments either! |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:39 PM Response to Reply #61 |
79. Thank you, Tinoire |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. Tinoire: |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 02:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Exactly. |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
62. Q. I agree with you. I am just VERY angry. |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
105. I wake up angry, go to bed tired and wonder through the day |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. Excellent post Tinoire |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 06:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
63. Bush is just one of the 7 heads of the Hydra |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 08:04 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Maybe... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 05:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
55. Geez...and all those who said Kucinich was nuancing abortion and aligns |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. What the hell does that have to do with anything? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #65 |
115. Because Kucinich is yopur standard so that is the proper standard |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
78. Touche, Tinoire |
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JHBowden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
13. The insanos will never accept an apology. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 08:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
119. That is not an apology. That's an excuse. nt |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
32. Don't hate the playa, hate the game. |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
40. How about a Bush apology for deceiving Congress, and the World? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
43. Apologize? Nah, he'll get the troops kinda out in only 4 years. |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Hey, that's peanuts as far as military occupations go. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Are peanuts the same as collateral damage? |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. That seems to be our situation. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 12:08 AM Response to Reply #51 |
81. What's so "realistic" about staying there and killing people? |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #81 |
93. Because we don't know what will happen to Iraq. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
44. Why are we talking about the past, when it's our future that is at stake? |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
58. This is a non-issue.....Jeeeez |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. It doesn't seem to be a 'non issue' to many, many voters... |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. If dwelling on why we're there would have one iota of impetus to get us |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 07:59 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. My 'sensibilities'? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 08:19 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Your statement doesn't wash with mine, Q- |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 11:47 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. The quoted article says Kerry should apologize... |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-22-04 09:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. IMO this is the key: |
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John_H (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
82. LOL!!! Yeaaagrrhhgghhhereeehhhaahh!!!!!! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 03:33 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. geez |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
94. Bad advice. Period. |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
96. Kerry can't credibly say, "I should have known," because he did know. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #96 |
107. I'll take Kerry's word over "Common Dreams" any day |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Thanks for posting the info... |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #107 |
120. Well |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #96 |
117. It's a good point. |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
109. Good speech. It will win him votes and the election. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-23-04 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
118. Kerry needs to tell the TRUTH- there are still too many lies in that |
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