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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:29 PM
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Gore Vidal's new book "Imperial America" mentions BBV
Andy has had several conversions with Vidal regarding BBV and was told it would be included in this book. Vidal as always has delivered.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1560255854/qid=1085199220/sr=2-...

Book Description

Following the publication of Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace and Dreaming War, Gore Vidal was described as the last 'noble defender" of the American republic. Now, in the long-awaited conclusion to his bestselling trilogy, Vidal has written his most devastating exploration of Imperial America to date. "Not since the 1846 attack on Mexico in order to seize California" Vidal writes, "has an American government been so nakedly predatory."

Bush's apparent invincibility, and what he might or might not know -- especially about those new "black box" voting machines being installed all over the country -- is one of the central themes of "State of the Union 2004," a magnificent and witty Olympian survey of American Empire, where the war on terror is judged as nonsensical as the "war on dandruff," where America is a "Enron-Pentagon prison," a land of ballooning budget deficits thanks to the growth of a garrison state, tax cuts for the privileged, and the creeping totalitarianism of the Ashcroft justice department.

Collected in this volume are Vidal's earlier State of the Union addresses, a tradition inaugurated on the David Susskind's show in the early seventies as a counterpoint to "whoever happened to be president."
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:33 PM
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1. He was interviewed this morning on Democracy Now Pacifica Radio
Edited on Fri May-21-04 11:34 PM by proud patriot
Great interview . I'm so glad he came back to the U.S.
I'm only 35 and his coming back to fight the good
fight is a gift to all of us .

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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:35 PM
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2. I adore Gore!
I really do...I love conversing with him. He is quite charming!
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:43 PM
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6. ANDY, I envy you to no end.
Edited on Fri May-21-04 11:52 PM by BEFOREATHOUGHT
Before Vidal I felt history was an unattractive piece of broccoli at the dinner table. After Vidal I have found no Intellectual meal complete without it.

I’m half way done with “Julian” and will stop to read his reflections of our “United states of Amnesia”


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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:49 PM
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7. Hey...I can hardly believe I met and now talk to him.
I have loved him since I was a kid...I literally have had a crush on him since I was like 15.

I get tounge tied when talking to him and sometimes get weak. I can tell you though...to hear him use the word "fuck" is amazing and disconcerting at the same time.

:)
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:15 AM
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10. Did you see the PBS American Masters show on Vidal ?
Edited on Sat May-22-04 12:26 AM by BEFOREATHOUGHT
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/vidal_g.html

PBS does not have the special for sale:shrug:
Ask whom he now considers as his heir since he has disowned Christopher hitchens. The author of “Why Orwell matters” has swallowed the White Houses Orwellian rhetoric for this war… Oh the irony…

Tell him that he is my favorite author I’m 24.
CS (me) says Thank you for making me feel like a fly on the wall while I read your words.

I have read
Perpetual war for perpetual peace
Dreaming war
The last Empire
Creation
Half way done w/ Julian
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:18 AM
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11. you should real Palimpsest
the 1st half of his life. Wow! What a life he has had.
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:36 PM
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3. DEM NOW site is down GRRRRRRRR
I missed the show today. I need my Vidal fix.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:38 PM
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4. I will call him in the morning...
and tell him :hi: for you.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:38 PM
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5. here try this
links to todays streaming on the righthand side
near the top

http://www.pacifica.org/

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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:05 AM
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8. BBV.ORG site also down
for at least the last half hour it seems. Hopefully it is just temporary.

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:06 AM
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9. Holy SHIT!
WTF is that about???
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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:43 PM
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25. It's been back up, but down again this afternoon.
Edited on Sat May-22-04 02:05 PM by Bushfire
Hopefully it was a surge in page views that overloaded its server due to high demand for purchasing her book, and donating to the cause.

on edit: BBV.org back up again. :wtf:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:21 AM
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12. You can download it at archive.org. n/t
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:24 AM
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13. already done
thanks!
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:29 AM
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15. Download what? are you talking about the PBS special ?
I dont see it their :shrug:
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:38 AM
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21. the Democracy Now
segment.

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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:25 AM
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14. Can you find his talk here in seattle?
in January?

I have lost it and need it back.

I am a good googler but cannot find it.

Help

he was at Mc Caw Hall in Seattle...at a foolproof production.


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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:29 AM
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16. Don't have that, but if you find it please post a link.
I love Vidal--best essayist ever. Have you read "Pink Triangle and Yellow Star"?
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:32 AM
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17. No but I am sure I should
if it means what I think it does.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:33 AM
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18. It's a delicious attack on the neocons,
Edited on Sat May-22-04 12:37 AM by QC
written years before they became such a public menace. He has been attacking Midge Decter and Norman Podhoretz for years, and apparently enjoying every minute of it.

On edit: Here's a great job at Midge:

Mrs. Norman Podhoretz, also known as Midge Decter, …. writes with the authority and easy confidence of someone who knows that she is very well known indeed to those few who know her.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:35 AM
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19. Operation
"paperclip"
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:36 AM
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20. There is a new 2-cd set of Gore Vidal from Pacifica radio
It is advertised on the back of the Nation May 10.2004 available for a 25$ donation to New York WBAI. I'm unemployed but will try to find an extra 25$. "GORE VIDAL speaks heresy" (and backs it up) a 2-cd set.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:40 AM
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22. Gore Vidal in Seattle!
Awesome and worth listening to.

http://www.kuow.org/defaultProgram.asp?ID=6381
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:01 PM
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23. Kick
:kick:
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:39 PM
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24. One last kick for VIDAL fans-nt
.
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